Xbox Game Studios Stupidity Hate Thread Game Pass Edition

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a yard sale for their IPs
Do they even have any worthwhile IPs worth purchasing?

but in reality probably Tencent picks up the lion's share then shuts it all down like usual
If I were being charitable to the chinks, maybe they're keeping the IPs dormant to let all the bad releases associated with them fade from memory, just so they can successfully reboot them a few years down the line to financial success and praise.

Then again, it just might be typical corpo "lock it in the vault to deny it to the enemy" retardation.
 
Do they even have any worthwhile IPs worth purchasing?
As they are currently? Not really. But a lot of them could be great again in the right hands.

Similar to Konami, Microsoft are sitting on a dragon's horde of solid IPs they either refuse to do anything with or completely fuck up whenever they trot out a new instalment (Halo, Fable, Crackdown).
 
If this really comes to pass it's far more likely Microsoft hold a yard sale for their IPs and studios instead of bundling it all under the Xbox umbrella, because what's the point in buying the rights to Xbox when the brand is poisoned beyond repair.

It would be interesting to see who turned up for what, (imagine if Nintendo decided to buy back Rare,) but in reality probably Tencent picks up the lion's share then shuts it all down like usual.
There's no way Microsoft, or anyone else, sells IPs. That's something that just isn't done anymore. Nintendo also has no interest in buying any IP. They already own so much of it that they can't get out games for everything in a timely manner, they're not wasting money on Banjo so they can own a fifth (sixth?, seventh?) platformer charcter.
 
I think it’s because people who are nostalgic for the past when Xbox was good are desperately grasping at any sign that the company might actually get a win, even though they keep floundering and failing to do so because Microslop higher ups are a group of masochists who hate making money.
I get that but some cautious optimism should be at play. Especially when the real higher ups are the same idiots that ruined everything.
 
As they are currently? Not really. But a lot of them could be great again in the right hands.

Similar to Konami, Microsoft are sitting on a dragon's horde of solid IPs they either refuse to do anything with or completely fuck up whenever they trot out a new instalment (Halo, Fable, Crackdown).
I love how they realized too little, too late that they have to actually DO something with those IPs in order to make money. Did the suits really think hype alone would sell consoles? “Maybe one day Xbox will get a new Fallout game!”.

All those billions spent on studios and Xbox still has no fucking games.
 
There's no way Microsoft, or anyone else, sells IPs.
Then they can license them out to other studios for a fee and let them shoulder the cost of making the game. Still better than doing literally nothing with them or letting them stew in development hell for years only to eventually pull the plug.
 
Then they can license them out to other studios for a fee and let them shoulder the cost of making the game. Still better than doing literally nothing with them or letting them stew in development hell for years only to eventually pull the plug.
Even then - would it justify the cost at all?

Most popular game IPs of the current day (excluding Nintendo) are indie/small/new. Silksong, Slay the Spire, Deltarune/Undertale, Stardew, ARC Raiders, the meme game of the month (Currently Meccha Chameleon), and so on. The only really big "leased" IP game was Baldur's Gate 3 - to which Larian (the studio) made the money and said "yeah, we aren't going to be working with WOTC again - fuck that" and is back to investing into their own IP instead.

Why would a studio pay Microsoft for the "Fable" license when the games are really bad, very old, and have 0 recognition value instead of just making their own IP. This could have also been a better conversation a decade ago - before Sony, Microsoft, and every other major studio painstakingly shit on their own IPs (things like Fallout 76, Veilguard, Halo, Marathon, Destiny, Assassin's Creed, etc). I'd actually pay money to not lease an IP for an upcoming game if it was required.
 
I love how they realized too little, too late that they have to actually DO something with those IPs in order to make money. Did the suits really think hype alone would sell consoles? “Maybe one day Xbox will get a new Fallout game!”.

All those billions spent on studios and Xbox still has no fucking games.
Selling XBOX to Elon would be the funniest outcome here.
That would purge the Bluesky and Reddit left wing culture warriors from its community, making Sony even more soy in the long term.
Elon is the kind that will tell them to make games, at a fast rate, lest they get fired. He hates wasted money and his firing finger is on the trigger. He would purge all the woke/incompetents. The man might not know how to name things but he knows business.
 
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wfJ8qreLv8k
I know, I know, it's Jason Schreier, but the vid had a couple interesting bits. Apparently Gamepass is a massive issue for xbox-owned studios as it eats up major portions of their profits (no surprise there). They use 'member-weighted values' to determine how many hours a month your game is played on gamepass by the audience, and then pay you the amount according to that number. Considering that Gamepass probably operates at a loss, I can't see that payout being very much at all, compared to not having the game on there so players have to play full price.

Also insiders are telling him it's going to be a 'bloodbath'. GOOD!
It was overall an interesting video. We really can't overstate what a gigantic fuck-up gamepass in combination with the Activision Blizzard acquisition has been.

Microsoft is such a strange company. Having worked with them in the past I can confirm they are very difficult to work with and have the nightmare bureaucracy of a corrupt third world country. Unfortunately they found the infinite money glitch in the 80s/90s but should have died a long time ago.
 
Even then - would it justify the cost at all?
There's only one way to find out. It'd cost Microsoft nothing to try and since the IPs are already toxic like you said it's on studios who think they can pull it off to roll the dice.

It seems to have gone well for Konami with Silent Hill; regardless of how fans feel about the new games they've sold well enough to go from us getting no Silent Hill games for 14 years to a remake of the best one and 2 brand new ones in the space of 3 years.
 
While I do agree Xbox is imploding, I would blame AI for the price increases instead of the new indian CEO. All hardware is increasing prices everywhere. Even if you don't use AI, you are paying the bill.
She is partly to blame because she ran the Microsoft AI division before joining Xbox

Sadly things are fucking expensive now due to this shit. I've started getting into hobbies that don't require expensive tech. It's been nice. I'm learning new skills and restoring old stuff is very therapeutic in a way. Plus it's all physical items, unlike the digital purchases that always has TOS that mean you do not own it.

I have an old graphics card so I've also been enjoying stylized indies that don't require beefy computers. There are many fun new games that run great on older systems that focus on gameplay rather than photo-realistic slop. I hope there's a renaissance of indies made with optimization and lower grade systems in mind. Now would be a great time to cash into that since most gamers can't afford to upgrade right now. I'm waiting out the storm and not buying any tech, hoping things will normalize eventually.
 
Even then - would it justify the cost at all?
If he shed the DEI shit, opened up the platform wide for developers worldwide to build/deploy games on it without Microsoft's evil overlord supervision style or corporate bullshit, and made online multiplayer free? Fuck yeah it would. How many hundreds of millions of Xbox owners are there? That's a hell of an audience to buy into, and devs might have more faith in it if they know MS isn't sitting there eating paste straight from the jar while they run the show.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tim "Whiny Asshole" Sweeney is nagging Tencent's management day and night right now begging them to buy the Xbox brand and put him in charge of it somehow. He's bitterly jealous of Valve's success and sees Microsoft's "buy our way into a big successful market" strategy as a winner (despite Microsoft's current "losing of their shirt" over it), and he'd give anything to be in a position to compete with Valve.
 
While I do agree Xbox is imploding, I would blame AI for the price increases instead of the new indian CEO.
Don't blame her, sure, but Microsoft is part of the circular funding circlejerk that has caused hardware prices to skyrocket, so they're still to blame.

At least for Xbox I don't see it as a huge issue because who is realistically buying a Series X/S this late in the generation? For everything else it sucks but if you wanted a current gen Xbox you almost certainly already have one.
 
Don't blame her, sure, but Microsoft is part of the circular funding circlejerk that has caused hardware prices to skyrocket, so they're still to blame.

At least for Xbox I don't see it as a huge issue because who is realistically buying a Series X/S this late in the generation? For everything else it sucks but if you wanted a current gen Xbox you almost certainly already have one.
The demand was so low that Costco quit selling Xboxes in the US and EBGames in Canada scaled back their stock of Xbox products last year. As it turns out, there’s not a whole lot of demand for a console with no games.
 
Xbox having the worst period for hardware sales ever
PlayStation having the worst period for hardware sales since like 2000.

It’s like these companies feel entitled to not lose a dime on their hardware that’s use to make up their console losses with game sales, accessories, and services. Who knew that some out of touch execs thought it was fine to continue to jack up prices in a bad economy?

Console prices - $600-900 dollars
New games - $60 to a $100. And that’s almost all digital
Services - $10-$25.
Accessories - $60 to $400
Microtransactions - Enter price here.

Like, who wants to pay these prices? It’s like all going digital, jacking up the price for everything year after year, and chasing dying trends is coming to a head.
 
It’s like these companies feel entitled to not lose a dime on their hardware.
Duh. Microsoft is looking to sell Xbox to another company like Google or Apple. They want to make it look as profitable as possible for when the big fire sale of Xbox and Microsoft Gaming happens next generation. SONY is in the same boat hoping for arabs to dump massive cash from some wealth fund into their company.

The product for all of these companies is the stock. That includes Valve which issues private stock to employees (and ex-wives). The products are not things like games, controllers, consoles, computers, or even microtransactions. The only number that matters is the stock price.
 
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