Why do women hate other women so much? - Discuss why and also give stories.

[Sprig of Parsley]

And for the remarks about violent men, don't forget that the relationtype to mostly likely involve domestic abuse is first lesbian relationships, then heterosexual relationships and last gay relationships. You might want to ask yourself why as you ponder the differences and similarities between men and women.

I've got theories but I think it really says something that while mutual violence is most common in DV cases (and for some goshdarn reason it doesn't really matter who hit first or hardest, the man is most likely going to jail), for unidirectional violence (clear aggressor, passive victim) women dominate at 70 percent of aggressors in such cases. Women are also more likely to use force multipliers towards this end - you know, WEAPONS.

Women also dominate child abuse statistics, with the sole exception of sexual abuse (and they're no slouches there). So, as it turns out, women are actually perfectly capable of being violent monsters, just like men, and yet there's no massive social campaign to tell women in particular "Never hit your husband with a vase" or "Don't beat your kid with a baseball bat".

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

There is always the dodge and laugh. It's super effective.


I think in general we give woman a lot more leeway to act badly. No matter how crazy some women might be, there's always someone somewhere willing to suck up to them. Which also probably why women are a lot more familiar with male deceptive behaviour than men are. This is not something I would ever admit unless I know it's safe to say, because there's a lot of people going very crazy if you suggest that women can act badly. I think one of the few ones professional environments where I was able to talk about this freely was tech support, mainly because it was completely undeniable in our client pool that A. the average female client depended on people telling her how things worked, B made irrational frequent demands ('we're your hosting, I can't tell you how to open your mail program, I don't even know which one you use). I don't think it's bad that we give woman a little more leeway to act badly. I am a chauvenist in that sense and I don't think men and women are the same.

But it's one of the reasons that female-female relationships have more pressure than male-male relationships.

And for the remarks about violent men, don't forget that the relationtype to mostly likely involve domestic abuse is first lesbian relationships, then heterosexual relationships and last gay relationships. You might want to ask yourself why as you ponder the differences and similarities between men and women.



Women are also more neotenous to seem more youthful and attractive, so it isn't just upbringing.

I've got theories but I think it really says something that while mutual violence is most common in DV cases (and for some goshdarn reason it doesn't really matter who hit first or hardest, the man is most likely going to jail), for unidirectional violence (clear aggressor, passive victim) women dominate at 70 percent of aggressors in such cases. Women are also more likely to use force multipliers towards this end - you know, WEAPONS.

Women also dominate child abuse statistics, with the sole exception of sexual abuse (and they're no slouches there). So, as it turns out, women are actually perfectly capable of being violent monsters, just like men, and yet there's no massive social campaign to tell women in particular "Never hit your husband with a vase" or "Don't beat your kid with a baseball bat".

Male - Male relationships are already built on avoiding violence. It's basically a matter of respect. It's not like human males are powerful beasts but it's probably not going to be profitable to just go fighting with another dude.

Women seem to just enjoy fucking with each other in a way that men don't, because it would lead to violence with serious consequences.

To be perfectly honest though people usually get violent and stupid when they've been drinking. I can't really remember ever encountering a man who would beat his wife while he was sober. I know it happens in some backwards communities but certainly not around here.

 

[Caesare]

I've got theories but I think it really says something that while mutual violence is most common in DV cases (and for some goshdarn reason it doesn't really matter who hit first or hardest, the man is most likely going to jail),

In some places, if it's not obvious who the aggressor was in a domestic violence situation, they take everybody to jail.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

In some places, if it's not obvious who the aggressor was in a domestic violence situation, they take everybody to jail.

Some states don't have Primary Aggressor on the books and instead use Mandatory Arrest (which results in a lot of dual arrests). Now, if we were talking about a problem in which it was overwhelmingly the case that the violence was unidirectional, it would be pretty fucking retarded to default to Mandatory Arrest.

But that is absolutely not the case. Majority of DV calls are people beating the shit out of each other or who have beaten the shit out of each other.

 

[SmallTruck]

Because most women are retards that like to Queef and Fart all day, bitching about women that actually are great or do anything meaningful.

 

[Otterly]

Men exert power and form a pecking order with the overt threat of violence.
Women are physically weaker, and can’t do that. So they use psychological violence instead. Women create the social consensus in groups and they do that usually by one of them being a queen bee, with a few Enforcers around her. The weaker members of the group are tested and if they oppose the bee they are squished. Women either fall in line or leave the group.
Decent men don’t hit women, so they don’t really know how to deal with it. Violent men just batter them and nobody really wins there

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Decent men don’t hit women, so they don’t really know how to deal with it. Violent men just batter them and nobody really wins there

Decent men eventually learn that when women fight they all want you to side with them, which you can use to your advantage. Also by giving attention or approval to certain ones in the presence of others it will give you more influence.

You never actually want to side with any of them in a conflict though, because in the end they'll make up and tell each other what you said and you'll wind up being the bad guy.

It may not come as naturally, but I can assure you the modern man has had to deal with enough woman-sourced workplace drama that most have a protocol in place.

 

[Android raptor]

They're taught to hate each other from an early age because it's easier for those in power to maintain the status quo.

Girls who don't abide by gender stereotypes and expectations are targeted particularly harshly.

 

[Kel1 shi1]

Women create the social consensus in groups and they do that usually by one of them being a queen bee, with a few Enforcers around her. The weaker members of the group are tested and if they oppose the bee they are squished. Women either fall in line or leave the group.

I worked in an office and saw this played out every day between 3 women all trying to be the queen bee. They would challenge each other all the time until an "outsider" was perceived to have slighted one of the three in some way and then they would forget their differences and unite to crush the "Outsider" and then carry on fucking over each other over for status.

 

[72diyvirginsuicides]

Misery loves company. Happy women aren't concerned with other women. Miserable women will go out of their way to bully random women so they can feel better abt themselves. Single moms are especially aggressive towards childless women and married mothers.

 

[Otterly]

I worked in an office and saw this played out every day between 3 women all trying to be the queen bee. They would challenge each other all the time until an "outsider" was perceived to have slighted one of the three in some way and then they would forget their differences and unite to crush the "Outsider" and then carry on fucking over each other over for status.

I bought ours a queen bee mug for her birthday. She didn’t get it, and kept trying to drag me into the orbit of drama but it always made me smile seeing her use it.
If you have any nice female Indian colleagues, they will all have mother-in-law stories that’ll make your hair go white. Same dynamic. The women are second class citizens and screwed over when young and they make up for it by ruthless domestic dominance over the next generations women becasue that’s the only way they have power.

Nietzsche would probably have things to say about it

 

[Kel1 shi1]

The women are second class citizens and screwed over when young and they make up for it by ruthless domestic dominance over the next generations women becasue that’s the only way they have power.

When you are at the bottom of the group, just make sure your not actually the lowest ranking. As long as you can point to just one person below you, you're a winner.

 

[Otterly]

When you are at the bottom of the group, just make sure your not actually the lowest ranking. As long as you can point to just one person below you, you're a winner.

It’s sad, because when you meet sensible women who don’t play those games they’re infinitely supportive and good to be around. I don’t think anyone behaves well these days, but maybe I’m just an old lady shouting at clouds

 

[SentinentCloud]

its the hormones

 

[Devious Dave]

I always make fun of women with only guy friends (usually a huge red flag) but I kinda get it women are absolutely brutal to other women

 

[The Schizo Warrior]

If Unga Bunga man sees another Unga Bunga man fucking his wife, he can just kill him. If Unga Bunga woman sees her husband fucking another Unga Bunga woman, she can't kill her. Thus, we've evolved so that men who are with each other are friends, while women who are with each other aren't friends necessarily.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Women are crazy man. One minute sweet as honey, next minute stinging like a bee. Petty drama is how they live. Guys, we give eachother shit, fight, get over it. Personally I like the guy method.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Lesbians are just psychos, all of them.