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I can't believe a movie production would hire a cis actor to play a trans person. What kind of actor gets paid to pretend to be something they're not???

Oh, that's right, every single fucking one of them.
 
trombonista dijo:
Genitals are the only sexual characteristic one could get dysphoric about as a child. Are Stephie and Ciel admitting they don't have dysphoria and thus aren't trans?
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I know I'm responding to a slightly old post, but I was in an argument with someone once who claimed you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans.

His source? An EverydayFeminism article.
 
Chubby_Penguin dijo:
Sophie decided to delete the original poster and replace it with a slightly revised one (in wording only):

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Two things bug me:
Why only trans-actresses? What about trans-actors? Shouldn't this be about trans-people in general?

Secondly, studies say that the percentage of transsexual people lies between 0,0015% and 0,26%. Even if this would be mirrored exactly onto movies and we assume the highest percentage, it means that for every 1000 roles, there should be 2.6 trans actors (male and female)... when it comes to trans woman only, this would be 2 people per 1000 roles. And this is assuming that every trans actress can play a born woman, without alienating the audience. But most of them can't, since the audience will probably notice and expect to see some sort of 'coming out' at some point, which will never come.
 
SpacePanther dijo:
Remember, I'm pretty sure if you google werewolf2814 (or is it 2418?) You can find him easy. It's like his calling card.
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He still has his twitter page, good thinking!

PS: If you google his old accounts with "tumblr" in the google search bar, I kept finding a few phrases. The first being "pedophile" and "rapist jailed". Interesting
 
Von Clausewitz dijo:
Two things bug me:
Why only trans-actresses? What about trans-actors? Shouldn't this be about trans-people in general?

Secondly, studies say that the percentage of transsexual people lies between 0,0015% and 0,26%. Even if this would be mirrored exactly onto movies and we assume the highest percentage, it means that for every 1000 roles, there should be 2.6 trans actors (male and female)... when it comes to trans woman only, this would be 2 people per 1000 roles. And this is assuming that every trans actress can play a born woman, without alienating the audience. But most of them can't, since the audience will probably notice and expect to see some sort of 'coming out' at some point, which will never come.
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According to Hayden Black, his exhaustive research shows there are plenty of transwomen actresses out there. They're all employed as porn stars.
 
Oh hey some more people replied so I can post again. Let me sperg a bit about writing because I love to write and I hate smug writers who can't write for shit.

Stephanie is such a shitty inconsistent and unlikeable character. Now everyone who reads the comic would know that but it always helps to know why something is shitty so we can learn from someone else's mistakes or whatever.

The thing is about Stephanie that bugs me the most is how an eleven year old kid talk exactly like a stereotypical left-leaning college student in her early twenties. Now granted, this is fiction and children acting smarter than they would in real life is one of those reality breaks that audience will easily accept. But you can only stretch the audience's suspension of disbelief so far until people start thinking, "what the fuck that's bullshit", and Stephanie is exactly the kind of character that provokes such a reaction.

Not only does he... she... XERXA has an extensive vocabulary on gender-related matters, but xerxa knows exactly what these terms mean as well as their proper context and is more than willing to give lectures about gender or whatever the fuck to anyone who simply stands near her, with a very confident and smug attitude to boot. I know plenty of adults who don't even know what the fuck "patriarchy" or "hegemonic masculinity model" mean, so for a kid to know all of this shit and lecturing everyone while xerxa is at it stretches the boundaries of believability more than any work of fiction should.

But to top it all off, the writer just does not seem to be able to be consistent on whether Stephanie is supposed to act like a confident college feminist or simply a kid, because there are plenty of comics where Stephanie gets upset and has a boo-boo over incredibly minor things. That would normally be excusable because xerxa is a kid and kids just simply get upset by shit that doesn't matter, but it's such a huge contrast that Stephanie in the long run comes off as a completely deranged, bipolar psycho.

I guess that's the lesson the comic wants to teach us: trannies are fucked in the head, yo.
 
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vertexwindi dijo:
Oh hey some more people replied so I can post again. Let me sperg a bit about writing because I love to write and I hate smug writers who can't write for shit.

Stephanie is such a shitty inconsistent and unlikeable character. Now everyone who reads the comic would know that but it always helps to know why something is shitty so we can learn from someone else's mistakes or whatever.

The thing is about Stephanie that bugs me the most is how a six year old kid talk exactly like a stereotypical left-leaning college student in her early twenties. Now granted, this is fiction and children acting smarter than they would in real life is one of those reality breaks that audience will easily accept. But you can only stretch the audience's suspension of disbelief so far until people start thinking, "what the fuck that's bullshit", and Stephanie is exactly the kind of character that provokes such a reaction.

Not only does he... she... XERXA has an extensive vocabulary on gender-related matters, but xerxa knows exactly what these terms mean as well as their proper context and is more than willing to give lectures about gender or whatever the fuck to anyone who simply stands near her, with a very confident and smug attitude to boot. I know plenty of adults who don't even know what the fuck "patriarchy" or "hegemonic masculinity model" mean, so for a kid to know all of this shit and lecturing everyone while xerxa is at it stretches the boundaries of believability more than any work of fiction should.

But to top it all off, the writer just does not seem to be able to be consistent on whether Stephanie is supposed to act like a confident college feminist or simply a kid, because there are plenty of comics where Stephanie gets upset and has a boo-boo over incredibly minor things. That would normally be excusable because xerxa is a kid and kids just simply get upset by shit that doesn't matter, but it's such a huge contrast that Stephanie in the long run comes off as a completely deranged, bipolar psycho.

I guess that's the lesson the comic wants to teach us: trannies are fucked in the head, yo.
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One error you made is that "xerxa" is 11. Her fans seem to find it charming that she talks like that. Sophie nuked all her old comics where she spoke almost word-for-word from a gender studies textbook.

I'm glad she's not the only speaker for transfolk, otherwise trans rights would be held back one or two centuries.
 
Didn't know that was said in the comic, but thanks. The art style had me thinking the kids were around six or seven.
 
vertexwindi dijo:
Oh hey some more people replied so I can post again. Let me sperg a bit about writing because I love to write and I hate smug writers who can't write for shit.

Stephanie is such a shitty inconsistent and unlikeable character. Now everyone who reads the comic would know that but it always helps to know why something is shitty so we can learn from someone else's mistakes or whatever.

The thing is about Stephanie that bugs me the most is how a six year old kid talk exactly like a stereotypical left-leaning college student in her early twenties. Now granted, this is fiction and children acting smarter than they would in real life is one of those reality breaks that audience will easily accept. But you can only stretch the audience's suspension of disbelief so far until people start thinking, "what the fuck that's bullshit", and Stephanie is exactly the kind of character that provokes such a reaction.

Not only does he... she... XERXA has an extensive vocabulary on gender-related matters, but xerxa knows exactly what these terms mean as well as their proper context and is more than willing to give lectures about gender or whatever the fuck to anyone who simply stands near her, with a very confident and smug attitude to boot. I know plenty of adults who don't even know what the fuck "patriarchy" or "hegemonic masculinity model" mean, so for a kid to know all of this shit and lecturing everyone while xerxa is at it stretches the boundaries of believability more than any work of fiction should.

But to top it all off, the writer just does not seem to be able to be consistent on whether Stephanie is supposed to act like a confident college feminist or simply a kid, because there are plenty of comics where Stephanie gets upset and has a boo-boo over incredibly minor things. That would normally be excusable because xerxa is a kid and kids just simply get upset by shit that doesn't matter, but it's such a huge contrast that Stephanie in the long run comes off as a completely deranged, bipolar psycho.

I guess that's the lesson the comic wants to teach us: trannies are fucked in the head, yo.
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I think one of the main reasons for the "cringeworthyness" of this web comic is, that Stephie is a blatant self-insert of the author. This is so painfully obvious, I don't even need to bother to explain why she is.

Self-inserts one of the biggest no-no's when it comes to writing and one of the first things they teach you not to do, when it comes to storytelling. In most cases the insert is pretty much an amalgamation of the authors hopes and dreams, inextricably connected to the authors current moods and mood swings and therefore usually not consistent at all. Especially in episodic material.

For instance: The author had a good week and then some douche snatches her favorite parking spot? Expect the self-insert to overreact in the next strip and face off some inconsiderate strawman. ( It is pretty much the same thing, why you don't want to play D&D with Bob, after he had a shitty day at work. )

Most self-inserts also have strong Mary Sue tendencies. Since the author has the complete control over their story, usually nothing bad ever happens to their alter ego - and if it does, the self-insert usually comes out on top in some way or another. Most likely it is the witty comeback, the author came up with, minutes after the discussion where he needed it was over.

A self-insert is also rarely wrong, usually the smartest, funniest, most adored and/or wackiest character in the entire story (at least in the eyes of the author) and their perfection inside the story makes them either annoying or just plain bland. (See: Bella Swan, Clary Fray, etc.). In case of comics you can bet your ass, that the self-insert will most likely look like the author in one way or another.

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vertexwindi dijo:
Which is why I find it so strange the author went with a child as the main character of her tranny comic. If it was done only to make Stephanie seem like xerxa's not a self-insert, she failed.
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I think it might have been done because of the target audience but Stephie never talks like a child and it's not a Peanuts style world either where all the kids talk like they are are way more mature than their age it's just Stephie that does it.
 
vertexwindi dijo:
Which is why I find it so strange the author went with a child as the main character of her tranny comic. If it was done only to make Stephanie seem like xerxa's not a self-insert, she failed.
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I'd assume that LaBelle probably had issues in her childhood, with the whole thing about "kids having to be able to choose their gender" being pushed into peoples faces, again and again. Most likely, LaBelle always felt "out of place" and did not know of transgender being a thing, together with having her parents not being approving of her behaivour. This is only a guess, but I think it's a good one.
 
Von Clausewitz dijo:
I think one of the main reasons for the "cringeworthyness" of this web comic is, that Stephie is a blatant self-insert of the author. This is so painfully obvious, I don't even need to bother to explain why she is.

Self-inserts one of the biggest no-no's when it comes to writing and one of the first things they teach you not to do, when it comes to storytelling. In most cases the insert is pretty much an amalgamation of the authors hopes and dreams, inextricably connected to the authors current moods and mood swings and therefore usually not consistent at all. Especially in episodic material.

For instance: The author had a good week and then some douche snatches her favorite parking spot? Expect the self-insert to overreact in the next strip and face off some inconsiderate strawman. ( It is pretty much the same thing, why you don't want to play D&D with Bob, after he had a shitty day at work. )

Most self-inserts also have strong Mary Sue tendencies. Since the author has the complete control over their story, usually nothing bad ever happens to their alter ego - and if it does, the self-insert usually comes out on top in some way or another. Most likely it is the witty comeback, the author came up with, minutes after the discussion where he needed it was over.

A self-insert is also rarely wrong, usually the smartest, funniest, most adored and/or wackiest character in the entire story (at least in the eyes of the author) and their perfection inside the story makes them either annoying or just plain bland. (See: Bella Swan, Clary Fray, etc.). In case of comics you can bet your ass, that the self-insert will most likely look like the author in one way or another.

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Self-inserts aren't always bad. A self-insert can be done well if the artist/writer is not afraid to make the self-insert a three-dimensional character with flaws and failings. The thing is, Stephie isn't those things. She's a textbook Mary Sue. She's perfect, she's always right, she knows everything about everything, she's portrayed as smarter than all the other characters, everyone automatically loves and respects her, and the only characters who don't are portrayed as villainous strawmen. Assigned Male is nothing but a wish fulfillment fantasy for Sophie.
 
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Ho Mo for Women dijo:
Self-inserts aren't always bad. A self-insert can be done well if the artist/writer is not afraid to make the self-insert a three-dimensional character with flaws and failings. The thing is, Stephie isn't those things. She's a textbook Mary Sue. She's perfect, she's always right, she knows everything about everything, she's portrayed as smarter than all the other characters, everyone automatically loves and respect her, and the only characters who don't are portrayed as villainous strawmen. Assigned Male is nothing but a wish fulfillment fantasy for Sophie.
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Of course not all self-inserts are bad...
They are like farts: Either they stink or you just don't realize that someone has farted.

( Whoohooo! I made a analogy with farts! And it made sense! My life is complete! )
 
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