White House directs NASA to create time standard for the moon - They'll do anything to avoid abolishing Daylight Saving Time.


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White House directs NASA to create time standard for the moon

WASHINGTON, April 2 (Reuters) - The White House on Tuesday directed NASA to establish a unified standard of time for the moon and other celestial bodies, as the United States aims to set international norms in space amid a growing lunar race among nations and private companies.

The head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), according to a memo seen by Reuters, instructed the space agency to work with other parts of the U.S. government to devise a plan by the end of 2026 for setting what it called a Coordinated Lunar Time (LTC).

The differing gravitational force, and potentially other factors, on the moon and on other celestial bodies change how time unfolds relative to how it is perceived on Earth. Among other things, the LTC would provide a time-keeping benchmark for lunar spacecraft and satellites that require extreme precision for their missions.

"The same clock that we have on Earth would move at a different rate on the moon," Kevin Coggins, NASA's space communications and navigation chief, said in an interview.

OSTP chief Arati Prabhakar's memo said that for a person on the moon, an Earth-based clock would appear to lose on average 58.7 microseconds per Earth-day and come with other periodic variations that would further drift moon time from Earth time.

"Think of the atomic clocks at the U.S. Naval Observatory (in Washington). They're the heartbeat of the nation, synchronizing everything. You're going to want a heartbeat on the moon," Coggins said.

Under its Artemis program, NASA is aiming to send astronaut missions to the moon in the coming years and establish a scientific lunar base that could help set the stage for future missions to Mars. Dozens of companies, spacecraft and countries are involved in the effort.

An OSTP official said that without a unified lunar time standard it would be challenging to ensure that data transfers between spacecraft are secure and that communications between Earth, lunar satellites, bases and astronauts are synchronized.

Discrepancies in time also could lead to errors in mapping and locating positions on or orbiting the moon, the official said.

'HOW DISRUPTIVE'​

"Imagine if the world wasn't syncing their clocks to the same time - how disruptive that might be and how challenging everyday things become," the official said.

On Earth, most clocks and time zones are based on Coordinated Universal Time, or UTC. This internationally recognized standard relies on a vast global network of atomic clocks placed in different locations around the world. They measure changes in the state of atoms and generate an average that ultimately makes up a precise time.

Deployment of atomic clocks on the lunar surface may be needed, according to the OSTP official.

The official also said that as commercial activities expand to the moon, a unified time standard would be essential for coordinating operations, ensuring the reliability of transactions and managing the logistics of lunar commerce.

NASA in January said it has scheduled for September 2026 its first astronaut lunar landing since the end of the Apollo program in the 1970s, with a mission flying four astronauts around the moon and back scheduled for September 2025.

While the United States is the only country to have put astronauts on the moon, others have lunar ambitions. Countries have their eyes on potential mineral resources on the moon, and lunar bases could help support future crewed missions to Mars and elsewhere.

China said last year it aims to put its first astronauts on the moon by 2030. Japan in January became the fifth country to put a spacecraft on the moon. India last year became the first country to land a spacecraft near the unexplored lunar south pole, and it has announced plans to send an astronaut to the moon by 2040.

"U.S. leadership in defining a suitable standard - one that achieves the accuracy and resilience required for operating in the challenging lunar environment - will benefit all spacefaring nations," the OSTP memo stated.

Defining how to implement Coordinated Lunar Time will require international agreements, the memo said, through "existing standards bodies" and among the 36 nations that have signed a pact called the Artemis Accords involving how countries act in space and on the moon. China and Russia, the two main U.S. rivals in space, have not signed the Artemis Accords.

Coordinated Universal Time might influence how Coordinated Lunar Time is implemented, the OSTP official said. The U.N.'s International Telecommunication Union defines Coordinated Universal Time as an international standard.
 
for a person on the moon, an Earth-based clock would appear to lose on average 58.7 microseconds per Earth-day
It takes over a full second for a signal to reach the moon. 59 microseconds per day isn't going to affect communications that operate at Chess By Mail speeds. I just can't see how this could possibly be a problem until we have multiple moon bases spanning the entire moon. Currently we have none. Perhaps we should solve the problem of actually getting there first before we worry about extremely minor discrepancies between imaginary computers.
 
There's an entirely different day/night cycle on the moon.

One of the easiest things to do would be to establish a Earth Standard Time (base it off GMT, or EST for Cape Canaveral, or CST for Houston, or a number of different places for different reasons), have the Moon base operate on this Earth Standard Time until we get something more permanent and livable up and running. Because guess what, humans are still gonna have their awake/sleep schedule, were not gonna magically adapt to the moon's day/night cycle. Like what was already stated; the Moon's day/night cycle is about an Earth month long; you go to bed in the lunar glow, then wake up to a month of absolute darkness. So when's the next time we're gonna see the Earth? Oh that will be YYYYMMDD / JULIAN DATE. You want to cry about the Nuclear clocks that synchronize shit across the globe; find a solution to get a synchronized one onto the moon and have it talk to the ones on Earth, and make sure your idiot fucking Pajeet programmers you're paying $3/hour code a correction for how long it takes for the message to be sent and received.

This "problem" is "big brains" being "big brained." We can't use a simple solution, we need to make it needlessly complicated.
 
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It's a good idea.

I'm just imagining though, the headlines if Trump had done it.

"LUNE-ACY From Head of Space Force"

"Trump wants to conquer the moon!"


"Experts say Lunar Time Zone not necessary."
 
Just use GMT for fuck's sake it doesn't matter because the artificial environment will have artificial circadian rhythms what is fucking wrong with you people.

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Sure we can do this but repealing Daylight savings time is a step too far....
 
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