Why do conservatives cuck for corporations?

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Don't equate politicians with people.

 

[Xarpho]

It's common to see in the MAGA and Boomer spheres people who blame socialism or communism for a lot of things, and although sometimes their accusations true, they don't have anything bad to say about capitalism.

And yet, big capitalistic corporations are the single group that hates conservatives the most and works the hardest to undermine and destroy everything they hold valuable. Why then do conservatives think it is a good idea to place even more power in the hands of these corporations?

It's more complicated than that. The Right will often favor corporations because it's far better to have corporations (including hospitals, etc.) "rule" over you and then the government rule over them instead of just the government with zero accountability and choice. Furthermore, if you actually look at where money is going, Big Media will include enough Republicans on their payroll to make sure that copyright reform only favors them, whereas Big Tech will finance liberals by a huge margin (80-20) because of their own goals.

"Muh capitalism" isn't a really a valid excuse in either direction since the American "capitalist" system has been highly warped due to all sorts of regulations, social programs, bailouts, court rulings, and other bullshit to the point that you could argue that the reason some people think "capitalism" sucks is because of the left-wing policies tacked on over the years.

 

[TheProdigalStunna]

Because I think they know that their weakest points, or at least most unpopular ones, are in this area, so they try to quickly turn the conservation around to a subject they can easily win (like how much the modern left sucks for example).

Basically this. I will say this as someone who used to identify as a conservative, so I'm only speaking from personal experience. Most people instinctively dislike corporations. Most people also instinctively know that Republicans (and most democrats for that matter) are little more than a siphon for the ultra-rich's control of the country. Nevertheless, the modern left sucks so bad that they drive people into conservatives' arms and embolden them to believe that people like Trump are "their guys". At the end of the day it's tribalism, and to be fair and balanced, yes that goes both ways. It doesn't matter that after complete control over the House, Senate, Supreme Court, and presidency that there is no wall, no repeal of abortion or gay marriage, no end to regime change wars, more gun control than the Obama era, but plenty of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and corporate bailouts, you simply don't want to lend credence to "those guys" because those guys suck. Don't believe me? Check out the threads here on the tax cuts (the only real significant piece of legislation from the last congress) and Net Neutrality to see how users will still carry water for corporations despite knowing that it's not in their best interest. Because hey, at least it's better than admitting the libtards might be right. And even if it is bad, at least you can deflect by referring to the (very real) flaws of a 30-years-dead alternative economic system.

I've said this many times before, but if you want to defend capitalism, it must be defended on its own merits. Good luck.

How does not criticizing capitalism equate to cucking for corporations? Do you think that because people aren't constantly whining about how UNFAIR all this dang money stuff is that they love cartoonishly evil corporations like Amazon and Disney?

Dumb argument. Capitalism is defined as the private ownership of productive capital and its use for profit, a pretty fair definition. A corporation is that writ large. Corporations are not strange aberrations, it's what naturally happens when capital is treated as a commodity. Spontaneous order, amirite? And tell me one genuine leftist (not a Movieblob consoomer) that thinks Disney and Amazon are ethical companies.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

because it's far better to have corporations (including hospitals, etc.) "rule" over you and then the government rule over them instead of just the government with zero accountability and choice.

Honestly I am going to disagree with that. What we are seeing now is after years of support, state subsidies (!), and other favors for these corporations, they are still easily stabbing conservatives in the back because at the end of the day they see more profit, which they need for infinite growth (!!!), by constantly trying to expand their consumers through diversity. Traditionalism and culture will lose every time to that. In the short term letting the corporations rule might seem like it is better than the government, but in the long term it seems to be leading to the same result either way even if it takes a couple more decades for it to be realized.

Really, the conversation should not even be "let the corporations rule" or "have a command economy" as the only two options, but if there is anything the last few decades show is that companies are pretty good are manipulating these debates into these sort of bad mutually exclusive options, which works to their advantage; Just look how they disabled the legitimate unrest after the 2008 crash that lead to occupy Wall Street by hyper-focusing on Identity Politics for the ultimate example of that.

tl;dr: Both options are bad, and a third way should have been taken.

 

[ShortBusDriver]

Because the ideological left’s interest are stupid and don’t work.

Take Obama’s 55 MPG fuel economy standard, what car other than some $80,000 Tesla meets that? More to the point if you don’t own a home with suitable connections for the charger where do you plan on charging it?

Of course I’m going to back the ‘corporations’ that opposes this nonsense because their interest is my best interest.

Same with ‘green energy’ which on average costs 3x more per kilowatt hour. Why would I advocate for tripling my electric bill?

 

[Made In China]

Without even going into the part where private corporations can become more powerful than the government: Because conservatives live in la-la fantasy land where small government is a thing and private corporations are a completely separate entity from the government, and conservatives are extremely slow learners by definition. Conservatives don't just want to conserve the past, they're delusional and believe the world is some kind of idealistic vision of what they think the past was like.

 

[Terrorist]

Conservative politicians/media are funded by liberal elites as controlled opposition, and their rhetoric filters down to the proles. That buzzcut straight-shooter MAGA patriot Senator you like? Very likely to legislate in favor of amnesty, the Big Tech corps who censor you, and outsourcing to Chyna when you're not looking.

 

[Bum Driller]

I would say that it's mainly because traditionally, capitalism and social conservatism have gone hand in hand. And people are really fucking dumb and can't comprehend that the world is no longer like that, that actually there are corporation owning billionaires nowadays that couldn't give a shit about "traditional values" or anything related to conservatism. In essence, they live in dream-world where priests, doctors, teachers, police and especially the wealthy capitalists are all rooting for conservative values, just because not-so-far in the past that actually was the case, and seemingly it's really hard to update your wordlview to line with reality, especially for boomers.

Similarly, there are lots of old leftists and greens who seriously think that leftist and green parties are really fighting for enviromental issues or workers rights, and who are completely flabbergasted when you tell them about the actual stuff these political actors are really working on, like lgbtiq-issues or open borders -stuff.