Xbox Game Studios Stupidity Hate Thread Game Pass Edition

[Oliver Onions]

As they've also released FO4, FO76, and Starfield all as major games that weren't side projects, with ES6 only being announced in 2018.

Elder Scrolls Online as well. I've never met a single person who plays it, but it does exist and appears to still be receiving DLC and other content updates as recently as 2025.

Are there even any good Vita exclusive games?

There were, but they've all since been ported to other platforms (also 99% of them were visual novel games).

It sucks because --aside from the dogshit rear touchpad and Sony's bullshit with proprietary memory cards-- the Vita was a fantastic device.

 

[Lazy Drei]

It's them being possessive cunts.

There's a rumor that as part of the acquisition by Microsoft, Bethesda retained control of their IPs insofar as deciding how and what they're used for. It's partially why thr new Fallout project is a "co-production" with Bethesda "consulting" while Obsidian takes lead.

There's a story about how after NV released, Bethesda executives marched the development team into a meeting and forced them to watch a power point presentation about how they (Obsidian) don't understand the Fallout IP. That ended any working relationship they had at the time, even though the plan was for Obsidian to basically act as a support studio for Bethesda, developing b-tier titles for TES and Fallout in between the mainline entries. The relationship between the two studios is acrimonious at best, which makes it super funny to me that Microsoft basically took away Bethsoft's toy and gave it to Obsidian.

If Bethesda would actually make some decent games they could have kept playing their petty game like this, but not releasing shit and Shartfield being so atrocious has twisted the wrist of Papa MS into reacting.

Obsidian itself has also proven incapable of making interesting IP's by themself, Avowed is dogshit, Outer Worlds is dogshit and Grounded is a medicore success at best.

Whereas Bethesda has the IP's but needs to be whipped to become productive and crank out shit, Obsidian needs to be tard wrangled to crank out decent shit.

Both studios, in their own way, have been allowed to do their own thing for too long while bleeding money and nothing to show for in over 10 years.

All I hope now is that they fired the worst cancerous growths and normal developers can freely work and speak again without having to grovel at the altar of DEI before working on a game.

 

[moocow]

There's a story about how after NV released, Bethesda executives marched the development team into a meeting and forced them to watch a power point presentation about how they (Obsidian) don't understand the Fallout IP. That ended any working relationship they had at the time

lol I figured it was the "bribing the press to give the game just a single percentage point average review score deficit such that Bethesda didn't have to pay Obsidian a promised performance bonus, i.e. fucking them out of a lot of money, that killed that relationship.

Glad to see it's Microsoft's idea to force Bethesda to play nice w/Obsidian this time, though I'm sure they'll fuck it up on purpose somehow out of spite anyway. I'd love to see an unflattering parody of Todd Howard get snuck into the end product somehow, though. That'd be a delight.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Obsidian is not the studio they used to be but just the fact they released games firmly plants them as one of the best studios that Microsoft actually acquired.

Where is Obsidian? There's no way they've made any money with the last two duds.

Grounded I+II were successful, and XBL partially made up for poor OW2/Avowed sales.
I actually enjoyed OW2, but I can see how the setting didn't appeal to many.

how they had to cut stuff because they just didn't have the time and resources.

IKR, the Protectorate looked so close to being joinable, but uh no, enjoy picking between Momcorp and Mathmagicians.

 

[Agares]

Glad to see it's Microsoft's idea to force Bethesda to play nice w/Obsidian this time, though I'm sure they'll fuck it up on purpose somehow out of spite anyway. I'd love to see an unflattering parody of Todd Howard get snuck into the end product somehow, though. That'd be a delight.

I wish Obsidian would have the balls to do that. Even if it’s just a few terminal entries in a deserted bunker about a pre war politician named Rodd Broward. He promised 16 times the radiation protection for his shelter project but inside the bunker is nothing but skeletons, feral ghouls and signs of broken promises.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

The source of "they made us sit through a PowerPoint of what went wrong" is Chris Avellone, who is notoriously ass blasted and has been riding on one success for nearly two decades. He's also very vague about what this presentation supposedly included - and given the catastrophic technical state NV launched in, it isn't hard to imagine what was.

Obsidian constantly getting to shift blame on everyone and everything other than themselves wore out as an excuse years ago.