Why are (((Atheists))) like this?

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Thing is, atheism isn't a belief system.
It's just "I don't believe in god" and that's it, it doesn't come with a set of rules to follow.
Any other belief and behavior of an atheist is a separate thing.
 
Idiotron dijo:
Thing is, atheism isn't a belief system.
It's just "I don't believe in god" and that's it, it doesn't come with a set of rules to follow.
Any other belief and behavior of an atheist is a separate thing.
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Most people who identify as atheists are doing so because they hate traditional religion, usually Christianity in particular. That's the atheist "belief system." People who don't have that aversion to traditional religion will usually say they're agnostic or just say "idk man" or some shit.

It's similar to feminism. If you point out that feminism usually boils down to hating men, they cope and sneed with their dictionary definition "ACKCHYUALLY IT'S ABOUT EQUAL RIGHTS FOR THE SEXES." Okay, but if you go around screaming that as your identity when no one asked, what you're really saying is that you believe the sexes don't have equal rights, and that is really the core of your "feminist" belief system--the belief that wahmen are oppressed by le paytreearkee.

It's the same with atheists. If you go around screaming GOD ISN'T REAL as your identity, what that typically means is that you have some kind of personal hang-up with religion, often this will just boil down to manchildren still being butthurt that mommy and daddy made them go to church when they were growing up.
 
gang weeder dijo:
Most people who identify as atheists are doing so because they hate traditional religion, usually Christianity in particular. That's the atheist "belief system." People who don't have that aversion to traditional religion will usually say they're agnostic or just say "idk man" or some shit.
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NOPE.
Atheism has to do with belief, gnosticism has to do with knowledge.
Being agnostic means "I don't know" and being atheist means "I don't believe".
I haven't seen this argument used in over 10 years, this brings back memories :)
Good try though.
 
Red Diaper Baby:

Smashing Interviews Magazine: David, you’ve said that you’re not a religious person. Were you religious as a child and then became a non-believer later in life?

David Pakman: No. My family was never religious. In Argentina, my mom was part of a sort of a socialist Jewish organization. It was Jewish in terms of community and culture but not a religious organization in any stretch of the imagination, and I didn’t have a bar mitzvah or anything like that. So my family is all equally non-religious.

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But then at the same time he does tweets about Shabbat.

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And his politics in terms of Israel are 180 degrees from his politics anywhere but Israel. Progressive in the US but Luvs him some "fascism" when it comes to Israel.

I think the guy is a pure grifter. He doesn't believe in anything at all. His comments about the shooting were just a lame attempt at throwing out fresh bait for attention.
 
Idiotron dijo:
NOPE.
Atheism has to do with belief, gnosticism has to do with knowledge.
Being agnostic means "I don't know" and being atheist means "I don't believe".
I haven't seen this argument used in over 10 years, this brings back memories :)
Good try though.
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Thanks for proving my point by quoting dictionary definitions at me in response to a post laying out how people use the dictionary definition as a cope to deflect from the actual social meaning of these terms.
 
Idiotron dijo:
NOPE.
Atheism has to do with belief, gnosticism has to do with knowledge.
Being agnostic means "I don't know" and being atheist means "I don't believe".
I haven't seen this argument used in over 10 years, this brings back memories :)
Good try though.
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Most people just identify as atheist or agnostic and some people think those are mutually exclusive. There are a few self-identified "agnostic atheists" and "gnostic atheists," but most people who self-identify as agnostic just don't care one way or the other and most people who identify as atheist or religious really feel certain about there being no God or being God, even if they might not feel certain of one particular religion over another, so usually it's just treated like atheist -> agnostic -> religious even in self-identification. "Agnostic atheist" is the hipster choice, showing that not only do you think God is unlikely, you don't care about Pascal, either, which... well, good, Pascal's reasoning is poor in my opinion, and people should argue for God or against God rather than making these sophistic game-theoretical arguments about trying to force themselves to believe in God or force themselves not to believe in God.
 
Reform Judaism only believe in the Dem party. They are ass blasted by orthodox jews actually having a faith so they take it out by trying to appear like enlightened individuals that actual contribute to the world, while in practicality they only contribute to the elites' foothold.
 
It's a prolonged defiance streak by permanent children against their parents, the spook of traditionalism, and strawman Christianity that hasn't been updated from 2001 onward; nurtured by irony culture and hand-wrenching Pharisee kikes who are eternally angry that their savior hasn't come.

ONLY Christianity, because none of these pussy fucks would say even a 10th of the shit they do to a Jew or a Muslim without flinching and falling over themselves to suck desert cock. It's the religion of the vacuous, hedonistic, and spiritually empty who will whimper on their deathbeds to a God they spent their entire lives debasing and mocking because that big, empty void they were so keen to smirk at in their youth always leaves them in terror at the end.
 
Sorlock dijo:
most people who identify as atheist or religious really feel certain about there being no God or being God
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Most atheists just don't see any evidence for god so they don't believe in god.
When they ask for evidence, religious people tend to say stuff like: : "Look at the world around you, god made that."
They're doing the typical argument from ignorance: "I don't know how this happened... therefore god."
That's not good enough because I could easily make up a being or event and ascribe everything to that.
Sorlock dijo:
"Agnostic atheist" is the hipster choice
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It's the most logical skeptic position.
It means that a person doesn't believe but is open to having their mind changed with sufficient evidence.
However, there is no real evidence other than old books and sophistry, that's why atheists don't believe in god.
 
gang weeder dijo:
Thanks for proving my point by quoting dictionary definitions at me in response to a post laying out how people use the dictionary definition as a cope to deflect from the actual social meaning of these terms.
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You've made a bunch of declarative statements without anything to back them up.
What exactly was I supposed to do?

I could ask you where did you get those beliefs about atheists you hold.
How they're screaming "God isn't real" and how they have mommy and daddy issues.
Where did you get that from?
Twitter?
 
Hyro dijo:
Just the usual effects of twitter on a human brain
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I somewhat agree in that no normal person would publicly declare such a cunty statement unless they thought it would be justified with enough little digital ass pat likes, or cynical exposure RTs as what obviously motivated that comment.

Hes just a cunt, I dont really think it has too much to do with theology or god or anything. You do notice things after a while though.
 
Idiotron dijo:
I could ask you where did you get those beliefs about atheists you hold.
How they're screaming "God isn't real" and how they have mommy and daddy issues.
Where did you get that from?
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Personal observation.

Idiotron dijo:
You've made a bunch of declarative statements without anything to back them up.
What exactly was I supposed to do?
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Maybe anything other than quote dictionary definitions would've been more worthwhile to post? Or just not respond at all if that's all you could contribute.
 
gang weeder dijo:
Most people who identify as atheists are doing so because they hate traditional religion, usually Christianity in particular.
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I think the world would probably (assuming a bit of logical handwaving) be a better place if Christianity were true. I think I comport myself in a generally Christian manner.

The problem is that liking an idea doesn't make it so.
 
Matt Damon dijo:
I think the world would probably (assuming a bit of logical handwaving) be a better place if Christianity were true. I think I comport myself in a generally Christian manner.

The problem is that liking an idea doesn't make it so.
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Why then is it so difficult for atheists to say "yeah I don't really believe in Jesus Christ, but Christians are basically right about everything else?" If this were the case, it would suggest that humans probably evolved to have these beliefs for a functional reason, and so atheists should pretty much just go along with Christianity even if they can't bring themselves to fully believe in it themselves.
 
A lot of these secular, progressive Jews act so highly stereotypical it's comical to witness. Worst, I think quite a few of them do it instinctively, without actual ill intent (yeah I realize that this statement might be controversial, but you cannot convince me Sam Seder, Packman and Sam Harris are all meeting with some Jewish cabal conspiring against the goys), and they don't even realize that it's smells like a Semitic turd to a lot of people, and they'll react.
Another thing they fail to get (and they should) is that actual Christian-heritage Europeans, even if mostly secularized, have more space to mock and criticize Christianity. Jews do not, due to well known historical animosity and conflict, but they act like fellow whites whenever the possibility to shit on Christianity occurs.
Can you Jewish dudes stop being weirdos with this shit, Inquisition and pogroms are over, you're safe, chill your tits and integrate already.
 
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