Who was the worst US President? - In your opinion, who was the worst US President?

Who was the worst US President?

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He isn't at the absolute bottom of the pit, but he's pretty close, so I'm going with Grover Cleveland.

Cleveland was one of those guys who, if you consider the predecessors they had, you can see where he screwed up hard.

His first term took the relatively chill and laidback period he inherited from Chester Arthur (who at least made no major mistakes) and decided that was a great time to be a penny pincher when Arthur realized not throttling the economy was a good idea. His "sound money" stance also pissed off the farmers and Midwest when gold and silver were fighting words economically.

By the time Benjamin Harrison took over, he spent his term basically trying to undo the damage Cleveland did, trying to chart a middle course to calm down the gold and silver factions and tried to straighten out foreign trade with a levelheaded approach to tariffs.

By Cleveland's second term, his insistence on resuming where he first left off torpedoed all that economic groundwork Harrison put in place and caused a recession, not helped by alienating those gold and silver factions Harrison worked hard to keep from clawing each other's faces off, and McKinley had to spend most of his first term resuming where Harrison left off to fix things.
 
Ron /pol/ dijo:
Ignore what a said in the OP, that was mostly bait, but there's nothing wrong with any of those except for maybe the internment camps. Your average hick shouldn't be allowed to own a machine gun, you don't need gold, and had the draft not been enacted at that time the US military would've been even worse against Japan.
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Shut up, r.etard.
 
Flying_with_the_Penguins dijo:
Woodrow Wilson was easily the most authoritarian president in U.S history, so I'd have to go with him.
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More authoritarian than "Now let them enforce it" Jackson?

Save the Loli dijo:
Donald Drumpf of course, that one recent poll said he was the worst!

But really, probably Andrew Johnson. All sorts of corruption, helping to fuck up Reconstruction, and betray Lincoln's legacy. He was so fucking shit the only reason he wasn't impeached was because he had bribed a few senators. Buchanan was just a mediocre president who happened to be president at the absolute worst time, and had a lot less control over the outcome. Andrew Johnson was president at one of the most important times in American history, and utterly and monumentally fucked up despite having ample opportunity not to.

At the rate things are going in this country, in 50 years I wouldn't be surprised if we'll be able to argue that George W. Bush was the worst president in US history.


Hoover was probably autistic. If he were alive today, he'd probably be posting on some engineering/science related forum. The guy's beliefs and policies were extremely rigid in their thinking.

And also for Hoover, go check out what he did during the 1927 Mississippi flood and the aftermath. He made a bunch of promises to the black community, who were a bit concerned by Southern plantation owners bringing back slavery to fix the damage from the flood, and then proceeded to break them. So in part, Hoover helped begin the destruction of a solidly Republican voting bloc and helped lead to blacks mostly voting Democrat.



He was also a hardcore racist even by the standards of his day and segregated the federal government. He also sent over 100,000 men to die in Europe for almost no reason (Zimmerman Telegram was a false flag), in a war that gained Americans nothing, all the while throwing his political opponents in jail or censoring them. Also, Wilsonianism as foreign policy helped lead to a bunch of wars after WWI was over, and was made even worse since the US never even bothered to enforce it. In many ways, he was the prototype of George W. Bush.

The only reason Wilson wasn't actually that bad is because he actually did a lot of good during his term.
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I wouldn't say we got NOTHING out of WW1. Vested interests made a mint selling weapons and supplies to the belligerents helping spur on what would eventually become known as the roaring twenties. It also set the stage for WW2 which would eventually solidify American power over Europe and the world at large. That this was unintentional and/or almost immediately pissed away by the following generations in both cases is beside the point!
 
I despise Carter, though he's definitely not the worst. Just a real mediocrity. Gutless moron who wouldn't stand up to foreign powers who let the Iran hostages twist in the wind, fucked over Rhodesia by trusting the ZANU/ZAPU, gave the Canal back to Panama, worsened the staglation/OPEC oil crisis through his incompetence, and has dedicated the rest of his life to buddying up with as many foreign dictators as he can.

I had the "privilege" of going to his church for a Sunday school lesson as part of a church group. His Sunday school lesson consisted of him rambling about politics, particularly blaming all of his failures on other Presidents, blaming all of North Korea's failures on the US, and rambling about Trump. Even the Democrat teacher who took us, who loves Carter, admitted that he was full of shit.

A disgustingly and completely undeservedly arrogant weasel of a man. The fact that the poll rates him no worse than Reagan is mind-boggling.
 
Sprig of Parsley dijo:
Probably balkanization first anyway.

I was seriously considering putting Alexander Hamilton down instead despite him not being a president, because that piece of shit is why the Supremacy Clause even exists.
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How is the Supremacy Clause a bad thing for average people? Not letting states come up with a bunch of restrictive shit that would be blatantly unconstitutional but getting away with it because they're the STATE instead of the FEDERAL government seems like a good thing to me.
 
ProgKing of the North dijo:
How is the Supremacy Clause a bad thing for average people? Not letting states come up with a bunch of restrictive shit that would be blatantly unconstitutional but getting away with it because they're the STATE instead of the FEDERAL government seems like a good thing to me.
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Because the Fed can choke to death on a bag of fucking dicks, its job should have been mustering an army and not a god-damned thing more. As it turns out the Fed is far more eager to fuck with the Constitution and Bill of Rights than anyone else, and small fucking wonder.
 
kadoink dijo:
Remember the party when he freed the slaves? He didn't free the slaves all over the world, so modern slavery is all his fault.
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He didn't even free the slaves within his own damn nation. There were slaveholding states in the North and they got a free fucking pass. He did the whole emancipation thing to fuck the shit out of the South for having the temerity to say "No, FUCK YOU" when they revolted for the same damn reason the American Revolution happened.

People have this weird fucking modern notion that the North was full of enlightened individuals who all thought slavery was shit. Newsflash, dipshits, the abolitionists were fucking fringe in the North until they became a weapon of political expedience against those uppity fucking Rebs the North had been busy screwing bloody with taxes. Lincoln is quoted as basically saying he would do whatever it took to smash the South's rebellion, and he didn't particularly care whether abolishing slavery was the Right Thing to do or not - only that it would crush the South and win him his gigantic pissing match.
 
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Sprig of Parsley dijo:
He didn't even free the slaves within his own damn nation. There were slaveholding states in the North and they got a free fucking pass. He did the whole emancipation thing to fuck the shit out of the South for having the temerity to say "No, FUCK YOU" when they revolted for the same damn reason the American Revolution happened.
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I know that, you know that. Anyone who takes the time to read a book knows that, you know who doesn't know that? Reddit, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna be reduced to reddit!
 
Anyway for me the worst Presidents are Bush and Obama.

I'm pretty sure that in the annuals of history there's been worse but I wasn't alive when those people were in office so they have no effect on my life.

Bush though is the one who started the slow chipping away at the Constitution for the sake of "national safety" with shit like the Patriot Act and I personally feel his administration's witch hunting of "terrorist sympathizers" and how militant the Religious Right was under his tenure is directly responsible for the current SJW zeitgeist's islamophilia and euphoric hatred of Christianity.

Obama I blame for the current PC zeitgeist's coddling of minorities since the media loved to paint anyone critical of him as racists and he did nothing to discourage this and now the DNC and Far Left have weaponized it against anyone critical of the Party and I will never forgive him for the farce of Obamacare and his "Dear Colleague" letter causing Title IX inquisitions to ramp up.
 
CheezzyMach dijo:
Obama I blame for the current PC zeitgeist's coddling of minorities since the media loved to paint anyone critical of him as racists and he did nothing to discourage this and now the DNC and Far Left have weaponized it against anyone critical of the Party and I will never forgive him for the farce of Obamacare and his "Dear Colleague" letter causing Title IX inquisitions to ramp up.
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Truly, deserving of the "worst president" title.
 
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