US Why more WA utilities want to remotely control your thermostat - Democrats are now rationing electricity in a state that had the cheapest and most abundant electricity in the country before they invested in renewables.

By Greg Kim
Seattle Times staff reporter
March 23, 2026 at 6:00 am

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High-voltage transmission lines are seen from Newhalem, Whatcom County, in the foothills of the North Cascades. In recent years, utilities across the state — including Seattle City Light, PSE, Snohomish County PUD and Tacoma Power — have introduced one or more “demand response” programs to incentivize customers to shift their electricity use by a few hours. (Karen Ducey / The Seattle Times, 2024)

At 6 p.m. on a recent chilly Tuesday, Jim Sullivan’s thermostat in his Maple Valley home automatically turned down to 60 degrees — not because he set it, but because his utility adjusted it down 4 degrees during a “rush hour” event of high energy demand.

In recent years, utilities across the state — including Seattle City Light, PSE, Snohomish County PUD and Tacoma Power — have introduced one or more “demand response” programs like this that incentivize customers to shift their electricity use by a few hours.

Remotely controlled thermostats like Sullivan’s. Water heaters that warm up before people get home from work. Electric vehicles set to charge at night. Home batteries that supply power to the grid in certain hours. Variable rates for electricity.

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Maple Valley resident Jim Sullivan';s thermostat automatically adjusted to 60 degrees during a recent "rush hour" event, four degrees lower than he had it set. Utilities, facing pressure over rising rates and affordability concerns, are asking customers to help them manage the costs of increasingly expensive spikes by using less at certain times. (Courtesy of Jim Sullivan)

Their proliferation reflects just how thin the margins between supply and demand for power in the Pacific Northwest have become.

For most of the state’s history, Washingtonians never had to be stingy with their electricity use. But Washington’s hydropower dams are “pretty much tapped out.”

Within the broader risk of an energy shortage, there’s another more nuanced story. Both the supply and demand of electricity are getting spikier — the peaks and valleys of usage and generation spreading further apart — and that could upend the economics of delivering power.

Utilities, facing pressure over rising rates and affordability concerns, are asking customers to help them manage the costs of increasingly expensive spikes by using less at certain times.

Demand response programs can’t solve the broader problem of needing more electricity overall, but experts say even small reductions during peaks can significantly reduce costs.

But utilities will have to navigate a tricky balancing act — cutting costs as much as they can without upsetting customers who expect control over their switches.

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Snow builds up on power lines in Burien earlier this month. Utilities are worried about costs surging even higher as the Northwest faces an energy shortage during extreme conditions starting this year, forecast to get significantly worse by 2030. (Ellen M. Banner / The Seattle Times)

Why now?

Energy usage has always spiked in the morning hours before people go to work and in the evening when they come home. But now, more people are heating their homes with electric heat pumps, cooking with induction stoves and charging their vehicles after their commutes. Those can drive not only more overall demand, but higher peaks.

On the other end of the equation, clean energy mandates are replacing the steady hum of greenhouse gas emitting power plants with renewables like wind and solar, often called “intermittent” resources in the utility industry because they come and go.

Making matters worse, peaks in demand can coincide with dips in supply.

Take Martin Luther King Jr. Day weekend in 2024, when millions of homes in the Pacific Northwest turned up the heat all at once during a severe cold snap. More than ever, they used electric heat pumps instead of gas furnaces. At the same time, wind power dropped to a near-standstill, which can often happen during extremely hot or cold high-pressure systems.

The region’s utilities didn’t have the power on hand so they bought it from other places like Canada and the Southwestern United States. With so much competition, prices surged to around $1,000 per megawatt hour, more than 10 times normal levels.

Events like this used to be rare. Not anymore.

Utilities are worried about costs surging even higher as the Northwest faces an energy shortage during extreme conditions starting this year, forecast to get significantly worse by 2030, partly driven by the rapid build-out of data centers.

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How much could it save?

Through programs to reduce demand, Seattle City Light aims to cut its consumption by about 50 megawatts during peak hours, about 2.5% of its maximum load. State laws require investor-owned utilities like Puget Sound Energy to have programs that can reduce peak loads by 10%.

If successful, City Light could theoretically save about $50,000 per hour and PSE $500,000 per hour if those reductions resulted in buying that much less wholesale power during the most expensive periods. Those estimates are under the most extreme conditions and doesn’t include incentivization costs.

Daniel Kirschen, an energy market expert at the University of Washington, said demand response programs can both reduce the power utilities have to buy and lower wholesale electricity prices overall, somewhat dramatically.

Utilities can also potentially avoid or delay building new infrastructure and power generation that sits unused for all but a few days out of the year.

How uncomfortable is it?

Sullivan said he hardly notices the effects of his thermostat adjusting automatically except for a few times a year in the summer when his home gets too hot.

All but two of the 70 people who responded to a recent Seattle Times questionnaire who had tried demand response programs or time-of-use rates said they supported them. The financial incentives were negligible, many said, but they wanted to chip in on sustainability efforts.

“Maybe you can reduce the amount of energy that society needs to generate. And if it means that I might be a little hot some days, OK,” Sullivan said.

Utilities aren’t yet close to getting a critical mass of customers to sign up and stay enrolled. Less than 10% of PSE customers have opted into incentivized programs, less than a fifth of the way to its target.

During a Seattle City Light pilot of a remote thermostat program, people overrode their temperature in about 20% of events, and 15% of people disenrolled altogether, although half were because they moved. The utility said 94% of participants surveyed at the end said they were satisfied or very satisfied.

Tacoma Power said it received very few complaints while it ran a pilot program in 2022 that remotely warmed up people’s water heaters an hour or two before they returned home from their commutes. But a report produced by the utility showed a third of customers who volunteered to participate opted out in the second year.

Setting electric vehicles to charge at night can be one of the most impactful ways for individuals to help the grid, and demand response programs pay customers to do so. But many customers say there aren’t a lot of electricity uses that they can shift to other hours. And low-income people, who are more likely to work in person, may have more trouble making a shift.

That’s one reason Seattle City Light is keeping its time-of-use rates, which will charge different prices for electricity depending on the time, voluntary. Participants will pay 16.7 cents per kilowatt-hour during peak hours between 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. versus 8.4 cents in off-peak hours from midnight to 6 a.m., which a pilot showed could save customers $144 per year compared to normal rates.

Some homeowners who are used to complete control over their appliances are steering clear of these programs altogether.

“I’m sorry, I just don’t want Big Brother or Puget Sound Energy deciding when I should be warm and when I should be cold because they can’t produce enough electricity,” said Alan Smith, a PSE customer in Skagit County.

Voluntary or mandatory

All Sullivan has to do to override his thermostat during “rush hour” events is to hit the up button to increase the temperature. If he didn’t have this ability, it’d be a “nonstarter,” he said.
Control is a delicate issue with demand response programs. Utilities need to know how much they can rely on reduced demand, especially in extreme conditions when both the financial stakes and the temptation to override limits are highest.

In Washington, most demand response programs and time-of-use rates are voluntary and easy to override. That’s not the case everywhere.

In Maryland, where the grid is at greater risk of brownouts and rolling blackouts, participants in one utility’s program are not allowed to override their air conditioner during emergency events and have a limited number of overrides during nonemergency events.

In Benton County, Washington, where two data center campuses are being proposed, all residential customers pay a “demand charge” — a fee based on their highest electricity use during peak hours — and can’t opt out. A Nevada utility is reportedly facing backlash from customers over a similar program.

Kurt Miller, executive director at the nonprofit Northwest Public Power Association, said while demand response works better with more utility control, utilities should be careful about making programs mandatory.

“We do have to know that people are sensitive about how much control a utility has over their stuff,” Miller said.

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But now, more people are heating their homes with electric heat pumps, cooking with induction stoves and charging their vehicles after their commutes.
More than ever, they used electric heat pumps instead of gas furnaces
Reminder that any j*urno or politician who kvetches about this like it's some sort of natural trend is a lying snake, as they have consistently advocated for "electrification" while making non-electric options as difficult & expensive as possible.

Turning around and saying "Oy vey, the very thing we shoved everyone into is now a problem that can only be solved with more taxes & regulations!" is typical leftist "crisis as opportunity".
 
If only we had discovered magic rocks that emit limitless heat to boil water to spin turbines to generate electricity about 80 years ago.
It's Washington. They already discovered that putting a wall across a river gives you unlimited energy, but that wasn't good enough for the woke politicians.
 
The absurdity of this is that lowering your usage means the utility gets less revenue, so they have to raise rates to compensate. If everyone collectively uses less power, the cost of energy doesn’t drop.

This already happened in California where the absurd renewable mandates led to an extremely low amount of energy being used, especially in the daytime. And yet electricity bills are higher than ever.
 
Leftists got extremely angry when they found out how cheap electricity was in the PNW. That's not an exaggeration.

The people who actually run the Democrats really do want you living in unpowered favelas while you work 996s in their factories. You guys are right on the money with that belief.

996 is a Chinese work scheme
9 am to 9 pm 6 days a week
Also its illegal to quit your job
Unemployment is also illegal
 
In Benton County, Washington, where two data center campuses are being proposed, all residential customers pay a “demand charge” — a fee based on their highest electricity use during peak hours — and can’t opt out
and that's why data centers are bad. they don't do shit for the local economy and are subsidized by the residents.

If you dont get the electric company's iot thermostat they can't fuck with your shit. i suppose you can get a 3rd party thing if you really, really need a remote controlled thermostat. But you could also get a programmable non iot one to set the temps rights.
 
If only we had discovered magic rocks that emit limitless heat to boil water to spin turbines to generate electricity about 80 years ago.
Comically, Washington Public Power Supply System canceled four of the five planned nuclear power plants adjacent to the Energy Department’s Hanford site.
 
I need to remind everyone here, the UK tapped into its own people's smart thermostats the first year of the Ukraine/Russian war and locked every thermostat they could to 5C.

You would be absolutely retarded to allow a networked smart thermostat to control your shit after that stunt was pulled.
 
The more I think about it, the more retarded it gets. Even from an energy conservation standpoint it's all pointless. If they actually locked someone's thermostat what do you think the average person would do? They'd plug in space heaters or run the oven full tilt with its door open, using more energy than if they ran their furnace or whatever.
 
and that's why data centers are bad. they don't do shit for the local economy and are subsidized by the residents.

If you dont get the electric company's iot thermostat they can't fuck with your shit. i suppose you can get a 3rd party thing if you really, really need a remote controlled thermostat. But you could also get a programmable non iot one to set the temps rights.
Depending on choice you can also run a local cloud and control your "smart shit" shile firewalling it off from the broader internet entirely, and get in to your own network securely from outside if you wish.

Im a big fan of dumb device >> programmable but offline >> local cloud control with local sensors or feed in public weather data or what have you.

Cloud dependence and allowing access to your home by corpos is a bad idea. My household has 2 non firewalled systems and one is kind of its nature without a choice (it also does not talk to our local internet. Its isolated to its own thing) and the other is basically just waiting for the hardware to die or the cloud it depends on to pull some bullshit. Then ill look into a local cloud only replacement.
 
996 is a Chinese work scheme
9 am to 9 pm 6 days a week
Also its illegal to quit your job
Unemployment is also illegal
Pretty much every job in China have non-compete agreements. You know, shit usually used for engineers and ceos. If you quit one job and get another, there are firms hired to harass the fuck out of people from living your job.

 
Depending on choice you can also run a local cloud and control your "smart shit" shile firewalling it off from the broader internet entirely, and get in to your own network securely from outside if you wish.
wouldn't this require you to build your own thermostat? none of the off-the-shelf iot thermostats i know off let you hook into your own cloud. i'm not a tech guy so maybe you can force your thermostat to connect to your cloud server with networking paths
You should buy those coin operated heating meters they had in the UK, in the 1950's.

Get a feel for the feudal spirit.

they still have pay as you go meters in the uk. you buy an electric pass card at the bodega and swipe the meter for electricity.
 
IMHO It's about Greed and it's about control.

The greed part is as follows. Utilities do NOT want to upgrade their infrastructure, The easiest way to make their profits without upgrading their infrastructure is to regulate their customer base.

The control part is to force their green WOKE ideology for reducing their carbon base footprint. If you believe all of that shit that is...

This is being pushed hard in Commiefornia. ONCE YOU SIGN UP it is almost impossible to sign off of your smart meters.
 
I have Puget Sound Energy (semi self-dox I guess, oh well, I am leaving this commie shithole for a free state soon anyway). Last year they automatically enrolled me in “Flex events”. Now every time it’s either really hot or really cold, they send me an email and text “reminding” me to use less electricity. Then after the event ends, they show how I compared to similar homes. But it’s OK, it’s totally voluntary, there’s no penalty for doing poorly! Yeah, nice try, I know where this is headed. Have fun having to top up your balance in an app just to cook a damn frozen pizza, Washington, unless you forgot to pay to run the freezer that is. You want to be Europoors so badly, well, here you go.
 
wouldn't this require you to build your own thermostat? none of the off-the-shelf iot thermostats i know off let you hook into your own cloud. i'm not a tech guy so maybe you can force your thermostat to connect to your cloud server with networking paths


they still have pay as you go meters in the uk. you buy an electric pass card at the bodega and swipe the meter for electricity.
It might now. Some brands had dev programs giving access but stopped doing so for probably gay corpo reasons. Sprinklers however have an entire open hardware spec and you can buy preassembled. I want to say garage door openers also have an open source spec now but i intend to keep mine stupid.

I would like to see an opensource thermostat system though. Im not a hardware person to really know how hard that would be.

The usa still has tons of pay at end of month electric. The shut off your ac thing is opt in for the moment in most markets, and you simply refuse. Im sure they wannna change that but defeating it as mentioned earlier wouldnt be too hard.
 
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