will humanity survive AI?

[finallyfalling]

Gen AI will ruin the internet as we know it. Soon you won't be able to tell real from fake and few talk about the implications. Governments and independent actors will use AI for propaganda. Imagine what North Korea will do with gen AI. What I'm most worried about is AGI. Once AGI's achieved, most of humanity will be rendered obsolete. Humans will have to grapple with the fact that they're of no use to their community or the world, and never will be. Some experts say AGI is still far away and I'm hoping that's true.

 

[ChefBourgeoisie]

Humanity is no closer to AI than it was 30 years ago. What we have now with the generative models isn't AI, and can't become AI. It's not even very good at what science fiction used to call an "oracle"... a magic machine that could answer questions but wasn't actually conscious.

A good analogy might be the human eye. Though you're not necessarily aware of it, there is a hole in the middle of your vision but your brain hides this from you and makes you think you can see things in the middle of your field of view. And you actually can, since you have two eyes, and the hole in your vision doesn't overlap... what one eye misses, the other can see. Your brain just fills in the gap (it even does this if one eye is covered... it makes up bullshit so you don't notice). Well, your intelligence is much the same. There's a hole in the middle of it. A hole that prevents you from meaningful cognition into the nature of how intelligence works. You honestly just can't think through the basic principles even though your own mind is operating from those basic principles.

Given a million years, humans might manage to stumble upon AI accidentally. And, having done that, they might then come to understand it (the rules are written down at that point, so to speak, for all to see). But we don't have a million years. We don't even have a thousand. Extinction looms. It's not some giant rock the size of Chevy Chase's ego ready to slam into the planet. It's not a little extra carbon dioxide making polar bears extinct. We're about to go out in the most pathetic way imaginable.

 

[VIPPER?]

AI will destroy trust. It was already a thing to inherently distrust anything online, but normies didn't know that and now they're catching on. It could promote more in-person interactions but even then it becomes "how much of this person's opinion is informed by AI?"

There's other issues like accelerating the competency crisis, tools becoming actually harder to use, etc. but imo the biggest thing is that already you basically can't look at anything and be sure that it's based on anything real. AI is fine for mangling data or creating coombait but when it starts to be used to publish stats that will be used in policy discussions and such, how can I know that my leaders aren't making the usual bonehead decisions except this time based on the hallucinations of a machine that can't even display a square properly?

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

There's other issues like accelerating the competency crisis, tools becoming actually harder to use, etc. but imo the biggest thing is that already you basically can't look at anything and be sure that it's based on anything real. AI is fine for mangling data or creating coombait but when it starts to be used to publish stats that will be used in policy discussions and such, how can I know that my leaders aren't making the usual bonehead decisions except this time based on the hallucinations of a machine that can't even display a square properly?

I think part of it is a cultural thing that has led to such a crisis of competence even before AI. More so with social media and TikTok in particular. No value placed on education, children having no consequences for their actions, lazy, absent parenting. Just more entitlement and more division in general. Or social media and the internet in general have taken all the worst aspects of American and other Western cultures and amplified them tenfold.

I think the theory is that they're trying to flood the internet with fake shit to distract people, to make it like the pre-internet era where you didn't know much about some of the sketchy shit your country was doing. I think in general the government regrets opening up the internet and wants to go back.
Some of the shit you'll find on tiktok from zoomers who don't fit the typical drooling tard model, who think AI and phones are ruining education, will be dog-pilled by the nigger cattle. I know the "our country is doomed with the next generation" was a thing, but this time it's very true. Who the fuck's going to do the jobs that aren't talked about or undervalued that keep the shit going? Garbage collectors, electricians, sewage and water treatment operators, etc. When everyone is a drooling, slobbering tard who can't read or do basic arithmetic? When everyone on every side of the imaginable has been fed and encouraged to engage in "woe is me" mentality? When everyone is so hyper individualistic and entitled?

 

[VIPPER?]

a crisis of competence even before AI.

Of course, the competency crisis predates modern AI

I think the theory is that they're trying to flood the internet with fake shit to distract people,

For AI specifically, I don't think that's it. It's just a way to get stuff done on the cheap. That said, I absolutely do believe that glowies, megacorps, and "Special Interest Groups" absolutely engage in sliding tactics and the like. Bots have been everywhere for ages, to say nothing of targeted campaigns by dedicated agents.
I was just saying that even the "nigger cattle" are going back to the early internet vibe of "You can't trust anything you see here", but that's extending to real life too since real life policy and operations are becoming reliant on free tiers of AI slop generators. Less "who is going to collect the garbage" and more "how is a sane garbage truck route going to be made when the 'app' they use to generate them says to go down streets that don't exist"

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

I was just saying that even the "nigger cattle" are going back to the early internet vibe of "You can't trust anything you see here", but that's extending to real life too since real life policy and operations are becoming reliant on free tiers of AI slop generators. Less "who is going to collect the garbage" and more "how is a sane garbage truck route going to be made when the 'app' they use to generate them says to go down streets that don't exist"

I think I worded it a bit wrong lol. I think this shit was inevitable with the rise of retardation in both leadership and the public, some places were always going to come up with something this stupid. With us amerifags, we've had nothing but dementia-ridden geriatrics for president for over a decade. We've had no limits on how old you can be before you can stop working in government due to natural cognitive decline. These people are very out of touch, but they can still pull up the ladder in front of everyone else. Even with clear psych decline.

 

[Thiletonomics]

Where?

... asking for a friend.

I'm interested in generating art and videos to make it seem like old historical films. It will be a long time until we reach that point.

Jpop/Kpop shit. Don't know how it works for jpop, but for kpop these days, you buy up hundreds of albums, merchandise during a period of time. Get entered in some sort of lottery, domestic fans get prioritized, and a limited of international fans get in. Some fansigns will allow skinships, where you can shake or hand their hand for a few extra seconds. International tours, from what I remember, you just pay extra. That's how I met the Wonder Girls when I was a kid. It was a long time ago so things more than likely changed.

Or you can pay for one of those cuddling services where you hire a professional cuddler.

In addition, Japanese people have cripping addictions to gacha games, blowing excessive money for the 3 second dopamine hit of getting a maxed ranked character:

Culture Tema 'Almost 19% of Japanese people in their 20s have spent so much money on gacha they struggled with covering living expenses, survey reveals'

17 de Abr, 2025

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/almost-19-of-japanese-people-in-their-20s-have-spent-so-much-money-on-gacha-they-struggled-with-covering-living-expenses-survey-reveals

Japan’s SMBC Consumer Finance has released this year’s results of their annual online survey on the spending habits of Japanese people in their 20s. With exactly 1000 participants in the age range of 20 to 29, the survey, conducted in February 2025, researched the relationship young people have with spending money in many different areas of life, including gaming.

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And Chinese and Koreans love Pay-2-Win games, with MapleStory 1 being one notable example as the Chinese and Korean whales have kept the game going, while the sequel game flopped quickly.