Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Stoneheart]

Im still at work... lazy south europeans will see not one dime... we got them below 400 billions and we will have a veto to everything...
fucking over Poland and the EU trillion are next... will be a hard week.

lets see if they can go on for another day against coked up Kurz. i also called Macron a Faggot in the meeting and walked off to get me a "coffee", he had a fit.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

You know what the good thing about actually deadly viruses like ebola is? If it's deadly enough to likely kill you, you are going to be so sick from the symptoms that you're unlikely to be standing anywhere, you're instead lying in your bed feeling death inch over you. Which limits the spread of the disease.

Which is exactly why milder strains of diseases naturally flourish, while the ultra-deadly strains are often victims of their own success and don't spread very far.

Not always. Covid is contagious before you show symptoms, which is why it's so bad. Ebola, while far more deadly, is only contagious once symptoms start. If Covid had a 50-90% death rate (like Ebola), we'd be proper fucked

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

On the swedish island of Gotland, the local goverment is using knights to get people to keep distance.

With everyone distracted by the COVID now would be a good time to prepare for a crusade.

lets see if they can go on for another day against coked up Kurz. i also called Macron a Faggot in the meeting and walked off to get me a "coffee", he had a fit.

Another option would be to get the Sixth Coalition back together which defeated another stumpy Frenchman with a power complex.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

So you'd be okay with someone with ebola standing in line next to you in the supermarket? I am guessing you wouldn't be

No I personally wouldn't but that doesn't give Big Brother the right to supersede individual liberty in the name of public health.

Which is exactly why milder strains of diseases naturally flourish, while the ultra-deadly strains are often victims of their own success and don't spread very far.

It's not even success. The goal of the virus isn't to kill, it's to reproduce.
Lower lethality is an objectively superior trait in pure Darwinian terms.

HIV being the most insane exception to the rules of natural selection, with an outrageous lethality rate and uncommon means of spread.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

No I personally wouldn't but that doesn't give Big Brother the right to supersede individual liberty in the name of public health.

It's attitudes like this which lead to huge pandemics. The rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. Are you also against laws requiring people to wear pants in public? And are you against restaurants having to follow healthcode laws (like washing their hands)?

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

It's attitudes like this which lead to huge pandemics.

It's attitudes like yours which lead to dictatorship.

The rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few.

Also, invulnerability to and 24/7 protection from the forces of nature aren't "rights". People don't have a right to not drown or get eaten by a shark when they go swimming, they don't have a right to not freeze to death or fall off a cliff when they go mountain climbing, and they don't have a right not to be exposed to disease while existing.

We are all animals and shit exists that can kill us. Get over it.

Are you also against laws requiring people to wear pants in public?

Yes.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It's attitudes like yours which lead to dictatorship.


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Also, invulnerability to and 24/7 protection from the forces of nature aren't "rights". People don't have a right to not drown or get eaten by a shark when they go swimming, they don't have a right to not freeze to death or fall off a cliff when they go mountain climbing, and they don't have a right not to be exposed to disease while existing.

We are all animals and shit exists that can kill us. Get over it.

Yes.

So you'd be fine with the chef at a restaurant taking a shit in your food before he serves it to you, because of his rights? Remind me not to ever go out to eat with you

And yes, the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. I hope you never encounter someone with drug-resistant TB

Comparing measures for public health to dictatorships is pretty ignorant, too. Congrats on that

 

[FuckedUp]

- Every authoritarian ever

No, my dad works at Libertarian and he said public health supersedes individual rights too. I've been waiting over four months to say this.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

So you'd be fine with the chef at a restaurant taking a shit in your food before he serves it to you, because of his rights? Remind me not to ever go out to eat with you

And yes, the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. I hope you never encounter someone with drug-resistant TB

Comparing measures for public health to dictatorships is pretty ignorant, too. Congrats on that

I know you're just trolling, but I'll still ask: how do you feel about flu shots and the measures taken against the seasonal flu yearly? Do you feel the measures are sufficient? Would you do more? Less?

Because the important number is half a million. Is that the number of covid deaths this year? No, it's the average number of seasonal flu deaths yearly. Given the current trajectory, depending on how things move, I'd put the likely range of covid deaths by years end at ~1.25x-2x the amount of regular flu deaths (and please note that due to the method by which flu and covid deaths are measured means that a single death could be counted towards both the seasonal flu and covid, due to the measure referring to being infected with it at the time of death).

Do you feel that 1.25x-2x is that significant an amount that it justifies the unprecedented restrictions? Do you feel that the response is justified for the seasonal flu as well?

I just don't get the special emphasis over COVID. I don't get people going insane over masks and mandatory vaccines when they didn't care year after year about the flu which was half as deadly, and actually had a yearly vaccine. I wonder how many of the people going insane over COVID even got their flu shot last fall.

It's the hypocrisy that ultimately grinds my last nerve.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I know you're just trolling, but I'll still ask: how do you feel about flu shots and the measures taken against the seasonal flu yearly? Do you feel the measures are sufficient? Would you do more? Less?

Because the important number is half a million. Is that the number of covid deaths this year? No, it's the average number of seasonal flu deaths yearly. Given the current trajectory, depending on how things move, I'd put the likely range of covid deaths by years end at ~1.25x-2x the amount of regular flu deaths (and please note that due to the method by which flu and covid deaths are measured means that a single death could be counted towards both the seasonal flu and covid, due to the measure referring to being infected with it at the time of death).

Do you feel that 1.25x-2x is that significant an amount that it justifies the unprecedented restrictions? Do you feel that the response is justified for the seasonal flu as well?

I just don't get the special emphasis over COVID. I don't get people going insane over masks and mandatory vaccines when they didn't care year after year about the flu which was half as deadly, and actually had a yearly vaccine. I wonder how many of the people going insane over COVID even got their flu shot last fall.

It's the hypocrisy that ultimately grinds my last nerve.

Covid has a death rate 5-20 times higher than the flu. It's not really a valid comparison. The reason deaths are so low is because of things like lockdowns and mask mandates.

Also, your flu numbers are off. By more than a factor of 5-10. https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

This year's flu season is shaping up to be possibly less severe than the 2017-2018 season, when 61,000 deaths were linked to the virus. However, it could equal or surpass the 2018-2019 season's 34,200 flu-related deaths.

 

[Cold Root Beer]

Covid has a death rate 5-20 times higher than the flu. It's not really a valid comparison. The reason deaths are so low is because of things like lockdowns and mask mandates.

Also, your flu numbers are off. By more than a factor of 5-10. https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

The flu death number you just quoted is for the the US only, half a million is the worldwide number.

 

[JosephStalin]

Maybe it depends on the location, but I haven't had any problem paying for things with cash.

Yesterday went to the local Walmart. Due to a coin shortage, they were not accepting cash, just credit/debit cards. But I buy little there. Use checks at the commissary, pay bills on line. Use cash for other purchases.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Yesterday went to the local Walmart. Due to a coin shortage, they were not accepting cash, just credit/debit cards. But I buy little there. Use checks at the commissary, pay bills on line. Use cash for other purchases.

Since all our grocery stores out here require masks I've been going to our local guy instead of the huge corporate ones and as far as I know he doesn't have any issues with cash or shortages.

 

[JosephStalin]

They obviously never know how harder life is in other places, and continue this victim complex. Or they act like this guy:

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America is the only country I know of where people routinely risk their lives to get into the country. America is the refuge of last resort for many. America is the only country I know of that's routinely vilified in many other places around the world, but should some catastrophe happen those haters weep for joy at the appearance of Americans providing assistance/relief. America is by no means perfect, but it's the best place going.

 

[FuckedUp]

America is the only country I know of where people routinely risk their lives to get into the country. America is the refuge of last resort for many. America is the only country I know of that's routinely vilified in many other places around the world, but should some catastrophe happen those haters weep for joy at the appearance of Americans providing assistance/relief. America is by no means perfect, but it's the best place going.

Well, Sweden just surpassed it last March.

 

[booklover]

I got this information from Dr. Zorba Paster, so it's definitely not crackpot-oriented. I definitely signed up; the worst they can do is say I'm not qualified.

https://www.coronaviruspreventionnetwork.org/

 

[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

I’m not gonna have some Glow Nigger inject me with shit.

 

[Diabeetus]

Will you get money from it?

 

[Meat Target]

>Dr. Zorba Paster
Find me a name that screams louder: "How do you do, fellow Earthlings?"

 

[Jimmy Durante's Ballsack]

The last time I played ookie mouth I got polio.