Why won't Christian Nationalists say 'Jesus'? - I hate the Anti-Christ

[Haim Arlosoroff]

So do we all know about the Google Trends line for Christian Nationalism? At least for those who have come across the term?

They spike after the news, showing a majority of people chatter about it on the internet only after the News reports on the Electric Jew in the living room of the most moral of boomer households. It simply isn't organic. Unfortunately Charlottesville, Jan 10th, Roe's overturning, nor Viktor Orbán's Speech reflect any sort organic use of the term before the TV box imprints the term into the soft minds of boomer elites to manufacture the consent of the governed needed for Democratic culling of the weakest parts of the Right in order to continuously weaken their opposition. Which is a mouthful, but technically we should've all been familiar enough with the subjects to get through that long sentence. I hope we all did? Ok. So, "Christian Nationalism" just spikes afterward rather than before. The News creates the form of their opposition and then rhetorically dismantles them. We're all there?

So my question is this. Why do the Christian Nationalists, whether it be Viktor Orbán or the Supreme-Court-Justices-who-stopped-the-mass-graves-of-would-be-Christians, never say Jesus?

This is the closest Viktor comes to in his CPAC speech, and it is technically a quote and so it is forced.

You have midterm elections this year, then presidential and congressional elections in 24, and we will have election in the European parliament same year. These two locations will define the two fronts in the battle being fought for western civilization today. We hold neither of them, yet we need both. You have two years to get ready, i have to tell it won't be easy, but don't be afraid, just believe in St. John Paul's, the polish pope's, teaching there is no enemy that Christ has not already defeated. So let's go out, and do it. God bless Texas. God bless our friendship. Good luck and goodbye.

I have actually seen and listened to Christian Nationalists who have mentioned that God had a son. But they are all lower echelon message repeaters such as Lauren Chen, one of the Gamergate Laurens. They actually say the name of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, however you will never hear Tucker Carlson say his name except as a mockery of Fauci or AOC. He uses his seeming faith primarily as a sarcastic reference, why is this? I have a schizophrenic theory, because of course I do. I love you too kiwifam.

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Does anyone remember this?

A 2021 April/May video went viral of a man named Yaakov Fauci, in a New York accent, asserting to a Palestinian woman whose house that he has forcibly taken, “If I don’t steal it, someone else is going to steal it.” The video prompted global attention towards the violent dispossession occurring in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of East Jerusalem. Fauci’s candor exposed the blatant ugliness of the forced removals of Palestinians in East Jerusalem, as well as the broader cruelty of the Zionist project that similarly stole homes from Palestinians, expelling and displacing them from 1948 to 1967 up until today to establish the modern state of Israel.

In 1956, 28 Palestinian families settled in the neighbourhood. Those families were part of a wider population of 750,000 forcibly expelled by Zionist militias during the 1948 war - known to Palestinians as the Nakba, or "catastrophe" - from the Arab towns and cities that became Israel. East Jerusalem was administered by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, which governed the West Bank. Jordan had built houses for the 28 Palestinian families in 1956 with the approval of the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA. In the 1960s, the families agreed a deal with the Jordanian government that would make them the owners of the land and houses, receiving official land deeds signed in their names after three years. In return, they would renounce their refugee status.

The forcible evictions prompted protests, which were brutally cracked down on by Israeli authorities, who subsequently attacked Palestinian worshippers at the al-Aqsa Mosque. Well, things escalated from there.

In the brutal escalation of violence which followed, Israeli airstrikes on Gaza killed at least 243 Palestinians, including 66 children. Rockets fired from the besieged Palestinian enclave killed 12 people in Israel. In the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, 29 Palestinians were killed. A ceasefire has now been agreed upon between Israel and Hamas, but the illegal occupation continues in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Palestinians from Sheikh Jarrah still await a delayed verdict on their appeal against forced eviction. Some people on social media have described "Jacob from Long Island" as a blessing to the Palestinian cause, exposing clearly to the world how Palestinians' homes are being taken over by Israeli settlers.

But what shocked Israel far more was that the latest clashes between Israel and the Palestinians have revealed exactly how much the political centre of gravity in both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party has moved on the conflict in recent years. We know how the Republican Party base feel about (((Fellow Whites))). But, as the Democrats in US Congress have become an increasingly diverse body, this has had some serious consequences for US policy toward Israel. In 2021, a record 23% of members of the House and Senate were people of black, Hispanic, Asian/Pacific Islander or Native American heritage, according to a Pew Foundation study. A diversity of backgrounds has led to a wider diversity of viewpoints and a diffusion of power. The influential group of young liberal congresswomen, known informally as "The Squad", includes Palestinian-American Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Somalian refugee Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, for instance.

If the growing diversity in Congress is in part the result of the left-wing progressive movement that elected politicians like Ocasio-Cortez, that progressive movement owes a considerable debt to one man, Vermont democratic socialist Bernie Sanders. In a primary debate with Hillary Clinton, held during a March 2016 outbreak of Hamas rocket attacks on Israel, Sanders spoke directly about the plight of Palestinians - their high unemployment, "decimated houses, decimated healthcare, decimated schools". Since then, Sanders has hardened his condemnations of former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whom he called a "desperate, racist authoritarian". And during the rocket attacks, he penned an opinion column in the New York times that, while pulling no punches, no longer seems a fringe Democratic view. "The fact of the matter is that Israel remains the one sovereign authority in the land of Israel and Palestine," Sanders wrote, "and rather than preparing for peace and justice, it has been entrenching its unequal and undemocratic control."

I believe completely that significant powerful Zionists genuinely came to the conclusion that only Straight White Christian Men support Israel correctly as a majority, and that allowing any other demographic to rule in America actually would hurt Israel too much to contemplate. Progressives just back Palestine too much to be allowed to exist further. However, you can't just let those who are most proud of being Straight White Christian Men be in charge, we know how those folks love their Folk and their dearest Uncle. He did nothing Wrong. I don't even need to say it, you already know in your heart who I mean. And with that, American Politics changed forever. How to draw a circle around Aryan Übermensch without, you know, the baggage?

Christian Nationalism​

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TL;DR: I put this to you, I think Christian Nationalism is a confluence of a completely fake Glow-Op from Israel via some of the News Media to manufacture an America which will continue to support Israel and a scarecrow via another chunk of the News Media designed to fend off White Nationalism by a divide and conquer strategy. I'm reasonably certain that they are predestined by The Powers That Be to defeat Woke ideology. All so Israel can benefit. Then they will be rhetorically dismantled in turn. So the Christian Nationalists refuse, not consciously but instinctively out of disgust, to say the name of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. I believe organic and natural Christians will use His name, and equally that fake literally-Israeli Judeo-Christians will not. I think Christian Nationalists are the latter at the top of their Org Chart. I hope honest Christians don't get suckered in by this fake horseshit.

 

[Breadbassket]

Does everything always come back to Jews?

 

[Iamthatis]

Put the meth pipe down and get some sleep!

 

[CrackPipeCowboy]

What the fuck am I reading OP and why did I have a pre cognitive dream about reading this a week ago. Is this about the elites who proclaim christianity aren't actually Christian, and this is shown by them never talking about Jesus?

 

[mr.moon1488]

Does everything always come back to Jews?

yes

@OP
Edit:
Also, trying to religate Christianity to irrelevance is nothing new. Next Sunday, go to your average boomer protestant "church." At least 95% of the sermon will be some secular feel-goodie story about a basketball team not giving up or something.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

Put the meth pipe down and get some sleep!

You cannot control my ranting, nobody can!

why did I have a pre cognitive dream about reading this a week ago.

I AM IN YOUR WALLS, I LIVE THERE. I COME OUT WHEN YOU ARE ASLEEP.
Also, buy milk. We're out. I got thirsty.

Seriously though, because its probably obvious. I can't have been the first.

Is this about the elites who proclaim christianity aren't actually Christian, and this is shown by them never talking about Jesus?

Yes, I gave a TL;DR and everything.

@OP
Edit:
Also, trying to religate Christianity to irrelevance is nothing new. Next Sunday, go to your average boomer protestant "church." At least 95% of the sermon will be some secular feel-goodie story about a basketball team not giving up or something.

This is actually a good idea for @Null to impliment, @OP should @ the Original Poster of the Thread.

I know, what branch of Christianity isn't pro-Israel and Anti-Christianity-is-Israel today? Christians were supposed to inherit the covenant with God, and regard Jews as lost souls once in God's favor but now without. We were commanded to treat them with pity and help them to see the light. Now we worship them, and praise only their covenant with God now somehow intact given their Deicide?

 

[CrackPipeCowboy]

Also, buy milk. We're out. I got thirsty.

I actually am out of milk. I was the one who drank it all though. Seriously though, give a better non-schizo TLDR. I had a stroke trying to comprehend this.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

I actually am out of milk. I was the one who drank it all though.

I never drink the last glass, I know better than to finish it. Did it feel lighter than it should, I don't know like someone is LIVING IN YOUR WALLS?

Seriously though, give a better non-schizo TLDR. I had a stroke trying to comprehend this.

I'll try to un-schizo the TL;DR, I can't be having fun. I know this.

 

[Distant Ranger]

I think people say Christian instead of Jesus is, as weird as it sounds, it appeals more to the nebulous Christian types. It's like a coalition of Christendom, and no one really gets super denominational. It's that old liberalism of just wanting to get along, even if we can't yknow

Edit: also optics, because saying I'm a Christian is on that line, while saying you follow Jesus Christ is less politically good I guess

 

[Terra Pax]

In 2021, a record 23% of members of the House and Senate were people of black, Hispanic, Asian/Pacific Islander or Native American heritage, according to a Pew Foundation study. A diversity of backgrounds has led to a wider diversity of viewpoints and a diffusion of power. The influential group of young liberal congresswomen, known informally as "The Squad", includes Palestinian-American Rashida Tlaib of Michigan and Somalian refugee Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, for instance.

I believe completely that significant powerful Zionists genuinely came to the conclusion that only Straight White Christian Men support Israel correctly as a majority, and that allowing any other demographic to rule in America actually would hurt Israel too much to contemplate. Progressives just back Palestine too much to be allowed to exist further.

Are we finally addressing this plothole? I always thought it was some pretty shit worldbuilding IMO.

So these Jews, a classic use of the Vizier trope, run everything through the subversion of institutions in white, western nations. There's another race called the Arabs, who they've been warring against and who are their most overt and hostile foe.

But these Jews hate white folks so much, for reasons they never really explained in the show, that they had imported into their controlled areas tonnes of people who hate them. They promoted them, put them into political offices, put them on the television... but they didn't see how this might eventually weaken their control?

Because I remember thinking that this was an incredibly obvious outcome the second I heard it explained to me however many years ago.

I guess that the question going forward is if they still want to destroy the white race through race-mixing and gayness, or if we're going back to a more classic and conventional "we want all of the power" kind of conspiracy?

 

[DumbDude42]

i dont think "christian nationalism" is a real thing in the sense that there's an actual movement that identifies and names itself as such, it's more of a descriptive term made up by hostile media to label certain groups of people they don't like (right wingers who reject the RINO overlords of the republican establishment)

 

[salvuserit]

if(openly_christian_person_does_something_i_dont_like)

person = christian_nationalist

end

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

because they know that jesus wasn't some white nationalist that thought everyone who isn't him should be roped

 

[Syaoran Li]

It's because Christian Nationalists and traditionalist paleocons are the new pawns for the World Economic Forum. They hate TPTB but so does the Woke Left. The corporate bigshots still use wokesters as their unwitting pawns and useful idiots anyway. The same is going to happen to the trads and most of you won't even know it.

The SJW's/Woke Left are starting to falter a bit and guys like Larry Fink and Klaus Schwab have a backup plan for such a scenario.

Since co-opting and secretly controlling their biggest opposition worked frighteningly well the last time when they co-opted the far left in the early 2010's, they are very subtly and slowly doing the same to the far right.

The Woke's Intersectional Leftism provides moral authority for them to hide behind and justify their tyranny, but traditionalist Christianity provides an even stronger moral authority for them to co-opt and hide behind to justify their tyranny.

Either way, you will own nothing and be happy but instead of being a serf who owns nothing to "fight climate change", you will then be a serf who owns nothing to "fight hedonism and degeneracy"

After all, only hedonistic degenerate consoomers would even want to own property instead of the based trad life of a morally austere penniless serf.

Woke is Plan A for the Great Reset, but Christian Nationalism will be Plan B and it's increasingly likely they're going to resort to their new backup plan.

The Antichrist will come to power by deception and he will initially seem Christ-like. But it is a front and even those who are faithful and pious will be initially fooled by him.

 

[gang weeder]

Impressive schizo rant.

 

[murdered meat bag]

it's called The Trinity. whatever else is a catechism issue and most protestants don't have one, or if they do, they don't emphasize it because they go for the big tent Christian thing.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

But these Jews hate white folks so much, for reasons they never really explained in the show, that they had imported into their controlled areas tonnes of people who hate them. They promoted them, put them into political offices, put them on the television... but they didn't see how this might eventually weaken their control?

You missed one of the bonus episodes where they explained their blindness to the future as a sort of PTSD about the past, its required watching unfortunately. That should have been more clear. Something about how since they've never done anything wrong, Goyim just goyim again and again, they've had to switch things up a bit.

i dont think "christian nationalism" is a real thing in the sense that there's an actual movement that identifies and names itself as such, it's more of a descriptive term made up by hostile media to label certain groups of people they don't like (right wingers who reject the RINO overlords of the republican establishment)

if(openly_christian_person_does_something_i_dont_like)

person = christian_nationalist

end

That's what I'm saying, but its a combination of carrot and stick where they've picked a name that people will nod and agree to be a part of. Then once Woke is dead, and Christianity has killed it, it will be defeated in turn. Like some sort of Golem. They give it truth at the start, and then death when they're done with it.

They hate TPTB but so does the Woke Left. The corporate bigshots still use wokesters as their unwitting pawns and useful idiots anyway. The same is going to happen to the trads and most of you won't even know it.

No, we've seen the Black in a MAGA hat.


But truthfully, those who are most certain that they see the propaganda are the sort who are pulled along by it the hardest. Once they most have had to lie about seeing it to friends and family then they learn to humiliatingly lie again-and-again in order to get along and it just becomes a routine. They instinctively just sail along with the message, knowing the flaws or the lies therein. Its frightening how complacent we've become.

The Problem is that they shoot the ones that abandon their cities, their mass markets with housing, in giant spectacles of Children's bodies ripping their bones apart seizing in the flammable CS gas of Mount Carmel Center or murdering your family one-after-another at Ruby Ridge. The police invite the News to come and see for a reason. So, what's the plan? How do we escape the Panopticon of Overpopulation turning us from fully realized humans into permanent man-child bugmen sitting in hive-cities?

The real sheep in my opinion are those contented merely to see the horror — the idea of it — without any inner compulsion to come up with solutions themselves. A domesticated animal, mentally leashed by thoughts of relative superiority like a White Man in the south was contented that he wasn't a Nigger. A proper man wallows in the muck of modernity's problems, he doesn't run from them into mental abstractions. There are no solutions practically today, and that fact must be admitted to. Otherwise we lose our sanity, knowingly lying to ourselves reflexively.

Either way, you will own nothing and be happy but instead of being a serf who owns nothing to "fight climate change", you will then be a serf who owns nothing to "fight hedonism and degeneracy"

After all, only hedonistic degenerate consoomers would even want to own property instead of the based trad life of a morally austere penniless serf.

Woke is Plan A for the Great Reset, but Christian Nationalism will be Plan B and it's increasingly likely they're going to resort to their new backup plan.

The Antichrist will come to power by deception and he will initially seem Christ-like. But it is a front and even those who are faithful and pious will be initially fooled by him.

We are of one mind on this, they create the backup plan and insert it into the opposition to their first plan. The rich and their bankers need to fix the natural limits to their capitalism hitting a global finished expansion size where growth comes now at too high a price, and the economic inputs into the world-wide system are growing in cost making the endeavor impossible to continue even at this level of sophistication. Imperial Overextension, by another name.

Peter Thiel and his Curtis Yarvin are another backup, a Libertine Right to defeat the Authoritative Right based in Florida. I don't think they will be plucked by The Powers That Be into the spotlight, but they may.

Impressive schizo rant.

Thank you fren

 

[AMHOLIO]

I'm ignoring the Israel part because I think someone being behind it is optimistic. Group think, tribalism, and missing the original message are powerful forces on their own. Sorry about that part, OP, but I'll address the rest.

I think it is a lot of people using a bland name type of Christianity, ignoring the big JC because his values weren't as important to what THE PREACHER (busybody) wants to preach. Jesus will only get a shoutout when they want to use him to make a point. Being Christian to them is just slang for being into my values, as there's lots of cherry picking.


I think a big factor is that Jesus was a more peaceful man who, while not backing down from confrontation and standing tall as fuck, aimed to resolve conflicts & be an example of good rather than someone constantly trying to win arguments and dunk on people they dislike. I see parallels with the woke left where the original idea was to promote harmony between groups and have everyone be equal then go into a shitflinging fest of who was at the top and bottom of the oppressed pile, therefore gaining all the power or losing it, respectfully.

Christian Nationalism is almost a secular religion in a sense, as it is a partial reaction to wokeness which basically became a secular religion as well. It's two sides full of frustrated & angry people.

I stole this from another poster but it sums up my thoughts on part of this.

Jesus tended not to make list of enemies, he focused on peacefully preaching and being openly accepting of new followers (with an emphasis on forgiveness, & repenting, & helping others peacefully), not just people who go "HEY HE SAYS WHAT I LIKE!" Christian Nationalism feels like an angry sports group based around dunking on enemies and having group high five sessions (like woke). It's code for "These are my political values with a tiny hint of Christianity that has some solid components but a lot is malleable to attract all Christian sects" IMO.

I don't watch Christian Nationalist services or speakers, do they say much about proselytizing or being a good community member? Or being mindful of God and how we may steer clear of sinning and create better habits to help? I like those parts of Christianity a lot, and I think others do too.


TL; DR: I think OP's got a good idea on the current problem with Christian Nationalism, I just think rich Jews are whipping child slaves or enacting business laws that help them or something.


Edit: Kinda depressed myself. I always thought one of the big staying power of Christianity was based around how accepting that you sin and accepting that you can be forgiven as long as you do your best to follow the path of good. Proselytizing this & building a strong community around it are the two other big factors. I feel like C.N. only covers the strong community aspect - a group of people giving support to each other. I can't say if they're helping the meek out (like old folks, the poor, etc), I don't keep up with them.

I know Christianity is famous for crusades, but many people willingly convert too. Showing humbleness, kindness, & explaining & exemplifying your beliefs is a big thing. I just don't feel that with C.N.. They don't even feel like they're on some gayop crusade to convert, they just came together to teabag people they hate and forgot to do the rest. Religions are no stranger to hypocrisy and cherry picking, but it's a damn shame they pulled out one of the biggest points. I hope they can forgive others within their church at least.