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A more recent history, but ancient in internet time: Momsnet is 25 years old.
The Spectator: The political power of Mumsnet – Helen Joyce & Sarah Pedersen
"Founded 25 years ago, Mumsnet has grown into the UK’s most influential parenting platform, boasting over 8 million monthly users. But it’s far more than nappies and night feeds — it’s a political powerhouse, a grassroots campaign engine, and a sanctuary for outspoken, sharp-witted women navigating everything from motherhood to social justice. Natasha Feroze speaks to journalist Helen Joyce and Academic Sarah Pedersen about the political rise of Mumsnet."
 
Jadwiga (Hedwig in Hungarian) was one of the only women in history to hold the title of king. Not queen, king. It was because she was the most favorable candidate to the polish nobility I believe.
The reason she's not a queen is because in polish royal law a queen is just the wife of the king and doesn't have the same privileges. Like the difference between the president and the first lady.
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She was also the only female monarch in Polands history which I think is kinda neat.
 
ThePozzedOutCritic dijo:
I have a bunch of old commie propaganda saved some of which features women
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Speaking of the it, there's this book titled "The Unwomanly Face of War". I recommend it, it's a good read.

Otterly dijo:
Mozart had a sister, who was apparently as talented as he was. After she turned 18 she moved from child prodigy to ‘adult women don’t do that’ and never played in public like he did. None of her compositions survive, only some letters from Wolfgang to her praising her work.
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I know you mean good, and I really do think it's unfortunate what happened to Marianne. Even in present time, things like marriage and pregnancy still affect how a company value a woman's career.

Still, this reminds me of Mozart's interest in scatology along with the letters he sent to his sister...
 
Chemex dijo:
really do think it's unfortunate what happened to Marianne
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They were clearly both very talented as children. Both were deemed prodigies at the time. We have no idea if she’d have turned out as talented as him as an adult, as we have nothing of hers left. There’s a couple of violin sonatas they think might be hers due to the handwriting but that’s not proof. Just another disappearing woman…
 
ThePozzedOutCritic dijo:
Could you tell me what's it about?
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Stories about women during WW2, especially the Soviet's side. Think of it as a collection of interviews made into stories. Since war is usually seen as a "man's thing", the book gives a nice insight on how it was like for women who had to serve during the war. The author also writes some other similar historical books (the Voices of Utopia series), so if it catches your interest, you might want to read the others, too.
 
Kiwisee dijo:
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Catherine the Great was pretty based. She overthrew her man-child husband, became empress, humiliated other leaders at the time, made her enemies so mad that they had to spread rumors about her dying from being railed by a horse (in reality, she died of a stroke).

Above all else, she was as intelligent as she was ambitious.
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Catherine's role in the continued westernization of the Russian Aristocracy cannot be understated, genuinely fascinating Woman and a far more fitting Czarina than her impotent late husband. Lot of cool Slavic chicks historically I think, despite the arguably more Patriarchal attitudes in their traditional societies
 
In South America. Simon Bolivar had a Brown Tomboy gf: Manuela Saez, one of few women military during Hispanic Independence Wars. She was a good friend of Hernan Melville (creator of Moby Dick) and Giuseppe Garibaldi (Hero of Italian Reunification).
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This could be posted to the art history thread, but whatever.

One of the best-known women artists, Artemisia Gentileschi, was a professional artist in the first half of the 17th century (Baroque period in art). Everyone around her attested to her incredible talent. She was greatly influenced by Caravaggio, but in many ways, she would add her unique perspective and twist to her work. Sadly, her best known work was likely influenced by her being raped by Agostino Tassi (an artist collaborating with her father), and the consequent long trial (which she won!).

The painting in question is Judith slaying Holofernes [Artemisia's rendition (c. 1620) is on the right and Caravaggio's (c. 1599) is on the left]:
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You can see how Artemisia is influenced by Caravaggio, especially his realism, chiaroscuro (extreme contrast of light and dark), and composition. The most striking difference is the facial expression and mood of the painting. Caravaggio's Judith is disgusted and slightly hesitant, while Artemisia's is determined with a calm expression, even getting assistance from her servant. Most importantly, Artemisia's Judith is likely an autoportret!

She is known for using her likeness to portray female figures, especially those she relates to. For example:

-As the personification of painting -As St. Catherine of Alexandria (known for her intellect)
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Kiwisee dijo:
She is far more talented than Caravaggio. She's able to make the characters in her paintings emote more realistically than him
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Idk, not to be a bigotted self-hating cunt, but I have to say Caravaggio is in a league of his own. I agree that Artemisia was better at some things than him; she had readily available female models and could study the female body better, which also meant it was harder for her to get male models. It's hard to measure talent, but I'd say both of them are prodigies. It's worth noting that Artemisia idolised Caravaggio and built on his legacy. Ultimately, I believe Artemisia was held back by being a woman in those times, but I can't help but see how that adversity shaped her work and made her unique.
 
Kiwisee dijo:
She is far more talented than Caravaggio. She's able to make the characters in her paintings emote more realistically than him
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Caravaggio literally did the anime girl squishing boobs together pose. :story: The expression choice is bizarre and lmao at that cartoonish blood streak.

Artemisia depicted killing a rapist like you'd depict a woman doing any household chore such as taking out the trash. Based queen.
 
Red flag dijo:
Caravaggio literally did the anime girl squishing boobs together pose. :story: The expression choice is bizarre and lmao at that cartoonish blood streak.

Artemisia depicted killing a rapist like you'd depict a woman doing any household chore such as taking out the trash. Based queen.
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Artemisia likely knew about parabolas, hence the realistic stream of blood. For a schizo carrying a sword around, I have to agree that Caravaggio's blood is lackluster comapared to Artemisia's.
 
Jack Weatherford wrote The Secret History of the Mongol Queens: How the Daughters of Genghis Khan Rescued His Empire in 2010, and it was an excellent read. Makes for a very different view of Mongol history and beyond.
 
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