Zoomer Kiwi Central / Serious Gen Z Discussion - A place for Zoomers to have a discussion about the Gen Z and their future

How to tell if you are a Zoomer or Millennial: Are you below 30, and do you have memories of 9/11 or not? First OS I remember using was Windows XP as well.
I'm below 30, I don't remember 9/11 (but i do remember watching Dale Earnhardt die on TV which was 2001 too), First OS I had any exposure to was windows 95 in computer lab at school around 2005 or so. My first cell phone was an Iphone. I also remember payphones and pagers and dial up.

it sounds schizo but that's how it was where i grew up. we're perennially 20 years behind everyone else here way out in the sticks in the mountains. the county I live in wasn't fully electrified until the late 1970s!
 
Here’s how I think of it.
Boomers: The Satanic Generation, quite literally the embodiment of a multitude of sins that has effected the world negatively for generations.
Millennials/X: The Loser Generation, they had good opportunity but no guidance and so some did quite well and others didn’t.
Zoomers: The Sacrificial Generation, all the fuckups and kicking the can from the previous generations are coming to a head and now the Zoomers must be sacrificed so Boomers and Millennials/X can continue their gay retardation.
I think thats a little uncharitable
Boomers are the result of silent generation raising clashing and melding of post war modernity. Boomers seem too often to be perceived outside of their paradigm. Yes they did things disregarding consequences, it was the new modernity, consequences did not exist anymore. Arrogant? Maybe, but that was the cultural paradigm of the time. This of course does not excuse any of that, nor their behavior after the fact, but calling them "the satanic generation" is uncharitable. He who would act well in unimaginable prosperity, throw the first stone.
When Gen x came, they partook and grew in that prosperity that still remained (this was the 80s mind you), but saw the beginning of the decline, the first inklings of the consequences the boomers assumed would never come, and thusly are less reckless and more conservative (in lifestyle) than their boomer forebears. Most of them are at the height of their careers now. Many of them have done quite well, even if the world they were able to start life in wasn't quite what their parents had. Yet, they fail to see that things have worsened even more, because they were able to get theirs before it happened, and are thusly insulated from the world around them, almost disconnected. If the sin of the Boomers is greed and egotism, the sin of gen X is apathy and insulation.
The millennials were raised in a world where the last of that prosperity petered out right at or before they entered the workforce. They grew up with a rich childhood, but one that changed to feeling the greater consequences of boomer meddling. They saw 9/11, and experienced the pains of the financial crisis. They saw the prosperity disappear in real time during their adolescence. When they grew up, both because of college radicals and their childhood, they raged agaisnt the boomers. How dare their parents take away (in their view anyway) that great prosperity? How dare their parents take away their children's success? They had access to new tools like the internet, and became even more aggravated as those above them could not even use this most basic and powerful tool. Thus, they chose to subvert, maneuver, polticize, as a coping mechanism to strike back at what seemed like a rigged and unfair game, and indeed they succeeded, as we can see from the cultural paradigm we live in now. Yet, they never really built anything afterwards. They rammed through their "generation 1" mindset without regard for the consequences, much like their boomer parents. The sins of the millennials are the destruction of culture, and hypocrisy.

That brings it to us zoomers. We never saw the prosperity, only heard about it. We never really got to experience the great cultural touchstones, since the millenials had subverted and deconstructed all of them. Now every generation has said this after all, in the words of Tony Soprano
"It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came in too late for that, I know, but lately I've been feeling like I came in at the end, the best is over." Yet, this does feel like the hallmark of Gen z. Then before many of us even went to college, Covid happened, the world shut down for a year, taking for many of us a critical time in our adolescence, and forbidding any of us from socializing with eachother. Everything became hidden behind a screen, and that in of itself was incredibly destructive to young minds. Ask any zoomer, they'll tell you about at least one, if not several people they know that the covid shutdown changed, and how they never really recovered. Zoomers hide behind cynicism and irony, because there's no other way to engage in a world where there's nothing left.

TL;DR The boomers started the fire, Gen x didn't care to put it out, Millennials raged at the boomers, and tried to stop the fire by starting their own fire, and zoomers stand in the ashes of it all, unable to take anything seriously, because there is nothing left to take seriously
 
I'm below 30, I don't remember 9/11 (but i do remember watching Dale Earnhardt die on TV which was 2001 too), First OS I had any exposure to was windows 95 in computer lab at school around 2005 or so. My first cell phone was an Iphone. I also remember payphones and pagers and dial up.

it sounds schizo but that's how it was where i grew up. we're perennially 20 years behind everyone else here way out in the sticks in the mountains. the county I live in wasn't fully electrified until the late 1970s!
Honestly sounds based being a temporal fish out of water. Not that far back, but the 1800's were truly a better time.
 
Honestly sounds based being a temporal fish out of water. Not that far back, but the 1800's were truly a better time.
it has been said that the 19th century lasted well into the 20th here in the south.

My neighbor is 97, and other than having electricity and internet I grew up much the same as she did. A garden in the yard, drawing water from the well, digging coal for the stove direct from the seam on the mountain above our house, and canning our garden food to eat on all year along with what we can shoot in the woods.

Electricity is not 100% reliable here so we also keep oil lamps for lighting when it goes out. almost every time it rains or snows a tree falls and it might take more than a day before the lines can be re-strung. once we went the whole December without power and had to cook on our wood cooking stove.
 
Zoomers are more like Gen X in terms of personality, I feel. Both have similarly jaded views of life while Boomers and Millennials are the ones who cause issues given behavior patterns across most of the generation. Also it seems like there are more Millennials than Zoomers, obviously more Boomers than X.
Zoomers by and large are the children of Xers
 
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Zoomers by and large are the children of millennials.
How did you even come to that conclusion?
Also it seems like there are more Millennials than Zoomers, obviously more Boomers than X.
To me it's the other way round. One of my friends also said, there are more Zoomers than us simply because population was growing by each generation, so Zoomers greatly outnumber Millennials. That, and also the oldest Millennials are in their mid 40s, so I'm thinking not a small number of Millennials may or may not have already passed away, especially depending on the place and lifestyle.
 
How did you even come to that conclusion?

To me it's the other way round. One of my friends also said, there are more Zoomers than us simply because population was growing by each generation, so Zoomers greatly outnumber Millennials. That, and also the oldest Millennials are in their mid 40s, so I'm thinking not a small number of Millennials may or may not have already passed away, especially depending on the place and lifestyle.
Sorry made a typo, meant to say Xers
 
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Boomers will tell you those jobs were never meant to pay your rent then talk about how they afforded a house, car, college, and nights out at a bar while working pizza delivery as a young adult.
If you're complaining about how hard getting a job is, this is why.

If you are growing up as a White person in America, you are not allowed to have a country, not allowed to have a job, not allowed to have anything. Any luxury that this country could offer is reserved for the ungrateful shitskin parasites that pollute this country and offer it nothing but rape, murder and fraud.
 
If you're complaining about how hard getting a job is, this is why.

If you are growing up as a White person in America, you are not allowed to have a country, not allowed to have a job, not allowed to have anything. Any luxury that this country could offer is reserved for the ungrateful shitskin parasites that pollute this country and offer it nothing but rape, murder and fraud.
It's worse when you're a single adult trying to get ahead financially. Rent is becoming beyond expensive, don't get anything back from taxes despite paying over $10,000 into the system in federal, state, and FICA. Not having to pay any federal income tax at my income would literally fix numerous things for me. Luckily, I can save for 401k and HSA, but all that is making the day to day money tighter, and if I don't put money into those, my tax bracket could go up if I lower the contributions too much, and then I'd pay even more tax and not even see that money regardless.

The system hates us and doesn't want us to succeed.
 
A part of me hopes that AOC is democrat nominee for president next cycle so Vance can throw down the gauntlet and threaten companies to renationalize US workers on day one, or get their means of reproduction seized.
 
The bottom already starting the crumble more. Republicans don't have many opportunities left before they start to stare down the barrel of socialism if they can't fix the outlook for young people.
Problem is with Republicans is they are wanna-be aristocrats and so they use free-market to fuck everything by screwing over everyone who are not their yes-men. Not all Republicans, but many in charge. Democrats have just gone full out totalitarian with shit laws, open borders, trooning the kids, and racial diversity.

There's this belief for Republicans that they should be able to screw over anyone so long as it's for the betterment of "the free market," that being "line-must-go-up."

I've grown sick of both parties for various reasons.
 
"It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came in too late for that, I know, but lately I've been feeling like I came in at the end, the best is over." Yet, this does feel like the hallmark of Gen z. Then before many of us even went to college, Covid happened, the world shut down for a year, taking for many of us a critical time in our adolescence, and forbidding any of us from socializing with eachother. Everything became hidden behind a screen, and that in of itself was incredibly destructive to young minds. Ask any zoomer, they'll tell you about at least one, if not several people they know that the covid shutdown changed, and how they never really recovered. Zoomers hide behind cynicism and irony, because there's no other way to engage in a world where there's nothing left.
What are you talking about? The general. The oldest among us are nearly 30 years old. People think General Z starts in 2000 now it starts in the late 90s.
The economy in the late 90s was doing perfectly fine. It wasn't till 2008 that the economy went to shit.
And Oumuamua's graduated college. Years ago.

It's like people in Gen Z pretend that malls when they were a kid were dying. Malls really didn't start dying until like 2012. Ish.

And people confuse the late 90s and early 2000s with the early 90s and early 80s.

Everything started going downhill around 2008.
 
A part of me hopes that AOC is democrat nominee for president next cycle so Vance can throw down the gauntlet and threaten companies to renationalize US workers on day one, or get their means of reproduction seized.
Agreed. Once uh... that happens surely the senile pedophile party will finally snap out of it and become pro-American worker instead of just giving it lip service instead of just shitting all over themselves and getting raped in the elections

Not trying to politisperg but both parties average age is like 61.5 (house + senate) years old where the oldest DSA candidate is barely entering menopause don't actually quote me on that but the "oldest" ones ive seen like Francesca Hong in Wisconsin is 37
 
Any of the older Zs here feel completely invisible to society at times? I was having a conversation the other day with my mom and how I'm kinda pissed that my part of Z (late 90s and very early 00s) seems to be completely forgotten about at times. Like it feels that all mainstream talk was on Millennials and then suddenly Gen Z, but not the Gen Z that graduated high school in the mid to late 2010s.
I think we are kinda in a similar position as the very early Gen X'ers.

Who have more similarities with the later boomers rather than their own generation.

Like I said before, I think it's a problem with the generation categories spanning too long for each generation.
 
It's all foreigners and boomers at my local grocery store too. If I go to the nice, upscale grocery store that gives free cheese bread to the kids it's just boomers. I think one big issue with Zoomers and cooking is that we're often forced into little bugcaves or roommate situations that make it difficult to cook, since buying bulk staples and equipment/appliances is unwieldy for people cooking for 1 or 2 and storing it is not an option in a shared pantry-refrigerator.
Ok, I lived in a literal bug cave alone for a couple years and I still cooked almost all my meals. The fridge that came with the place was too small, and the attached freezer was especially pitiful, but walmart had a sale on minifridges for 100$ so i got one of those and put it on top of a table that i found on the side of the road, boom now there are 2 fridges. doing dishes was killing my will to live so i bought a countertop dishwasher for a few more hundred bucks. Suddenly life in the bugcave wasn't so bad anymore.
 
Ok, I lived in a literal bug cave alone for a couple years and I still cooked almost all my meals. The fridge that came with the place was too small, and the attached freezer was especially pitiful, but walmart had a sale on minifridges for 100$ so i got one of those and put it on top of a table that i found on the side of the road, boom now there are 2 fridges. doing dishes was killing my will to live so i bought a countertop dishwasher for a few more hundred bucks. Suddenly life in the bugcave wasn't so bad anymore.
As an early Gen Z Technically the earliest year you can be from Generation Z. The. Younger members of our generation are kinda dumb. When it comes to cooking.

Then again, I grew up in a very large family, so doing your laundry. And cooking were necessities, but I was surprised when I was in high school that a lot of people. In Gen Z could not cook a basic meal or do their own laundry. I met grown men who don't know how to do the fucking laundry.
But Gen Z were generally fucked economically. We're fucked by. Boomers and Gen X refusing. To give up any aspect of power. And yes, early Gen XS are just as bad as boomers.

And we're not teaming up with the millennials because they are fucking filled with fags.
 
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