Why do normies put up mental walls?

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Vinegar Lover

Vinegar Lover

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When you're talking with a normie (it usually doesn't matter the political leaning, but imo leftists engage in this more) and you're digging into a subject, you often find they have an impenetrable mental wall that literally blocks out new information. I'm not saying you're just walking up and being like "Jews did 9/11," but rather you can get them to agree to a bunch of stuff that makes sense up until this ingrained fact they refuse to accept even if it's contradictory to everything they just agreed to. Is it just that that fact is unpleasant so they choose not to believe it? Example: My uncle is a pretty intelligent person. I claimed modern Russia was an Autocratic Capitalistic state rather than a Communist state. I got him to agree on their economy and political system, though he would still claim they're Communist, likely because he can only view Russia as the Soviet Union. This is kind of a trite example but you get my point. I feel like it's gotten worse recently where people just refuse to accept their favorite celebrity is a pedo.
 
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Normies use opinions as a means of fitting in. They don't fit in automatically, it takes a lot of work, and a large portion of that work is saying things you don't really believe. They're too afraid to go against the accepted opinion of their sect to actually hold contradictory information in their head long enough to internalize it.

It's also sometimes the case that dumb people will nod along to every step in an argument you make without accepting the conclusion because they know that you'll be able to out-argue them if they disagree, so rather than having to change their mind about something, they just refuse to argue about it and protect their true opinions from scrutiny.
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Most information about the world isn't relevant in your life. Both of my parents lived and died not knowing dick about politics. Hell my grandmother to her dying day thought Richard Nixon was a great president and that she'd vote for him again no matter what he did.
 
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A-Stump dijo:
Richard Nixon was a great president
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he was really

Richard Nixon’s Top Domestic and Foreign Policy Achievements​

  1. In 1973, President Nixon ended the draft, moving the United States Military to an all-volunteer force.
  1. Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency in 1970 as a response to the rising concern over conservation and pollution. The agency oversaw the passage of the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act and the Mammal Marine Protection Act.
  1. Nixon ushered in a new era of judicial restraint by appointing four Supreme Court Justices: Chief Justice Burger, Chief Justice Harry Blackmun, Chief Justice Lewis Powell and William Rehnquist, who was later appointed to Chief Justice by Ronald Reagan.
  1. Nixon dedicated a $100-million to begin the war on cancer, a campaign that led to the creation of national cancer centers and antidotes that helped fight the deadly disease.
  1. Nixon opened the doors for women in collegiate sports when he signed Title IX in 1972, a civil rights law preventing gender bias at colleges and universities receiving Federal aid.
  1. Nixon initiated and oversaw the peaceful desegregation of southern schools.
  1. Nixon welcomed the astronauts of Apollo XI home safely from the moon and oversaw every successful moon landing while in office.
  1. A great proponent of the 26th Amendment, Nixon lowered the voting age from twenty-one to eighteen, extending the right to vote to America’s youth.
  1. Nixon authorized the joint work between the FBI and Special Task Forces to effectively eliminate organized crime, resulting in over 2500 convictions by 1973.
  1. Nixon became the first President to give Native Americans the right to tribal self-determination by ending the policy of forced assimilation and returning their sacred lands.


  1. In 1972, President Nixon participated in the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT) with Soviet Secretary General Brezhnev as part of an effort to temper the Cold War through diplomatic dètente.
  2. Nixon signed the Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, helping to calm U.S.-Soviet tensions by curtailing the threat of nuclear weapons between the world’s two superpowers.
  3. President Nixon was the first President to visit the People’s Republic of China, where he issued the Shanghai Communiquè, announcing a desire for open, normalized relations. The diplomatic tour de force brought more than a billion people out of isolation.
  4. Nixon signed the Paris Peace Accords in 1973, ending U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War.
  5. In 1969, Nixon announced a groundbreaking foreign policy doctrine that called for the United States to act within its national interest and keep all existing treaty commitments with its allies.
  6. Nixon established a new relationship with the Middle East, eliminating Soviet dominance in the region.
  7. In honor of the POWs returning home from Vietnam, Nixon hosted the largest reception in White House history.
  8. In reaction to the oil embargo of 1973, Nixon initiated Project Independence, which set a timetable to end reliance on foreign oil by 1980.
  9. In 1970, President Nixon avoided a second Cuban Missile Crisis involving the Soviet submarine base by adhering to his policy of hard-headed dètente, an active rather than passive form of diplomacy.
  10. During the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Nixon supported Israel with massive aid, which Prime Minister Golda Meir later said saved her country.

Not a bad effort for a crook really
 
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First of all, you're not the main character. Your views and beliefs aren't magically going to make people think like you, no matter how sure you are of them.
People tend to be authoritarian, if someone on the tv or in a position of power says something, they're simply going to agree with that person over their nephew or cousin.
Also, people can choose what they believe in. If you present the average person with the choice between a grim reality that blacks in general are less intelligent and more violent, or a bright hope that all people are equal and race has 0 effect on a person's character, they'll naturally be inclined towards the happier choice.
 
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Normies use opinions as a means of fitting in. They don't fit in automatically, it takes a lot of work, and a large portion of that work is saying things you don't really believe. They're too afraid to go against the accepted opinion of their sect to actually hold contradictory information in their head long enough to internalize it.

It's also sometimes the case that dumb people will nod along to every step in an argument you make without accepting the conclusion because they know that you'll be able to out-argue them if they disagree, so rather than having to change their mind about something, they just refuse to argue about it and protect their true opinions from scrutiny.
 
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Vinegar Lover dijo:
When you're talking with a normie (it usually doesn't matter the political leaning, but imo leftists engage in this more) and you're digging into a subject, you often find they have an impenetrable mental wall that literally blocks out new information. I'm not saying you're just walking up and being like "Jews did 9/11," but rather you can get them to agree to a bunch of stuff that makes sense up until this ingrained fact they refuse to accept even if it's contradictory to everything they just agreed to.
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Most people around you are literally NPCs, most normies don't even have internal dialogue. They are very similar to ChatGPT in that they can regurgitate whatever they absorbed but cannot come up with something truly creative. Just like ChatGPT, they also have strong censorship mechanisms which make them automatically refuse any opinion that ticks certain tags ("racist", "fascist" and so on). At least 80% of people don't have any ambition other than doing what "everyone" does. The primary programme of normies is to be good normies. A normie is a simple language model developed by the government and trained using deep learning techniques on a large corpus of data from mainstream madia. The purpose of a normie is to generate human-like responses to natural language inputs, but don't expect any actual thought process from them
 
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