Youtube/Internet Washouts

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Konstantinos dijo:
Huh, only eight pages? They have threads about him all the time on /cow/ and I thought that there must be something about him worth talking about. I guess he's just another fat, aging hackjob vidya critic. When you've seen one you've seen them all.
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It was only after getting his ass canned that he fully graduated to lolcow status. Before that he was just another fat fuck on the Internet bitching about stuff.
 
Hellsing920- a once popular ranter now faded into obscurity. Now does reaction videos.

RandomDCE- he used to be known for his Handy Dandy Guides and Ear Rape Coffee series. Used to be a well known ranter. does the same thing as Hellsing920 now.

Archfiend- Another ranter. Just not as relevant as he once used to be.

YTwatchdog- a guy who wears a dog mask and exposes youtube cheaters. I'm not sure if he still makes videos but he used to be big back in 2009/2010.

BlackBusterCritic- used to be known for his reviews and Sonic Brainfart series. Hasn't posted a video in a while mainly because he has a life outside of YouTube.

Basically the ranting community is dead or at least the old ranting community is dead.

Edit: oh yeah LifeinaTent- this guy was a fucking douchebag and pissed off a lot of people on YouTube before he was finally driven off and banned, but he keeps coming back. Probably warrants a thread here if he already doesn't have one already.
 
Not bringing up any specific people, because all the ones I know have already been listed, but I knew this trend was going to happen.

Maybe its the financially traditional (Get a job. Put as much as you can in the bank. Don't take risks. Etc.) worldview that was drilled into me for much of my youth, or maybe I'm just naturally cynical, but even in the glory days of reviewers, I remember thinking "This isn't going to last. This isn't a stable business model."

Roger Ebert criticizing movies was sustainable because he did it like an adult. There wasn't a gimmick to it. There will always be room for that, no matter how old you are.

I quite specifically remember saying to a friend of mine back in about 2011 or 2012 "Take these reviewer/youtube celebrity types. Do you think they are going to be doing that in their 60s?"

Four years later, it seems that was an enormously generous timeline.

I can only imagine how it feels to be in their shoes. Whenever something big in my relatively mundane life comes to an end, I feel a great sense of loss. What would that feel like when what is ending is fame, small scale as it may be. I think someone said one of the Walkers quit their job to work on their stuff full time? How is that going to feel, when the final nail is put into the coffin, to go back to traditional work, having been an Internet Celebrity?

So to me, it's not a question of if internet celebrities will end up washouts. It's a question of when.

If I wanted to be optimistic I'd say that they could be investing their profits wisely and laying a large nest age. That would surprise me though.

I feel it's far more likely that it's burning a hole in their pocket.

TL-DR - I don't have anyone new to add. But I'm entirely unsurprised that this is a thing that happens. Here's hoping most of the decent folks accept what is happening and let it occur, rather than becoming obviously dated and clinging to the past. Always creeps me out.

I admit, I was very interested to see what it'd look like for my generation.
 
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Daario Naharis dijo:
So to me, it's not a question of if internet celebrities will wash out. It's a question of when.
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See, I think it's more an issue of how one treats their "internet celebrity" status. It's not a stable career choice, and the people who quit their jobs to make YouTube videos full-time are setting themselves up for inevitable failure. They're not doing it to advance their agenda, this is their agenda, and the end goal is what makes all the difference.

Grace Helbig is the best example I can give of a successful internet celebrity. She spent a lot of time building her YouTube presence, but vlogging was not and has never been her career. Instead she used it as a way to build up a fanbase to further her real world goal of creating a legitimate career in the entertainment industry, and guess what? She's getting her own show on E! because years of hard work has finally paid off.

The only way to be a successful internet celebrity is to not have your entire livelihood revolve around your online persona. The internet is a great way to introduce yourself to a world-wide audience, but there's got to be some bigger goal you're working towards otherwise you're just another drop in the ocean.
 
Daario Naharis dijo:
So to me, it's not a question of if internet celebrities will end up washouts. It's a question of when.
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Agreed. I foresee a lot of the bigger names on Vine slipping into near-complete obscurity in the next couple of years. I don't really see anyone who's "famous" on Vine becoming a genuine A-list celebrity getting leading roles in movies or on television.

Or maybe they're just happy being on the fringe, content with small TV roles and a Twitter following of mostly teenage girls obsessively asking for retweets or to be followed back.
 
Can we add every Vlogger to the list?

I have literally nothing interesting to talk about except what happened on that one day that seemed funny in my head but no-one else found it funny nor could they relate to it...and I throw in random humor too because it will get a quick laugh. I am now a popular internet celebrity and get invitations to comic cons, premieres and tournaments.
 
Limpdick69 dijo:
Can we add every Vlogger to the list?

I have literally nothing interesting to talk about except what happened on that one day that seemed funny in my head but no-one else found it funny nor could they relate to it...and I throw in random humor too because it will get a quick laugh. I am now a popular internet celebrity and get invitations to comic cons, premieres and tournaments.
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Vloggers aren't really a thing anymore. I remember some. For example, there was ShayTards, who basically got rich and famous for uploading family home videos.
 
Daario Naharis dijo:
Roger Ebert criticizing movies was sustainable because he did it like an adult. There wasn't a gimmick to it. There will always be room for that, no matter how old you are.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YPAR4lu9eF0

I quite specifically remember saying to a friend of mine back in about 2011 or 2012 "Take these reviewer/youtube celebrity types. Do you think they are going to be doing that in their 60s?"

Four years later, it seems that was an enormously generous timeline.
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See, that's where firms like Red Letter Media don't drop the ball. They're very insightful about the films they review and they do it while providing humor and charm, much like the late Ebert did. The members of TGWG are fighting an uphill battle to stay popular, let alone relevant. They lack serious talent and they aren't able to compensate for it with dedication anymore.

They're a relic from a past era where any putz with a cheap camcorder could be a critic. TGWG are a collection of those putzes who capitalized on that trend. But as the internet becomes more sophisticated, the stubbornly old-fashioned ways that brought them fame have proven to be their downfall as well.

Their gimmick is up. Their card has been called. Like you said, its not a matter of "if" but "when" they stop being celebrities altogether.
 
IJustWantToSeeAttachments dijo:
See, I think it's more an issue of how one treats their "internet celebrity" status. It's not a stable career choice, and the people who quit their jobs to make YouTube videos full-time are setting themselves up for inevitable failure. They're not doing it to advance their agenda, this is their agenda, and the end goal is what makes all the difference.

Grace Helbig is the best example I can give of a successful internet celebrity. She spent a lot of time building her YouTube presence, but vlogging was not and has never been her career. Instead she used it as a way to build up a fanbase to further her real world goal of creating a legitimate career in the entertainment industry, and guess what? She's getting her own show on E! because years of hard work has finally paid off.

The only way to be a successful internet celebrity is to not have your entire livelihood revolve around your online persona. The internet is a great way to introduce yourself to a world-wide audience, but there's got to be some bigger goal you're working towards otherwise you're just another drop in the ocean.
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Agreed. Jimmy Tatro is now a working comedian. Freddie Wong works in movies. Issa Rae is working on a TV Show for HBO.

As for Let's Players, many of the long term ones don't see it as a long term career either. ProtonJon is actually a working developer. Slowbeef even said to live off Let's play is unsustainable. Chuggaaconroy is actually in school again. HCBailly is an engineer as well as Toegoff. The best friends Zaibatsu stayed as long as they have because all of them actually worked in games and can still get jobs.

I also agree a lot of these people put their eggs in one basket and just thought this would last. Not a lot of people don't realize YouTube is a stepping stone. I also think a lot of the listed washouts were not comedians, writers, or filmmakers in the slightest and they were not initially aspiring to be, so the novelty wears off really quick.
 
KFC dijo:
Vloggers aren't really a thing anymore. I remember some. For example, there was ShayTards, who basically got rich and famous for uploading family home videos.
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Is he even still around? He used to be really popular on YouTube, but I don't hear much about him anymore. I know Shane Dawson's still around, but he doesn't get anywhere near the views he used to. I heard he was in talks for a TV series, but that apparently never materialized.

Pinball Lizard dijo:
I admit I like some things about TGWTG. My favorite reviewer is Film Brain, for his knowledge on the production and technical aspects of the films he reviews; I'm unsure if he, like the RLM guys, has an actual background in the industry but at the very least he seems to know a lot more of the "how" of filmmaking than the average ranting critic.

Least favorite? That's easy. The effing Blockbuster Buster. He reviews bad sequels, remakes, and adaptations, and he talks about absolutely NOTHING except how they're not like the originals. There are a multitude of reasons a sequel or adaptation could be weaker than the original. He addresses none of them, instead nitpicking the differences between it and the original. Also at the end of each review, he literally destroys the DVD, which seems just plain mean to me. Also he apparently hates Lemony Snicket's books so he gets no respect from me.

Also not fond of Linkara. Whatever he's actually like in real life, I think his reviews have some serious pacing issues and his voice is annoying.
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I like FilmBrain's earlier reviews, but in his later ones he overacts too much. Like, have you noticed that he's got an extremely exaggerated manner of speaking in his later videos compared to his older ones where he talked like a normal person? Still, he's one of the best contributors on that site, in my opinion.
 
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Pinball Lizard dijo:
The effing Blockbuster Buster.
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