Culture Why is far-right ideology taking hold in LGBT+ communities?

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While depictions of gay life in films and TV series typically portray LGBT+ people as politically-active progressives, there is a growing swath of LGBT+ conservatives in real-life, some of whom hold far right ideologies — a juxtaposition that often shocks those encountering it for the first time. Indeed, as my ethnographic examinations of the far-right and conspiracy theories have revealed, they do in fact exist — and my findings are corroborated by other researchers in my field. More importantly, this demographic seems to be gaining traction and momentum within certain sectors of the LGBT+ community — both in the United States, Europe, and Australia.

That might seem particularly peculiar given that many of the ideas currently being espoused by the far-right promote racial hierarchies, transphobia, and even anti-gay sentiments. Where do these ideas come from? What underlying conditions were already there for the far-right to use to their advantage? And, most importantly, is there anything that can be done about it? While conservative LGBT+ individuals have always existed, even during the reign of the Nazi party, in an age of increasingly divisive rhetoric these ideas and beliefs have been given new life.

According to a 2020 study conducted by the Williams Institute, approximately 9 million LGBT adults are registered voters, 15% of which are Republican and only 50% are Democrats. Like my recent peer reviewed journal article in Sexualities, some of the findings of this report make sense, while others seem to contradict conventional wisdom about the individuals so studied. For instance, sexual orientation is considered an insignificant part of identity for LGBT+ Republicans, yet 38% of this sample thought being an LGBT was a personal shortcoming. This recent report highlights a significant divide that has existed and persists within the LGBT+ community — whether we have moved beyond the shared experience of marginalization that gave rise to the movement, or if we have entered into a "post-gay" era. However, gay men have played a pivotal role in promoting some of the most discussed topics in conservative politics — including an idea known as "the great replacement" theory.

It may shock readers to learn that a gay French socialite and artist named Renaud Camus coined the "Great Replacement" theory, an idea which has been promoted in far right circles. The gist of the "Great Replacement" is the idea that whites are being replaced at a rate such that they will be the minority by 2050; and moreover, that liberal politicians are attempting to accelerate this "replacement" through liberal immigration policies. Camus has been photographed proudly marching alongside Neo-Nazis, making him an even more bizarre figure than openly gay conservative provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos.

The Great Replacement theory and similar far-right ideas have also been promoted among those who constitute the intellectual dark web — a group of pseudo-intellectuals pushing conservative talking points and anti-science rhetoric. Among those promoting these ideas are Jordan Peterson; gay political commentator Dave Rubin, who if has not directly promoted Great Replacement theory has promoted transphobic and anti-lesbianrhetoric; venture capitalist Peter Thiel; and Sam Harris — all "members" of the Intellectual Dark Web.

For those not familiar with the inner workings of the far right or alt-right, this may seem like a bizarre juxtaposition. Yet the literature on authoritarianism gives us an idea on how one can hold seemingly contradictory beliefs at the same time. In the 1950s, philosopher and sociologist Theodor Adorno and his contemporaries sought to understand if there was something within individuals that could lead them to gravitate towards fascist ideology. Their groundbreaking study identified a number of traits that might push someone towards supporting authoritarian leadership. Of those nine traits, several stick out as important for our discussion here: the belief in rigid (especially gendered) categories; belief that hierarchies are natural and justified; and aggression towards those seeking to transgress boundaries. Some of these traits had already been cultivated by specific subsets of the gay community long before Milo Yiannopoulos, Dave Rubin, or Great Replacement theory were widely known.

Indeed, some of the same ideas about what constitutes beauty within the broader LGBT+ culture mirror what is espoused by far-right figures. This is more than just conjecture and a body of empirical research explores the threads of discrimination within LGBT+ spaces based on gender, race, age, and ability which coalesce and form hierarchies of beauty within gay culture. Most gay men come to realize early on that, within gay culture, there is premium placed on being white, young, physically fit, and attractive by Western European cultural standards. Those who deviate from those cultural expectations are treated as less than — and where one is placed within this hierarchy determines one's access to participate in queer culture. My own work has sought to look at this, and also ask why some gay men choose to date only those at the top of this hierarchy. In my research, I found these men repeated some of the same talking points as those espoused by conservative political figures. These include statements like "I'm only attracted to people of [X] race," or racialized statements in dating profiles, including the all-too-common refrains: "no fats, no femmes, no Asians" and "masc 4 masc."

When Renaud Camus penned the "Great Replacement" theory, he may have merely been expressing opinions which white gay men were using as justifications for holding racist ideologies long before he published his book. Indeed, numerous social media accounts exist that are devoted to exposing racism on gay dating apps — for instance, GrindrWhileBlack, which posts screenshots on both Twitter and Instagram page.

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While the gay and LGBT+ community may seem like an odd place for the seeds of right-wing extremism to take root and sprout, the culture that has been built post-Stonewall is one that has been increasingly commodified and, as such, increasingly exclusive.

An additional mechanism that has allowed far-right ideology to seep into the gay community comes, ironically, from the successes of the gay rights movement in promoting gay marriage. The term post-gay was used initially by Paul Burston, a British News Journalist, who, when interviewed, said he "meant it tongue-in-cheek, not in the way it has been taken recently." The term was later used by several high-profile figures, including an interview with James Collard in Out magazine who used the term to divorce himself from political ideology. In a post-gay era, brought on by the Obergefell v. Hodges decision, they argue that one's sexuality is distinct from one's politics. This was the position of the first elected gay alderman in St. Louis in 2009 when I interviewed him in my role as news reporter, and a sentiment that persists throughout the Democratic and Republican parties. This sentiment, however, has exposed the far-right tendencies that have existed within gay culture.

With far-right extremism on the rise, the spread of these ideas and rhetoric represents a growing threat to the larger LGBT+ community. On the ground, this has played out in a variety of surprising ways — from promotion of QAnon by LGBT+ persons, gay men openly using racial slurs on dating apps, and the general adoption of authoritarian positions which marginalize those at the bottom of the LGBT+ world. In 2016, I witnessed how toxic this had become when lesbian protestors in London gathered to disrupt the London Pride parade and promote transphobic messaging. Here in the United States, we've had parallel developments with gay men promoting ideas that naturalize hierarchies of beauty—claiming that their beauty standards are not socially constructed but natural, and even a product of human evolution.

Outside of these ideas embedded within LGBT+ culture, we have also seen the emergence of formal LGBT+ organizations that support conservative politicians — some formal, some conjoined and made visible through hashtags on social media. These include groups like Gays For Trump and Twinks4Trump — a pseudo-movement started by a Gateway Pundit contributor — in addition to the ones that have existed for decades (i.e. Log Cabin Republicans). In interviews that I have conducted with conservative gay figures, they reiterate that they want to be seen as equal to — not distinct from — their straight counterparts. Many of these men also felt rejection from the larger LGBT+ community, leading them to seek acceptance from others. Feeling rejected, these men found a warm embrace from conservative ideologues — such as when gay influencer Christian Walker, son of former football player and politician Herschel Walker, took to Twitter denouncing Gay Pride festivals; or, former Breitbart employee Milo Yiannopoulos' sensationalized behavior, some of which was directed at the larger LGBT+ community. Such behaviors seem to be the product of trying to appease conservative leaders, even if that means denouncing others like themselves.

In my ethnographic work on gay culture I've met many men who delayed coming out, myself included, because of the "body fascism" or "toxic masculinity" that exists in the gay community. Even if you reject my premise that LGBT+ culture has tendencies which provide fertile ground for far-right ideologies to take hold, surely we can all agree that hiding one's identify because of perceived rejection of one's community is reason enough to change these behaviors. Moreover, in the early epidemic phase of a new virus, monkeypox, that is affecting MSM communities, gay men seem to be clinging onto the hyper-individualism which has proved so harmful to limiting the spread of other diseases like HIV/AIDS and COVID-19. If the LGBT+ community is to survive and thrive, perhaps we need to reconsider the places, spaces, and rhetoric our community draws upon. COVID has given us a remarkable opportunity to reimagine what community looks like and to unravel the root causes of so many problems the LGBT+ community has grappled with for decades.
 
And I'll mock anyone with such a lack of self preservation they'll side with a side who wants to kill them because wokescolds act stupidly and never bother thinking
*Inhale*
THERE IS A THIRD WAY.
Actually, the vast majority of people are not legitimate schitzophrenics who believe that meanie words on a shitposting forum means that they literally want you dead.
 
Actually, the vast majority of people are not legitimate schitzophrenics who believe that meanie words on a shitposting forum means that they literally want you dead.
If it were just meanie words and not "We need to start killing people and here's why", you'd have a point.

But since it's not, well, my point stands.

Also, as I've said before, I WISH I was legit schitzo, because hallucinations would be a lot better than reality right now.
 
And I'll mock anyone with such a lack of self preservation they'll side with a side who wants to kill them because wokescolds act stupidly and never bother thinking
*Inhale*
THERE IS A THIRD WAY.

The RethugliKKKans aren't sending death squads to get you, Meryl Streep.

Stop your drama queening, you're not getting the Oscar.
 
Hey, if every dangerhair wokescold and screehing nitwit bugman college professor is indicative of the non right wing, I say fair game.

But hey, if you want to conflate Big Red or Moviebob with the left, I can play the same cards.

And what's your excuse for thinking every average left winger gives a crap about pronouns and what JK Rowling refferences are in crappy Netflix shows?

I don't think every average left winger gives a crap about pronouns and JK Rowling reference in Netflix wokeshitshows.

I DO, on the other hand, think that every average left winger is just as sick of the woke shit as everybody else, but they're too cowardly and afraid of wokescolding and cancellation by the leftist loonies in their own camp to dare say it out loud.
 
This author thinks that the rhetoric going on today is more divisive THAN HITLERS GERMANY UNDER THE NAZIS. Opinion is discarded and thats before you get into all of the other problems in the article.
 
Maybe because there ARE people wanting to hunt them down on the streets or have the government kill them?


Then how do you feel about people who want you jailed or killed? If it was just being called a Faggot, you'd be correct, but it isn't.
First off, there are gay people who want the evil people within the LGBTQ (which is mainly the political group gays as a whole are these evil people quite often) who push for grooming of children, forcing people to accept their sexuality and worse. I've had plenty of gay people as friends who have had horror stories of the LGBTQ+ gays and more that show the issue of lumping them together. (Let's not mention bug chasing or the whole monkey pox situation that the gay community refused to accept responsibility for)

If gays would keep the groomers and more in check and stop acting like it's not their problem when it is, most of the people angry with the LGBTQ wouldn't have these targeting of the gay community. Simple as, same with BLM and the black community.
And I'll mock anyone with such a lack of self preservation they'll side with a side who wants to kill them because wokescolds act stupidly and never bother thinking
*Inhale*
They're endorsing self preservation by going further right. The more the non-LGBTQ gays join the left, or remain silent to the issues plaguing the LGBTQ the more they too will be blamed should the pendulum swing ever return the other direction. Those getting ahead of the curve are smarter than those still harping on the "But I'm not responsible for the rest of my group." Then you shouldn't have encouraged the group in the first place.
And the wokescolds aren't killing you either, Scott Adams.

But they are trying to kick non whites out of the country.
The wokeoids damage people's well being, black ball people in the workplace which is a form of destroying their life. Can't get a job, white, guess what most social services won't support your ass. Two. They are against illegals flooding whites leading to a literal genocide by UN definition.

Seems the reason people like you are so upset is because you are on board with the left's evil machinations and then wonder why people have a violent resolve against their own "self preservation." Weird how that works. If it comes between a group gencoiding mine and removing that other group, guess what you started it. Stop playing victim when you are encouraging it.

I'd love to read up on your early life section on wikipedia. I get the feeling I already know what it entails.
 
First off, there are gay people who want the evil people within the LGBTQ (which is mainly the political group gays as a whole are these evil people quite often) who push for grooming of children, forcing people to accept their sexuality and worse. I've had plenty of gay people as friends who have had horror stories of the LGBTQ+ gays and more that show the issue of lumping them together. (Let's not mention bug chasing or the whole monkey pox situation that the gay community refused to accept responsibility for)
Bug Chasers was proven to be more a myth or internet sexual fetish than an actual movement. Every time someone sought them out, that's exactly what they found, a bunch of coomers fapping on the other side of the monitor. No real movement.
If gays would keep the groomers and more in check and stop acting like it's not their problem when it is, most of the people angry with the LGBTQ wouldn't have these targeting of the gay community. Simple as, same with BLM and the black community.
And I don't disagree. There's a fuckton of housecleaning to be done.

That doesn't mean they all deserve prison or death, however.

They're endorsing self preservation by going further right.
How does advocating for your own imprisonment and execution further self preservation?
Seems the reason people like you are so upset is because you are on board with the left's evil machinations
I am? Which ones am I on board with, slick? G'head. Tell me what my stances are.
I'd love to read up on your early life section on wikipedia. I get the feeling I already know what it entails.
You do? Enlighten me then, doctor. What the fuck do you THINK it entails. I wanna hear it. Push me over, baby, show me just how evil and how worthy of death I really am, you know you wanna!
 
And the wokescolds aren't killing you either, Scott Adams.

But they are trying to kick non whites out of the country.

Where the hell did you ever see me pissing and moaning about firing squads?

They're trying to kick non citizens out of the country, and as well they should.

You think it's because of racism? Go ahead and ask me if I give two shits if they kick a ginger-haired illegal Irish bogtrotter out of the country.

Go ahead and try me.
 
They're trying to kick non citizens out of the country, and as well they should.
No, they're going for blacks too. Ask @SSj_Ness

Go ahead and ask me if I give two shits if they kick a ginger-haired illegal Irish bogtrotter out of the country.
I don't either.

But not all Hispanics and blacks are illegals.
He's just another neckbeard loser
Well I AM a loser, but I keep myself clean shaven I'll have you know...
 
Bug Chasers was proven to be more a myth or internet sexual fetish than an actual movement. Every time someone sought them out, that's exactly what they found, a bunch of coomers fapping on the other side of the monitor. No real movement.

And I don't disagree. There's a fuckton of housecleaning to be done.

That doesn't mean they all deserve prison or death, however.


How does advocating for your own imprisonment and execution further self preservation?

I am? Which ones am I on board with, slick? G'head. Tell me what my stances are.

You do? Enlighten me then, doctor. What the fuck do you THINK it entails. I wanna hear it.
It's a real thing, and I my longest friendship (13+ years) gay friend had room-mates who were bug chasers. He got the fuck awayfrom them due to how insane they were and he was worried he'd contract something in case they tried to do something to him in his sleep because they were weirdo faggots.

No one said all gay general people deserve death or prison. However, people are weary of a majority of gay people being molested due to their own interactions with groups. I know a few who have no red flags of being groomers or being molested (the victim becomes the monster mentality) but...

No one is advocating for them to be imprisoned or executed. Most right wing people are not going "kill faggo." Most of them are saying these groups have to be responsible for their own house, and if they don't deserve the consequences of being hated for it. Same as whites and White supremacy that every group under the sun constantly bitches and harps about despite a lack of white supremacy anywhere. The extreme play up of victimhood also doesn't earn the group any favors.

I don't care what your stances are, when you think the LGBTQ or gay/etc. people going further right will lead to them executed and imprisoned you are literally parroting false mantras from the left. This is from your own quotes, and even if you deny it, it comes across as the same thing. Look at your claims on "right wingers want to remove minorities." Primarily illegals and most right wingers are fine with white genocide because of being brow beaten with propaganda for generations. The actual victims who maintained most resources handing them over to minority groups who have done nothing but cause issues within these societies. Muh white supremacist though.

That last comment was more joke than serious, but with your inversion in logic I wouldn't be surprised if my joke is more dead on aim than parody.
 
No, they're going for blacks too. Ask @SSj_Ness


I don't either.

But not all Hispanics and blacks are illegals.

Well I AM a loser, but I keep myself clean shaven I'll have you know...

I don't care what color they are- if they're here illegally, they should get kicked out.

Why are you against that? What's the problem?
 
Then how do you feel about people who want you jailed or killed? If it was just being called a Faggot, you'd be correct, but it isn't.

There's a third way ya know. You can reject BOTH.
You're implying the right wing is this nebulous cloud of people who want to stone me to death and who would be able, let alone have the balls, to carry it out. I think they can think whatever the fuck they want about me, all I care about is if they actually will go through with it.

And if I had to, I'd find more in common with your average A&N regular than a twitter tranny, that's for sure.
But they are trying to kick non whites out of the country.
Oh you mean the illegal inmigrants who hate gay people the most? The ones you fellas can't decide if they're left wing or right wing?
Bug Chasers was proven to be more a myth or internet sexual fetish than an actual movement. Every time someone sought them out, that's exactly what they found, a bunch of coomers fapping on the other side of the monitor. No real movement.
Nigger did you do your own research? It only takes a few minutes of searching to find forums and dating stuff related to that shit.
 
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