Culture 'Why I revealed my friends' racist WhatsApp messages' - How to stab your friends in the back and get them expelled from University for jokes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43987148

"It went from crude humour to racial slurs. Awful things were said about rape. Every group was targeted."

Exeter University student Arsalan Motavali is talking about the WhatsApp group he was in with fellow members of the university's law society.

"[The messages] started to get progressively worse after certain people were added."

Five months on and several of them have been expelled after Arsalan's post of their "vile" screen shots went viral.

Speaking to Newsbeat, the 21-year-old said he had no regrets about his decision to go public.

Rewind to November 2017 and Arsalan was a member of a WhatsApp group with other people in the university's Bracton Law Society

But the tone of the messages turned nasty - and Arsalan decided to post some of them to Facebook.

They were shared thousands of times.

"It got too much for me so I just left the group chat and forwarded the messages to some of my [non-university] friends.

"I told them about everything that had happened and they were horrified.

Arsalan's friends advised him to complain to Exeter University, but he says he just didn't get round to it immediately.

"I left it on the back burner for a while because I had essays to write, it was a busy time."

Freedom of speech
The next step was when Arsalan showed the messages to some of his university friends.

He said they were horrified by what they saw: "We talked about going through the university but one of my friends had had a far worse situation and it was a five-month investigation and an outcome that was incredibly vague.

"I've always been a massive advocate of freedom of speech [but] there is also an integrity you need to have as someone who wants to practise in the legal field.

"You should know the consequences of the statements you're making."

As well as being racist, sexist and bigoted, one of the messages targeted someone who'd been stabbed at university.

"Ignorant jokes are one thing, and genuinely appearing to have some form of prejudice towards people of colour is a total other thing."

After the investigation was finished an email was sent to students and staff by university officials.

It explained expulsions, suspensions and other sanctions had been used. But there was no comment on how many people had been expelled.

Arsalan says he thinks the investigation was handled well.

"I believe it was, because what if in the future my kid goes for an interview with a law firm and sits opposite one of those individuals?

"Regardless of how much they say they don't hold those views, those prejudices are still there - I've seen it first hand.

"I don't think I've fixed [the problem] but I feel like a conversation has been opened up."

It's good to know that several students have potentially had their career prospects sodomised because one over-sensitive cunt didn't like the jokes that were being made.
 
"I've always been a massive advocate of freedom of speech [but] there is also an integrity you need to have as someone who wants to practise in the legal field.

"You should know the consequences of the statements you're making."

So not an advocate at all then?
Horror of all horrors, someone said something mean in private about someone who would never find out and thus not be offended? Better contact the thought police right away and tell them to to prepare the rat because Room 101 has two new visitors.
 
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They were in law school and didn't know when to shut the fuck up? Couldn't foresee a serious consequence for saying something inflammatory? I'm pretty sure they weren't going to have much of a career in law anyway.

It was a WhatsApp group set up by students, for students. They should not have been expelled for it.
 
He sounds like that dude who always raises his and in class and pisses everyone off.
 
We can’t have people going around in public making jokes in private among friends that some asshole somewhere will arbitrarily find offensive.
 
"I've always been a massive advocate of freedom of speech [but] there is also an integrity you need to have as someone who wants to practise in the legal field.

"You should know the consequences of the statements you're making."

YOU ARE EITHER FOR OR AGAINST FREE SPEECH MOTHERFUCKER, YOU DON'T GET IT BOTH WAYS.

What the fuck is with these people and trying to act like "oh, I'm totally for the first amendment, but there are things that shouldn't be said!"? This double-speak bullshit is just fucking awful, can these assholes not just up and admit they don't want people saying things they don't like?
 
You know who else was forced to censor their speech and thoughts for fear that their friends and family will turn them in to the thought police? Winston Smith from 1984. In order for Tyranny too succeed, we all need to become good little agents of the panopticon. Sickening how this twat justifies what he did, and how the BBC gives him a platform to do so. These moralizing nitwits cannot see where these sorts of things go.

But don't take my word for. Take the US Supreme Courts word for it. Anthony Kennedy may go down as the man who single handedley saved Western Civilization. He is able to state in just three sentences what pretty much every SJW and European politician is incapable of understanding.

A law that can be directed against speech found offensive to some portion of the public can be turned against minority and dissenting views to the detriment of all. The First Amendment does not entrust that power to the government’s benevolence. Instead, our reliance must be on the substantial safeguards of free and open discussion in a democratic society.
 
I'm sure this spastic will be totally cool with it when the internet finds his collection of furry scat porn and shares it with his friends, right?
 
Ars(e)alan, of course he was the butt of everyone's jokes.

"I'm all for free speech, but-"
I hear this fairly often, it's like a nice shiny beacon that tells me that I've heard all I need to hear. Like a red flag for people who have no clue as to what freeze peach really entails.
 
Lol what a cunt. I cant imagine he will go far in life being known as a backstabbing weenie who fucked over law students.

This. Good luck finding clients as well. If you can't be trusted by your own friends not to sell them out to big brother, good luck being trusted by someone needing a defense attorney or a scummy corporation needing legal work done.
 
This bullshit pisses me off, because you know he only did it to try and get his 15 seconds of fame, and it worked.
 
"Ignorant jokes are one thing, and genuinely appearing to have some form of prejudice towards people of colour is a total other thing."

He'll find out soon enough just how prejudiced people end up when they have to deal with other idiots' massive fuckups every day for a living.
 
This. Good luck finding clients as well. If you can't be trusted by your own friends not to sell them out to big brother, good luck being trusted by someone needing a defense attorney or a scummy corporation needing legal work done.

This is the kind of a-hole that gets away with a mediocre career, unless someone really dedicated wants to follow them around on LinkedIn and keep slamming his employers over the head with past news stories. I'd say he deserves it, but I don't feel outraged enough to do it myself.

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Twitter: @arsalanm_ (formerly @MisterMotavali according to LinkedIn, but no longer valid/used)
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I feel like a conversation has been opened up.

Every fucking shitfuck who tries to ruin a platform says this.

"Oh I know I fucked over someone's career but, ya know, a conversation has opened up."
"I totally threw that guy in jail for false rape accusations, but I feel a conversation has opened up."
"I murdered a man because his penis was in proximity to my nono zone, I feel like a conversation opened up."
"I tried using a livestream and fake numbers to cause an uproar in a game that didn't need it, and got busted for it. But ya know I feel like a conversation opened up."

The only conversations opening up are the ones either mocking or seeing how hard of a dick they can shove in the spiteful cunt's ass in retaliation.
 
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