Younger Generations

[shutupman]

I tried to be an upstanding and outstanding example of my generation until my mid teens, when angst set in full-tilt.
So I guess I'm a bit (totally) biased, as I have a high moral expectation of people.
Funny to be saying that on this board, huh?

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

#YOLO #swag #lol #FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING HACKER YOU CAN SEE THROUGH WALLS
My generation in a nutshell.
Also, were there this many teen moms in the 80's and 90's?

Yes. They were often thrown out on the streets by their good Christian parents, if not killed outright.

Every generation would force the next to stop progressing and live exactly like their parents if they could.

What the hell are you talking about? Where are you from? The Salem Witch Trial era?

My mom was a teen mom in 1978 and nothing bad happened to her. Cite me the cases where it was common place to kill your our daughters. I have a feeling you take any propaganda you've been forced feed as the gospel.

Perhaps I was using hyperbole when I said "many". I know a few who were thrown out. Also a few for being gay. Still is common in many places. Look up honor killing.

And as for taking propaganda down the throat, as someone who makes statements like "We live in a total police state with the Department of Homeland Security, post 9/11 and with the damn TSA now (who have never caught even 1 terrorist by the way).", I think you are making hyperbole as well. I know it's fashionable to complain "OMGZ! The great Satan is out to destroy the world!", but your reply shows a lack of perspective. A police state wouldn't let you express dissent. Go ahead, try voicing dissatisfaction with Kim Jung Un publicly in North Korea. Try staging a protest in Iran, or being openly gay.

Is my country perfect? No, and it never will be. Do bad things happen? Does greed and fear sometimes get in the way of freedom and justice? Yes of course. But overall I'd say we are doing a good job.

 

[MY 405]

See? You said the same thing I was trying to,only much more succinctly. The Venn diagram should be something like: Older Douche Bags, Younger Douche Bags and The Place Where Acting Like A Douche Will Get You Banned.

If the cwcki didn't have a No Douches policy I wouldn't have stuck around to meet my cool new forum auntie.

Aw, see? The center holds! Forum Auntie now available to tell what it was like to be a kid during the Cold War.

 

[LucridMockery]

It's not propaganda to say that you literally can't fly in the US now without these security checks harassing kids in wheelchairs and everything, groping people and going thru cancer inducing body scanners when even though the TSA has NEVER caught 1 person who was a terrorist! Look it up. I'm serious. Why are there TSA checkpoints on roads now-days violating the 4th amendment? Because they are going too far.

The 90s were awesome for non-political reasons. The economy was better for most. They were simpler times. Still, kids in my schools could be poor like me and not have the name brand shoes for example and it wasn't a big deal. Kids are taunted so bad for that type of stuff now they have to have school uniforms in my area now so the kids can't make fun of each other.

For example metal detectors were put into my high school after I graduated. ID badges on kids in school and all this crap b/c of 911 and it's all just scare tactics. The government can't keep you 100% safe. People just have to realize that. They can't solve all of societies problems. That's up to the individual. You want to keep your kids safe you have to do it yourself.

Maybe you would give up your rights (if you have them in your country) to not be unreasonably searched to protect you from imaginary AlQaeda boogie men, but I don't. And yes, my neighborhood is crawling with more cops now than I ever ever remember. And the military spending DOMESTIC and abroad is higher than ever.

In the last 10 years, we now have "Free Speech Zones" and those are the only places you are allowed to protest in the US. When I was a kid, there were no such things. Look it up. Everything is getting clamped down. Not loosened up. They are just distracting everyone with these gay marriage issues. That's not going to matter much when we are all starving, homeless, and unemployed.

In the early 2000s, I could go out and get a new job anytime. It was no big deal. Now things are so bleak. That's why I feel I liked the 90s better.

I never said "Satan was out to destroy the world" I don't know where you got that from. I don't believe in God or satan. It's crooked governments, corporations, and banks that I'm talking about. The cops are their goons.

The people on this board are mostly american and we're talking about the modern American kids. I can't recall ever hearing of white or black people murdering their daughters for having kids out of wedlock in the US. Maybe that commonly happens in the middle east or england (middle east jr. now) but not here.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

The Great Satan is the word used by some Islamic extremist for the United States. I'm American too by the way.

Security checks are not harassment. Sad to say, but putting a bomb in some kids wheelchair or on a baby would be a good way of sneaking it on, so it has to be checked for. And what would happen if we didn't have those scanners and someone did do another 9/11? Would you say "Oh well, at least I didn't have to be inconvenienced."? Wouldn't even have to be terrorists, could just be a random lunatic like Holmes (the Boulder Theater Shooter). Scanners and pat-downs are a good idea, and it's sad it took a national tragedy to make us realize they were a necessity.

Al-Qaeda is imaginary now? So tell me, how did the super secret evil CIA agents fake every act that Al-Qaeda supposedly did? And I have surrendered no rights thank you. Laws change yes, sometimes in ways I don't agree with, but saying I have surrendered my rights is simply fear-mongering.

The free speech zones is outright untrue. I have seen protests in many different places for many different reasons. It is only groups who are thought (rightly or not) large and angry enough to go from peaceful protestors to rioting mobs that get pulled in, and even then a simple police presence is hardly unreasonable.

So what, the big bad government is out to get everyone out of sheer villainy? How does having a population that is starving, homeless, and unemployed benefit them? It seems that a well-fed, home-owning, employed population would have a much greater capacity to work, if you believe that the big bad government only cares about money.

Corporations and governments are not supernatural entities made up of inhuman creatures. They are people just like you and me. They are no more inherently evil then anyone else, and just as capable of good deeds.

 

[Surtur]

The 90's were far from simple. Crime has plummeted 70% since then, and since I grew up in the ghetto I remember police check points in my middle school. The 90's fucking sucked.

 

[Bgheff]

I view it as young people are by and large know it all shits. When you get older, you see this and realize (or not)you yourself were the same. All in all people really don't change too much. The quotes other posters have used show the even over a thousand years ago society had the same core issues. the only "improvements" each decade really has is new technology, and the good and bad that comes with that.

As for if the 90's were a better time than current times, they were not. It was just different. I think that could be said for several generations. the way things are done has certainly changed, although it isn't any better or worse.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Every generation is shocked when their kids start to rebel, forgetting they did the same.

 

[bradsternum]

I think the United States in general has hit a mid-life crises. Everything is about nostalgia and rehashing things that have already happened, from events (Occupy, a rehash of 1960s style protests), fashion, film (remakes, remakes, remakes), music, art, etc, etc.
So there's no actual culture, just the ghost of several generations' cultures. And the techno culture, of course, which, instead of the pursuit of space travel and curing humanity of its ills, seems to be devoted to making faster phones, bigger TVs, clearer pictures, and more realistic video games.

I don't think people write as well as they used to, and I don't think people are encouraged to be as creative as they once were. I think we are more cynical, more depressed in spite of our access to new and exciting technologies and pills, and, in some ways, more socially retarded. (Ever been in an elevator with strangers? Everyone awkwardly plays with their cell phone instead of talk...)

But I don't think it's hopeless. It's true, every generation thinks they are the last, every generation thinks there's is the greatest. We just have to readjust to the times.

 

[KatsuKitty]

I liked my experience of the 90s. Then again, I was a sheltered, moderately well-off white child. As a kid, everything tends to be good. So I'll say that's a "high" time of my life.

My perception of the decades is different than yours. When I was eleven or so, 9/11 happened, and that was like changing everything for the scarier. I still remember thinking I was going to die in a dirty bomb attack on my no-name town of 10,000. I also completely failed at adapting to teenage life. I was a depressed, sorry mess, horribly overweight, deeply closeted, and affected with out-of-control hypochondria that had me convinced I wasn't going to live to see the next few months at any given moment. Those were not good times. So I'll say that's a "low" time.

At nineteen I came out to people, lost a hundred pounds, and with everyone else gradually forgot about everything we worried about after 2001. So I'm sure in retrospect, I'll see this as a "high" time in my life. But I'm sure I'll eventually see another "low" time, probably when my worst fears of illness come true.

 

[The Hunter]

I liked my experience of the 90s. Then again, I was a sheltered, moderately well-off white child. As a kid, everything tends to be good. So I'll say that's a "high" time of my life.

My perception of the decades is different than yours. When I was eleven or so, 9/11 happened, and that was like changing everything for the scarier. I still remember thinking I was going to die in a dirty bomb attack on my no-name town of 10,000. I also completely failed at adapting to teenage life. I was a depressed, sorry mess, horribly overweight, deeply closeted, and affected with out-of-control hypochondria that had me convinced I wasn't going to live to see the next few months at any given moment. Those were not good times. So I'll say that's a "low" time.

At nineteen I came out to people, lost a hundred pounds, and with everyone else gradually forgot about everything we worried about after 2001. So I'm sure in retrospect, I'll see this as a "high" time in my life. But I'm sure I'll eventually see another "low" time, probably when my worst fears of illness come true.

That's the thing, though. My experience with the 90's wasn't that bad, but in retrospect, it wasn't a good time to live in (nor was 2000 or the 80's and everything prior to that). Although I was a poor Mexican American living in a tiny house on the Rio Grande in the 90's, but I found a place to enjoy myself in the outdoors (see my posts about my childhood). Just because a time was shitty for ME doesn't mean it was awful for everyone else. But in a historical perspective, I think the 90's were bad. Post 9/11, we moved into a nice house with money we didn't have and were struggling with debt every day. It didn't help that my mom took out a loan to go back to school, which really fucked us over. So yeah, those were some bad years for me, but even worse considering what was going on in the whole world.

I have high hopes for this decade, but I know by the next one, I'm going to say this one was a complete failure. :p But I think each generation is getting progressively better.

 

[LucridMockery]

The Great Satan is the word used by some Islamic extremist for the United States. I'm American too by the way.

Security checks are not harassment. Sad to say, but putting a bomb in some kids wheelchair or on a baby would be a good way of sneaking it on, so it has to be checked for. And what would happen if we didn't have those scanners and someone did do another 9/11? Would you say "Oh well, at least I didn't have to be inconvenienced."? Wouldn't even have to be terrorists, could just be a random lunatic like Holmes (the Boulder Theater Shooter). Scanners and pat-downs are a good idea, and it's sad it took a national tragedy to make us realize they were a necessity.

Al-Qaeda is imaginary now? So tell me, how did the super secret evil CIA agents fake every act that Al-Qaeda supposedly did? And I have surrendered no rights thank you. Laws change yes, sometimes in ways I don't agree with, but saying I have surrendered my rights is simply fear-mongering.

The free speech zones is outright untrue. I have seen protests in many different places for many different reasons. It is only groups who are thought (rightly or not) large and angry enough to go from peaceful protestors to rioting mobs that get pulled in, and even then a simple police presence is hardly unreasonable.

So what, the big bad government is out to get everyone out of sheer villainy? How does having a population that is starving, homeless, and unemployed benefit them? It seems that a well-fed, home-owning, employed population would have a much greater capacity to work, if you believe that the big bad government only cares about money.

Corporations and governments are not supernatural entities made up of inhuman creatures. They are people just like you and me. They are no more inherently evil then anyone else, and just as capable of good deeds.

lol, you are in for a rude awakening if you think all this stuff is true. I never said anything about "inhuman creatures" pal. Their is such a thing as evil, greedy people. You sure like to put words in my mouth.

Yeah corporations are you friend, it's not like they only care about profits. Government officials are you friends too, it's not like they only want more money and power. And I guess you're right, having the TSA and all these checkpoints and putting their hannds down kids' pants really DID stop all the shootings in the country.

The free speech zones are getting worse and there never used to be such a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Why can't you see that North Korea keeps their population starving poor and powerless to keep them slaves and it's works out very well for the people in power there. They force people to grow drugs to sell instead of food for their people to eat!

Al-Qaeda is a small rag-tag bullshit band propped up by our government! They are not capable of attacking us unless our government wants it. Here's a video of Hilary C. admitting US GOV created them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y Just like Cheney admitted that Hussein had nothing to do with 911 and Bush admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq in the leaked Downing Street memo! These people have resources they want. Saddam was going to drop US dollars as reserve currency and trade his oil in Euros.

You are so gullible you think the US's wars are legitimate?! Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex
Wars make certain companies alot of money and politicians alot of kickbacks, that's why we have these modern wars. Not for protection. All they do is kill millions of people.

You must be the type of person who takes everything for face value and doesn't question anything. Dig a little deeper, read some books, and watch some documentaries some time. No wonder people like Bush Jr. and Obama can get elected in a place like this with all these low-information voters around. My guess is you would make a good gitmo guard and follow the governments orders since you think it's ok to hold people indefinitely without evidence or charges, and torture fake confessions out of them as long as it "prevents another 911". As long as this hasn't personally effected you yet in a way you can understand it's fine if the millions of arab people are killed as collateral damage, the military spending backrupts the usa, and that other people's rights are infringed upon. The president can blow up US citiizens in drone attacks (Al-Awlaki), killing many kids in the process of drone attackas etc. because they might be a terrorist, even though it hasn't been proven in a court of law (coming to a US town near you-now we have domestic drones).

 

[CatParty]

The Great Satan is the word used by some Islamic extremist for the United States. I'm American too by the way.

Security checks are not harassment. Sad to say, but putting a bomb in some kids wheelchair or on a baby would be a good way of sneaking it on, so it has to be checked for. And what would happen if we didn't have those scanners and someone did do another 9/11? Would you say "Oh well, at least I didn't have to be inconvenienced."? Wouldn't even have to be terrorists, could just be a random lunatic like Holmes (the Boulder Theater Shooter). Scanners and pat-downs are a good idea, and it's sad it took a national tragedy to make us realize they were a necessity.

Al-Qaeda is imaginary now? So tell me, how did the super secret evil CIA agents fake every act that Al-Qaeda supposedly did? And I have surrendered no rights thank you. Laws change yes, sometimes in ways I don't agree with, but saying I have surrendered my rights is simply fear-mongering.

The free speech zones is outright untrue. I have seen protests in many different places for many different reasons. It is only groups who are thought (rightly or not) large and angry enough to go from peaceful protestors to rioting mobs that get pulled in, and even then a simple police presence is hardly unreasonable.

So what, the big bad government is out to get everyone out of sheer villainy? How does having a population that is starving, homeless, and unemployed benefit them? It seems that a well-fed, home-owning, employed population would have a much greater capacity to work, if you believe that the big bad government only cares about money.

Corporations and governments are not supernatural entities made up of inhuman creatures. They are people just like you and me. They are no more inherently evil then anyone else, and just as capable of good deeds.

lol, you are in for a rude awakening if you think all this stuff is true. I never said anything about "inhuman creatures" pal. Their is such a thing as evil, greedy people. You sure like to put words in my mouth.

Yeah corporations are you friend, it's not like they only care about profits. Government officials are you friends too, it's not like they only want more money and power. And I guess you're right, having the TSA and all these checkpoints and putting their hannds down kids' pants really DID stop all the shootings in the country.

The free speech zones are getting worse and there never used to be such a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Why can't you see that North Korea keeps their population starving poor and powerless to keep them slaves and it's works out very well for the people in power there. They force people to grow drugs to sell instead of food for their people to eat!

Al-Qaeda is a small rag-tag bullshit band propped up by our government! They are not capable of attacking us unless our government wants it. Here's a video of Hilary C. admitting US GOV created them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y Just like Cheney admitted that Hussein had nothing to do with 911 and Bush admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq in the leaked Downing Street memo! These people have resources they want. Saddam was going to drop US dollars as reserve currency and trade his oil in Euros.

You are so gullible you think the US's wars are legitimate?! Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex
Wars make certain companies alot of money and politicians alot of kickbacks, that's why we have these modern wars. Not for protection. All they do is kill millions of people.

You must be the type of person who takes everything for face value and doesn't question anything. Dig a little deeper, read some books, and watch some documentaries some time. No wonder people like Bush Jr. and Obama can get elected in a place like this with all these low-information voters around. My guess is you would make a good gitmo guard and follow the governments orders since you think it's ok to hold people indefinitely without evidence or charges, and torture fake confessions out of them as long as it "prevents another 911". As long as this hasn't personally effected you yet in a way you can understand it's fine if the millions of arab people are killed as collateral damage, the military spending backrupts the usa, and that other people's rights are infringed upon. The president can blow up US citiizens in drone attacks (Al-Awlaki), killing many kids in the process of drone attackas etc. because they might be a terrorist, even though it hasn't been proven in a court of law (coming to a US town near you-now we have domestic drones).

this sort of talk should go in the political thread.

 

[The Hunter]

lol, you are in for a rude awakening if you think all this stuff is true. I never said anything about "inhuman creatures" pal. Their is such a thing as evil, greedy people. You sure like to put words in my mouth.

Yeah corporations are you friend, it's not like they only care about profits. Government officials are you friends too, it's not like they only want more money and power. And I guess you're right, having the TSA and all these checkpoints and putting their hannds down kids' pants really DID stop all the shootings in the country.

The free speech zones are getting worse and there never used to be such a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Why can't you see that North Korea keeps their population starving poor and powerless to keep them slaves and it's works out very well for the people in power there. They force people to grow drugs to sell instead of food for their people to eat!

Al-Qaeda is a small rag-tag bullshit band propped up by our government! They are not capable of attacking us unless our government wants it. Here's a video of Hilary C. admitting US GOV created them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y Just like Cheney admitted that Hussein had nothing to do with 911 and Bush admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq in the leaked Downing Street memo! These people have resources they want. Saddam was going to drop US dollars as reserve currency and trade his oil in Euros.

You are so gullible you think the US's wars are legitimate?! Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex
Wars make certain companies alot of money and politicians alot of kickbacks, that's why we have these modern wars. Not for protection. All they do is kill millions of people.

You must be the type of person who takes everything for face value and doesn't question anything. Dig a little deeper, read some books, and watch some documentaries some time. No wonder people like Bush Jr. and Obama can get elected in a place like this with all these low-information voters around. My guess is you would make a good gitmo guard and follow the governments orders since you think it's ok to hold people indefinitely without evidence or charges, and torture fake confessions out of them as long as it "prevents another 911". As long as this hasn't personally effected you yet in a way you can understand it's fine if the millions of arab people are killed as collateral damage, the military spending backrupts the usa, and that other people's rights are infringed upon. The president can blow up US citiizens in drone attacks (Al-Awlaki), killing many kids in the process of drone attackas etc. because they might be a terrorist, even though it hasn't been proven in a court of law (coming to a US town near you-now we have domestic drones).

this sort of talk should go in the political thread.

Actually, I was considering just moving this thread to the Deep Thoughts area. I think this is proof that I should.

 

[CatParty]

deep thoughts should be renamed to crazy thoughts with all this rederick

 

[The Hunter]

deep thoughts should be renamed to crazy thoughts with all this rederick

Well, even if you don't agree with it or think it sounds like complete and utter bullshit, it still makes you think, no? Besides, everyone's entitled to an opinion and can express it if they feel like it. It's always interesting to take a peek into the mentality and thought process of others and stack them up against your own or others that you've seen.

 

[CatParty]

deep thoughts should be renamed to crazy thoughts with all this rederick

Well, even if you don't agree with it or think it sounds like complete and utter bullshit, it still makes you think, no? Besides, everyone's entitled to an opinion and can express it if they feel like it. It's always interesting to take a peek into the mentality and thought process of others and stack them up against your own or others that you've seen.

i guess you're right

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

The Great Satan is the word used by some Islamic extremist for the United States. I'm American too by the way.

Security checks are not harassment. Sad to say, but putting a bomb in some kids wheelchair or on a baby would be a good way of sneaking it on, so it has to be checked for. And what would happen if we didn't have those scanners and someone did do another 9/11? Would you say "Oh well, at least I didn't have to be inconvenienced."? Wouldn't even have to be terrorists, could just be a random lunatic like Holmes (the Boulder Theater Shooter). Scanners and pat-downs are a good idea, and it's sad it took a national tragedy to make us realize they were a necessity.

Al-Qaeda is imaginary now? So tell me, how did the super secret evil CIA agents fake every act that Al-Qaeda supposedly did? And I have surrendered no rights thank you. Laws change yes, sometimes in ways I don't agree with, but saying I have surrendered my rights is simply fear-mongering.

The free speech zones is outright untrue. I have seen protests in many different places for many different reasons. It is only groups who are thought (rightly or not) large and angry enough to go from peaceful protestors to rioting mobs that get pulled in, and even then a simple police presence is hardly unreasonable.

So what, the big bad government is out to get everyone out of sheer villainy? How does having a population that is starving, homeless, and unemployed benefit them? It seems that a well-fed, home-owning, employed population would have a much greater capacity to work, if you believe that the big bad government only cares about money.

Corporations and governments are not supernatural entities made up of inhuman creatures. They are people just like you and me. They are no more inherently evil then anyone else, and just as capable of good deeds.

lol, you are in for a rude awakening if you think all this stuff is true. I never said anything about "inhuman creatures" pal. Their is such a thing as evil, greedy people. You sure like to put words in my mouth.

Yeah corporations are you friend, it's not like they only care about profits. Government officials are you friends too, it's not like they only want more money and power. And I guess you're right, having the TSA and all these checkpoints and putting their hannds down kids' pants really DID stop all the shootings in the country.

The free speech zones are getting worse and there never used to be such a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Why can't you see that North Korea keeps their population starving poor and powerless to keep them slaves and it's works out very well for the people in power there. They force people to grow drugs to sell instead of food for their people to eat!

Al-Qaeda is a small rag-tag bullshit band propped up by our government! They are not capable of attacking us unless our government wants it. Here's a video of Hilary C. admitting US GOV created them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifZK6SVlQ1Y Just like Cheney admitted that Hussein had nothing to do with 911 and Bush admitting that there were no WMD in Iraq in the leaked Downing Street memo! These people have resources they want. Saddam was going to drop US dollars as reserve currency and trade his oil in Euros.

You are so gullible you think the US's wars are legitimate?! Eisenhower's "Military-Industrial Complex" Speech Origins and Significance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military–industrial_complex
Wars make certain companies alot of money and politicians alot of kickbacks, that's why we have these modern wars. Not for protection. All they do is kill millions of people.

You must be the type of person who takes everything for face value and doesn't question anything. Dig a little deeper, read some books, and watch some documentaries some time. No wonder people like Bush Jr. and Obama can get elected in a place like this with all these low-information voters around. My guess is you would make a good gitmo guard and follow the governments orders since you think it's ok to hold people indefinitely without evidence or charges, and torture fake confessions out of them as long as it "prevents another 911". As long as this hasn't personally effected you yet in a way you can understand it's fine if the millions of arab people are killed as collateral damage, the military spending backrupts the usa, and that other people's rights are infringed upon. The president can blow up US citiizens in drone attacks (Al-Awlaki), killing many kids in the process of drone attackas etc. because they might be a terrorist, even though it hasn't been proven in a court of law (coming to a US town near you-now we have domestic drones).

Resorting to personal attacks are we?

Do you have evidence beyond out of context quotes?

Good times and bad times happen, and disease and war have been constants for most of human history. Hate to disappoint you, but the sky is not in fact falling. And no amount of wishful thinking is going to change that.

 

[Dark Mirror Hole]

Everyone, please try to keep things civil.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

Heh, yeah I tend to get into it a little more then I should when it comes to politics. But we're just talking, nobody's getting hurt or anything.