Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

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Dumb Bitch Smoothie dijo:
It makes sense that variants are becoming more out of control in areas with high vaccination rates. The virus would have to mutate more aggressively to stay alive and spread. There is a direct correlation, and vaccinations aren't going to stop it.
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Literally the crux of the last Viral Evolution study (found in the OP)
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Just as @Mr Bunny had mentioned about A.30

Let's also not forget the previous Viral Evolution study (also in OP):
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This factors into the Omicron and vaccine issue directly. Again, the science is there for people who want to read it but sadly many don't, particularly those who have both study and influence in this field. (Edit: I mean in terms of those who have direct influence of mandates, research and vaccine development)
 
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The Austrian Government just announced punishments for refusing to get the vaccine by February 2022

Its totally about the virus guys! No other motives!

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This is all Pomp, don't worry about it, with regards to the forced vaccines and lockdowns for the "refuseniks", the Austrian police have come out and said they will not enforce this.
I was also in France recently, before going I was very nervous because of all of the news from there, but when I got there I was so relieved to see that while these rules exist, nobody adheres to them.
The only business that require the Nazipass are big box stores that have the infrastructure to profit from your data, Ethnic foodmarkets and Mom and Pop shops couldn't give a fuck... same with "express" locations of larger supermarket chains.

Edit - The current Austrian government is a failed coalition between the conservative semi-euroskeptics, the Greens (boo) and... well I can't remember who else, but they aren't important. The Greens recently ousted the majority party from the coalition based on minor fraud, so the government in power doesn't have such a mandate from the population to actually enact this crap. it's all for show.
 
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renée remains insane dijo:
The only business that require the Nazipass are big box stores that have the infrastructure to profit from your data, Ethnic foodmarkets and Mom and Pop shops couldn't give a fuck... same with "express" locations of larger supermarket chains.
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Same thing in America actually. Thankfully the universality of apathy goes two ways, one for allowing draconian insanity to arise and the other for getting tired of having to adhere to it. We've had the first for over a year. Now we're getting the latter.
Well...mostly. Employment is still a major issue because asinine madness for enforcing employees to vax or lose their essentially lose everything. Also Canada and Australia still seem hellbent on heralding their fascism for greatness even in the smaller parts of their country--although I've heard Aussies also have a less insane other half or something.
 
EyelessMC dijo:
Same thing in America actually. Thankfully the universality of apathy goes two ways, one for allowing draconian insanity to arise and the other for getting tired of having to adhere to it. We've had the first for over a year. Now we're getting the latter.
Well...mostly. Employment is still a major issue because asinine madness for enforcing employees to vax or lose their essentially lose everything. Also Canada and Australia still seem hellbent on heralding their fascism for greatness even in the smaller parts of their country--although I've heard Aussies also have a less insane other half or something.
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I think population density plays a big role. I have heard that in Ireland businesses were getting flooded with taxpayer money to stay closed, so when they opened the owners felt compelled to enact the draconian measures. This could also have happened in Australia and Canada. The same is true in some other bigger countries like Germany, but Germany is one of the engines of whatever this nonsense is; plus they have turned Greece into what is essentially an economic slave state, so they have a lot of cash to throw around.

Aside from the stimulus cheques, the US isn't really a welfare state and that money is much better spent on Gender Studies classes in Pakistan... so you were allowed keep some of your liberties.
 
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=CAhgsnu7geM
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EyelessMC dijo:
Archive:
Virus spike vs vaccine spike - COVID-19 mRNA vaccines update 20.mp4
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Heh heh. Homo-trimer.
On the wild spike protein:
  • Imagine it like a snake with two heads. One head is the "terminal domain" the other is the "receptor binding domain". The receptor-binding domain is the one that attaches to ACE2 receptors
  • Spike protein has a form when it's just chilling and another it takes when it fuses with a cell. Same for the receptor-binding domain; it can be open or closed like a flower.
  • There are three of these in the spike protein, so it can bind to three receptors at once. When this happens, it gets pulled open and our own body then cuts the spike protein's head off.
  • This is important because the head is interacting with the ACE2 receptors all on its own.
  • With the head removed in the trunk of the spike protein unfolds to allow a bundle of "tentacles" out. These arms grab into (spelling intentional) the cell wall and pull the virus in until the virus and cell fuse together.
On the vaccine spike proteins, there are two key differences. First:
  • Two amino acids are switched. This "locks" the arms in the trunk so they can't spill out after the head gets chopped off.
  • The issue with the vaccine is that we're just assuming the head-ripping part and the detached heads/locked trunk are inert. As we learn more, it may turn out this isn't the case.
Second:
  • The mrna-instructed spike proteins made by our body are "decorated" with sugars. We still don't know if those sugars are the same sugars that appear on the wild-COVID-spike-proteins.

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The Austrian Government just announced punishments for refusing to get the vaccine by February 2022

Its totally about the virus guys! No other motives!

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The phrase "'Punishable by a fine' means 'legal for the rich.'" comes to mind.
 
Brain Problems dijo:
Can you elaborate on this? It's definitely one of the statistics thrown around constantly everywhere I look.
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1) It can be manipulated by adding/removing ICU beds, ward space and staffing. For example if a hospital has room for 200 beds, but is only using 100 of them, then having 90 patients will cause "90% full!" headlines rather than 45% full total possible capacity.
I'm not as well versed on how & why they would do this, so you'll have to get someone in the medical field to explain it.

2) ICU capacity on its own doesn't measure who is in there for COVID versus other reasons, even "ICU COVID cases" in the US were fraught with shit like car crash & gunshot victims.

3) ICU capacity on its own also means nothing unless you know % of total infections at the time.
If 100 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU, its pretty fucking serious.
If 1000 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU. its much less serious.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist dijo:
1) It can be manipulated by adding/removing ICU beds, ward space and staffing. For example if a hospital has room for 200 beds, but is only using 100 of them, then having 90 patients will cause "90% full!" headlines rather than 45% full total possible capacity.
I'm not as well versed on how & why they would do this, so you'll have to get someone in the medical field to explain it.

2) ICU capacity on its own doesn't measure who is in there for COVID versus other reasons, even "ICU COVID cases" in the US were fraught with shit like car crash & gunshot victims.

3) ICU capacity on its own also means nothing unless you know % of total infections at the time.
If 100 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU, its pretty fucking serious.
If 1000 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU. its much less serious.
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You forgot to mention the 4th thing, which is that ICUs aren't profitable if they're run below ~70% capacity. In almost every hospital, ICUs are run near their breaking point with a small number (maybe 10%) of beds unfilled and this is considered normal use. If too many patients arrive, the less injured are triaged and moved out of the ICU, but generally hospitals want them as full as possible or they're wasting money on the 24/7 staffing.
 
Fanatical Pragmatist dijo:
1) It can be manipulated by adding/removing ICU beds, ward space and staffing. For example if a hospital has room for 200 beds, but is only using 100 of them, then having 90 patients will cause "90% full!" headlines rather than 45% full total possible capacity.
I'm not as well versed on how & why they would do this, so you'll have to get someone in the medical field to explain it.

2) ICU capacity on its own doesn't measure who is in there for COVID versus other reasons, even "ICU COVID cases" in the US were fraught with shit like car crash & gunshot victims.

3) ICU capacity on its own also means nothing unless you know % of total infections at the time.
If 100 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU, its pretty fucking serious.
If 1000 people catch a disease and 70 of them end up in the ICU. its much less serious.
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Oh wow, I was living in Germany during the "first wave" and towards the end the government actually began removing ICU beds, which seemed bizarre.
 
NoReturn dijo:
Heh heh. Homo-trimer.
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lol Nice.
Great explanation. I tried putting it to visuals just for fun.
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Goes to show for the umpteenth time that rushing scientific study, especially in viral study and vaccine development, will leave incomparably broad gaps in understanding which can become pitfalls to dangerous consequences.

Jimjamflimflam dijo:
Well another couple I know who are both vaccinated has tested positive for covid. Seems like everyone i know who is vaccinated is getting breakthrough cases.
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That's terrible to hear. Do you know which vaccines they got? Did they try combining vaccinations as was sugested to be potentially more effective?
 
Shaka Brah dijo:
You forgot to mention the 4th thing, which is that ICUs aren't profitable if they're run below ~70% capacity. In almost every hospital, ICUs are run near their breaking point with a small number (maybe 10%) of beds unfilled and this is considered normal use. If too many patients arrive, the less injured are triaged and moved out of the ICU, but generally hospitals want them as full as possible or they're wasting money on the 24/7 staffing.
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Kinda sounds like ICUs are small margin services if they require that kinda capacity to turn a profit. Airlines operate similarly, hence why trunk routes during peak points in the travel season are often oversold, with the expectation a small percentage of people miss their flights or are willing to take a later flight along with some airline travel voucher cash.
 
Car Won't Crank dijo:
Kinda sounds like ICUs are small margin services if they require that kinda capacity to turn a profit. Airlines operate similarly, hence why trunk routes during peak points in the travel season are often oversold, with the expectation a small percentage of people miss their flights or are willing to take a later flight along with some airline travel voucher cash.
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They're razor thin if they even make money at all.

The thing about them is they can't refuse anyone by law, and everyone has to get the same level of care. So Jamal Tichondrius who's sleeping rough because his crack house burned down goes to the ICU for his burns, alongside Jose Antonio who isn't supposed to be here, has no insurance, and will skip the bill anyway. Your kid who split his head open and needs to be seen ASAP is where they'll recoup the cost of the two indigents.

Basically they scrape by year over year by overcharging the few people who actually pay, and it's not sustainable without cramming those places full to maybe get the 1 or 2 people a night with actual insurance.
 
Australia really is in hell. "Fugitives" from a "Covid quarantine facility" are being hunted after they tried to leave after testing negative for COVID. Sorry goys, you can't leave re-education camp just because you're not sick. You might get sick outside and then what?!

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Teenagers from remote NT community in custody after escape from Howard Springs quarantine

The teenagers, aged 15, 16 and 17, from Binjari tested negative for the virus on Tuesday, but Chief Minister Michael Gunner says there will be consequences for the "dangerous and stupid" escape.
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