White House orders NIH to research trans 'regret' and 'detransition' - The plan is causing deep concern among many researchers and in the LGBTQ+ community.

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The Trump administration has directed the NIH to study the physical and mental health effects of gender transitioning. The treatments can include taking hormones such as testosterone as well as surgeries.
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The Trump administration has ordered the National Institutes of Health to study the physical and mental health effects of undergoing gender transition, according to an internal NIH memo obtained by NPR.

The directive was shared with NPR by two current NIH staffers who did not want to be identified for fear of retribution. It is from acting NIH Director Mark Memoli, and says the NIH must study the impact of "social transition and/or chemical and surgical mutilation" among children who transition. Specifically, the White House wants the NIH to study "regret" and "detransition" among children and adults who have transitioned.

"This is very important to the President and the Secretary," the memo says, referring to President Trump and Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. It adds: "They would like us to have funding announcements within the next six months to get this moving."

The NIH now has to decide the scope and design of the project, how it will be funded, and which researchers will conduct it.

The plan is causing deep concern among many researchers and in the LGBTQ+ community. NPR discussed the memo with some researchers and advocates.

"What they're looking for is a political answer not a scientific one," says Adrian Shanker, who served as deputy assistant secretary for health policy at HHS under President Biden. "That should be an alarm for everyone who cares about the scientific integrity of the National Institutes of Health."

Among the red flags in the directive is the language, Shanker and others say.

"Chemical or surgical mutilation? These are deeply offensive terms," says Harry Barbee, an assistant professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

"This terminology has no place in serious scientific or public health discourse," Barbee says. "The language has been historically used to stigmatize trans people. Even the phrase 'regret' and 'detransition' can be weaponized."

Many researchers say there is already a solid body of evidence that the level of regret after transition and the decision to reverse the transition is very low.

"Regret rates for gender-affirming care are about less than 1%, which is much lower than regret rates for procedures that we see as quite common and that are widely accepted," such as hip replacements, obesity surgeries and even tattoos, says Lindsey Dawson, who directs LGBTQ health policy at KFF, a non-partisan health research group.

Dawson and others say they're not surprised by the directive, given the rhetoric about trans people that Trump used during the campaign and other steps the administration has taken since coming into office. But some researchers and advocates see the demand for this research as cynical, given the administration recently slashed funding for hundreds of studies about important physical and mental health issues facing people in the LGBTQ community, including trans people.

"This is especially concerning given the recent defunding of probably hundreds of NIH-supported studies that focused on trans health," says Brittany Charlton, who directs the LGBTQ Health Center of Excellence at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and has been tracking the funding terminations nationwide. "Having the NIH shift their focus really impedes our ability to actually understand the full picture."

Neither the NIH nor HHS, its parent agency, responded to NPR's requests for comment.

But some people argue that previous research on trans regret and related issues have been poorly done and is outdated.

"We are starting to see much greater numbers of young people who are seeing that they went down the wrong path for them and they're now left with irreversible changes to their body and they no longer identify as transgender," says Evgenia Abbruzzese, the co-founder of the group Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine. "But they are left with these permanent effects."

She adds: "There are a lot of negative impacts of transition. And regret is definitely one of them," she says. "It's a very important area of medicine to study."

Others agree.

"The research on detransition is very useful, it's a very important area," said Michael Biggs, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Oxford. "This is an understudied population to collect systematic data on."

Still, Barbee from Johns Hopkins worries whether high-quality research can be done in the short time period outlined in the memo and how the research will be used. One concern is the results could be used to justify state laws restricting access to trans care.

"I support rigorous, ethically grounded research into all aspects of transgender health, and that includes the experience of detransition," says Barbee. "However, it's imperative that such research be framed in a way that neither pathologizes transition nor undermines the overwhelming evidence showing that gender-affirming care is beneficial and even life-saving for the vast majority of trans people who desire such services."

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Good, there's absolutely been massive amounts of intimidation against any researchers attempting this for years.
 
There's a quote from King of the Hill that always stuck with me.

It comes from the same episode that birthed the phrase "You're not making Christianity better, you're making rock and roll worse." Hank takes Bobby into the garage and shows him a box filled with Beanie Babies, Pokemon, and other shit that used to be popular. When Bobby says he couldn't believe he used to like this stuff, Hank asks him "Do you really want Jesus to end up in this box?"

That's what I think about whenever I see kids trooning out. They're doing it because it's popular and not because it's who they are. Except instead of looking into a box and seeing toys they used to play with, they're looking in a mirror and seeing the body they irreversibly destroyed. They're seeing how they sterilized themselves with hormones or how they'll never breast feed their babies because they had a double mastectomy before they were out of high school. What compounds this problem is how every authority figure in their lives that should've told them no failed to do so. Even if they had sensible parents who believe having a normal kid is more important than having the progressive equivalent of a Prada handbag, they still have teachers and doctors who will go behind their parents' backs to troon them out anyway. And in some states, they'll remove kids from their parents' custody for being against the idea of trooning them out.

But the worst part, the absolute worst part, is what happens after that person sees themselves in the mirror and realizes the horrible mistake they made. That's when they realize nobody's going to help them pick up the pieces. The doctors who sliced off their body parts can't regrow them, their parents can't shove them back in the womb for a do-over, their teachers are nowhere to be found, and the troons they used to hang with want nothing to do with them because they see them as traitors.

TLDR: The people who regret their trooning aren't seeing Jesus in the box, they're seeing a version of themselves they can never go back to.
 
GamerGateSurvivor dijo:
There's a quote from King of the Hill that always stuck with me.

It comes from the same episode that birthed the phrase "You're not making Christianity better, you're making rock and roll worse." Hank takes Bobby into the garage and shows him a box filled with Beanie Babies, Pokemon, and other shit that used to be popular. When Bobby says he couldn't believe he used to like this stuff, Hank asks him "Do you really want Jesus to end up in this box?"

That's what I think about whenever I see kids trooning out. They're doing it because it's popular and not because it's who they are.
Reading that suddenly makes me want to see a similar scene in the revival where now adult bobby takes his son aside, shows him a similar box and says son, do you really want to see your cock in this box? when he's showing signs he intends to troon out

That said nobody should be indulging troons in their lunacy and delusions at all. There is no reason why they shouldn't just be locked up in psych wards for their delusional thinking and self harm threats no differently than you'd do to a delusional schizophrenic
 
"I support rigorous, ethically grounded research into all aspects of transgender health, and that includes the experience of detransition," says Barbee. "However, it's imperative that such research be framed in a way that neither pathologizes transition nor undermines the overwhelming evidence showing that gender-affirming care is beneficial and even life-saving for the vast majority of trans people who desire such services."
If you are transgender, the only treatment is transitioning, socially, medically, or surgically; if you do not transition, you will suffer increasingly intense dysphoria until you commit suicide. Transition or suicide, there is no middle ground. This rule is the cornerstone of troonery. Anything that questions transitioning will therefore result in suicide, and since everyone knows the above rule, anyone who questions transitioning must therefore be deliberately wishing for trans kids to die of suicide, which makes them horrible people. Hence, genocide driven by hate.

This is what troons actually believe. This is the well of their social capital, and they will defend it no matter how much evidence you show them.
 
If you are transgender, the only treatment is transitioning, socially, medically, or surgically; if you do not transition, you will suffer increasingly intense dysphoria until you commit suicide. Transition or suicide, there is no middle ground. This rule is the cornerstone of troonery. Anything that questions transitioning will therefore result in suicide, and since everyone knows the above rule, anyone who questions transitioning must therefore be deliberately wishing for trans kids to die of suicide, which makes them horrible people. Hence, genocide driven by hate.

This is what troons actually believe. This is the well of their social capital, and they will defend it no matter how much evidence you show them.
Among the many problems I have with transgenderism is the idea that you absolutely, positively must medically transition in order to be able to function.

Another point they make a lot is that transgender individuals always existed. But somehow, without fancy-schmancy medical procedures like we have now, they didn't all panic and kill themselves.

My question to those people is, let's say someone waved a magic wand and removed all customer-affirming care, not only from existence, but from memory, and you still consider yourself transgender. What do you do? Do you kill yourself? Do you learn to cope? Do you decide that maybe since your body is the only one you have and you can't alter it in any way that maybe you ought to accept that it is in fact who you are?
 
Among the many problems I have with transgenderism is the idea that you absolutely, positively must medically transition in order to be able to function.

Another point they make a lot is that transgender individuals always existed. But somehow, without fancy-schmancy medical procedures like we have now, they didn't all panic and kill themselves.

My question to those people is, let's say someone waved a magic wand and removed all customer-affirming care, not only from existence, but from memory, and you still consider yourself transgender. What do you do? Do you kill yourself? Do you learn to cope? Do you decide that maybe since your body is the only one you have and you can't alter it in any way that maybe you ought to accept that it is in fact who you are?
That was before Drumpf built his Suicide Ray and fired white supremacy beams into the minds of disabled and neurodivergent transwxmxn of color to make them commit die. Because the souls of dead troons are the only fuel for his secret gold-making machine.
 
I’m getting whiplash at all these sudden changes in talking points.

Weren’t we supposed to TRUST SCIENCE?!
I have realized that to these people Science is not a process but a cudgel to be used against their inferiors.
"Why don't you believe my obviously biased statistics?!"
 
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