Why is the modern film industry so derivative?

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Something that's been bothering me for a long time (that I know more people are growing aware of but haven't been able to address the cause of) is the significant decline in artistry in the Western film industry, I've been noticing that films nowadays are either
  • Superhero films
  • Remakes or reboots of IPs
  • A prequel or sequel to an existing franchise
  • A combination of all of the above
I remember growing up there being a lot more film adaptations of books and original stories being released. Now there's so much derivitation and a lot of original films are being made by indie creators or small studios. I feel like there's less book adaptations being made because less and less people are reading for leisure. Hollywood seldomly makes original films anymore and if they do their released are very limited.

What do you think is causing this decline in artistry? I rarely watch anything made after 2010 anymore.
 
From what I understand, English films are now primarily targeted to a non-fluent or non-english speaking audience. This explains the general simplicity of Hollywood blockbusters and emphasis on CGI set pieces.

Sequel / prequel industry is a product of bloat. People in charge who really lack the talent to be incharge of green lighting these things have an excuse if these ever fail by pointing to prior success. They did not waste the money on a whim, it was all calculated. Out of their hands of personal responsibility.

For the most part, the film industry is rife with money laundering and the important people who needed to make their money already have a return on their investment before the product is released.

There is plenty of good media out there, made by talented directors with creative control on shoestring budgets -- it's just a tremendous time investment to filter out the slop.
 
it's not really a new thing tbh, hollywood has been chasing trends and milking them to death since forever

a couple decades ago they just made the same action movie over and over again: stallone/arnold/lundgren/... blowing shit up with big guns, ad nauseam.
they've also been repeatedly churning out the same cringe romcom for many decades.
and currently they're doing the same shitty comic book adaptation on repeat.
 
Greed mostly. The investors and studio heads all want safe guaranteed money, and they all rely on market research to tell them what people want to see. Combine both and you get derivative, bottom of the barrel shit meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
 
it's not really a new thing tbh, hollywood has been chasing trends and milking them to death since forever
It's funny when looking at old silent movies and old talkies to see what was a remake of another movie ot a stage show to screen, and how many times that show had been adapted.


To answer OP's question, it's because a movie is an investment, not an artform. It is a product that has a lot of money invested into it so that it will appeal to the most amount of people in one sitting. If they're lucky they can franchise it for more money, and sell merchandise for even more. Many investors prefer to stick with adding money to safe things that have a lot of mass appeal. This is why you get a lot of the same topics, with the same actors, with the same brands, with the same names as other movies. It's easier to gamble that much money on one big safe project than several smaller projects.

When it comes to smaller products, there's always been a lot of fluff in the indie spheres. It's like video games and books: the more people who can make something, the more you realize some people just... aren't that creative. Or good at what they do. There's also a lot of people who chase trends because they like them and the trend is making money, and films cost a lot of money.
 
it's not really a new thing tbh, hollywood has been chasing trends and milking them to death since forever
Example: within the Golden Age of Hollywood, most movies around the 40s were noir style. In the 50s, the most popular genre then were romantic comedies and musicals. At least back then, you had talent and beauty to look at.
 
Because the genuine creatives got ran out of Hollywood and we are left with the ones that are creatively bankrupt.
 
Shit writers and corporate movie culture.

There are good directors and actors around, so that a lack of talent in those fields is not the issue.

Just look at Dune 2, which is the last biggest movie I really liked, and while the writing is mid and the direction is good, there are so many amazing actors in that. Some of the best performances I have seen in years.
 
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It's a number of things and I completely agree with most of the above answers, though some other factors should be mentioned. After Star Wars appeared, every movie has to be a blockbuster. You got a lot of good movies out of Hollywood between the lifting of the Hays code in 1968 and the time Star Wars came out and to find that quality you have to look at foreign or independent movies. They would never do a character piece or something based on a novel (unless it's also popular fad garbage like Twilight) like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" after Star Wars because it would not bring in hundreds of millions of dollars. Things become formulaic and what worked before will probably work again and all other ideas need to be ignored because they are risky or the dollar amounts are too small even if they are profitable.

This works well for a while in the hands of competent people who know what the majority of people want and who are allowed to work without creative or political restrictions., which is why you still get good films in the 80s, 90s, and even through the 2000s. I can think of several excellent movies from almost any year of those decades. However, Hollywood is always at the forefront of "representation" both in the stories they tell and the production itself. Stories about women, queers, black people, and disabled people have to be told by queers, black people, and disabled people whether or not they can actually write them, and even when the stories involve cisgender, white, straight men, they have to be written and produced by someone else.
 
The death of the video store has a lot to do with it as well. Many lower budget movies would be made straight to VHS or DVD or could expect a much bigger return than the box office.

Streaming services can be much more selective of their slop and offer worse returns. The algorithm is far more brutal and arbitrary than. Shelf space for advertising.

There used to be a culture of people picking up movies multiple times a week. Binging TV shows has cannibalized a part of that market.
There really is less incentive to exploit corners of the market either with quality works or low quality works. It's a homogenized industry. Stuff like YouTube and other forms of entertainment like video games are filling these ecological niches.
 
The men who own the LA circus are few, all know each other, and are definitely risk-averse when it comes to cinema projects. That's why they put committees in charge of output. Thus, superhero epics, remakes, etc.
 
Hollywood has been a cesspool for years, all of the passionate directors and writers died, got old and fat or just complacent narcissistic and lazy. Just look at that dog shit Star Wars trilogy of disneys, there is absolutely no excuse for them to have done such an unfathomably bad job with the most famous film series on the planet yet every aspect of it was bungled in the most retarded of ways. And don't get me started on how insanely lazy the first one that Jar Jar Abrams made which was literally just a reskin of episode 4. Even George Lucas said that shit was just a lazy knockoff for fuck sake.

Don't support any films made my these lazy mainstream hacks, DO go and watch the passion projects and artistic films by directors like Guillermo del Toro and Robert Eggers. THEY know how to make a damn good and beautiful to look at movie and take pride in doing so. Support the artists who actually care and have passion and ignore all of the jaded hacks and Hollywood will be forced to get off its ass and put in the effort again. The only way is to vote with your wallet like always.
 
Greed mostly. The investors and studio heads all want safe guaranteed money, and they all rely on market research to tell them what people want to see. Combine both and you get derivative, bottom of the barrel shit meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
Yes, but what strikes me is that they don't think they might risk bankruptcy if they continue to shit on the viewers, But they might think: "Oh, the government will bail us out, don't worry", but it still a loss. You would still like your company to not end bankrupt or becoming a shell of itself.
 
Yes, but what strikes me is that they don't think they might risk bankruptcy if they continue to shit on the viewers, But they might think: "Oh, the government will bail us out, don't worry", but it still a loss. You would still like your company to not end bankrupt or becoming a shell of itself.

That is where their lack of soul comes in. They are not self made men like the original Hollywood gigants, most of the CEOs in charge nowadays are all nepobabies. They don't actually understand anything, have no people skills outside family connections and rely on "experts" who are similarly all theory no practice to inform them.
 
This works well for a while in the hands of competent people who know what the majority of people want and who are allowed to work without creative or political restrictions., which is why you still get good films in the 80s, 90s, and even through the 2000s.
I miss more experimental films and exploitation genres. We don't get different style movies like: The Crow or Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas or The Watchmen. The 70s and 80s exploitation era films were bad but some in a good way. Dolomite, Teeth, and Silent Night, Deadly Night just to name a few. Nowadays it's pretty much corp slop or art house slop. With a few indies and fan works being good. Mr. In-between on FX being a rare expectation of a break out.
 
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