- Registrado
- 31 de Oct, 2018
These days you don't have to be born one, though!
Where does ‘homosexuality’ come from?
- Iniciador del tema Masta
- Fecha de inicio
-
🇵🇦 Nuestro primer dominio localizado está en español en kiwifarms.pa. Our first localized domain is on Spanish on kiwifarms.pa.
-
Want to keep track of this thread?
Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
Create account
- Registrado
- 15 de Jul, 2016
In your own words and thoughts, where does homosexuality come from?
- Registrado
- 17 de Feb, 2018
True but I mean hot lesbians are alright. Everyone else is disgusting in the alphabet soup of perversion.
Varisi na Vienea Cadence
kiwifarms.net
- Registrado
- 3 de Jun, 2019
It just happens, why do some people like big boobs and others more moderate sizes, it varies from person to person. There are many people from straight christian bible fearing households who have to hide the fact that they are homosexuality out of fear of shame or in some countries their safety. They try to hide it, dating and even marrying someone of the opposite sex but as the years go by they can't hide being who they are and when they come out at last its devastating because the spouse feels like they did something wrong, they are not attractive, that if they tried harder their husband or wife wouldn't have ran off on them. But it isn't their fault at all. If Society would just be more open and accepting, you wouldn't have broken marriages like this. But sadly some people are too busy nosing around in other people's bedrooms instead of minding their own business like they should.
If What Joe and Greg are doing in their bedroom keeps you up at night,they aren't the problem.
If What Joe and Greg are doing in their bedroom keeps you up at night,they aren't the problem.
- Registrado
- 16 de Mayo, 2019
@Lemmingwise I'm not ignoring you, btw. I haven't had time to type up another essay length post lately.
- Registrado
- 29 de Abr, 2019
I sincerely doubt that they would even differentiate, or could truly be labeled "hetero" vs "gay" vs "bisexual". Wolves just want to fuck, what and when they want to. Humans love to label and just stick the "Oh that male wolf stuck his dick in another male wolf, GAY".
Although you are correct about the urination, you seem to be conflating the concept of homosexual and submissive.
How then do you explain the multitude of gay men whose fathers stayed at home? Or, those whose mothers either neglected or abused them?
- Registrado
- 11 de Mar, 2019
In most any gay couple there's a top and a bottom.
That's a power relation.
- Registrado
- 10 de Abr, 2013
Gayness comes from the anus. Hence "gayness in the anus."
1864897514651
kiwifarms.net
- Registrado
- 17 de Mayo, 2017
All temptation comes from the fallen angels. Everything from miserly greed, to vainglory, to aberrosexuality—these mortal sins all have their origin in demonic temptation. The ultimate end of unrepentant homosexuality and all forms of aberrosexuality is the eternal damnation of the human soul, and it is the fallen angels that wish to damn as many human souls as they possibly can out of a pure hatred for the human race. Of course, a human has to freely choose to capitulate to these temptations, but your question only regards their origin.
- Registrado
- 10 de Feb, 2019
A
AF 802
Guest
kiwifarms.net
Autism, a lot of it. That and Europe isn't white.
- Registrado
- 31 de Oct, 2018
- Registrado
- 2 de Feb, 2019
This old talking point really doesn't fly anymore; when gay flags are flown everywhere, from political buildings to zebra paths, when gay prides and gay months are held, when people like crowder are being censored for making jokes about a gay guy who has the word gay in his twittername, when hollywood actors try to use a gay coming out to cover for allegations of minor sex abuse, when laws are changed to make it easier for gay people to donate blood when we know that costs additional medical resources than when they're refused to give blood, we're not talking about what someone does in the privacy in their bedroom.
That argument is about 3 decades out of date.
- Registrado
- 16 de Mayo, 2019
The lesbian couple down the street is not noticed in the same way a cow on twitter is. They act normal, so the news of their existence does not reach as many people.
Old quote, but this is the basis of your stance, right? Promiscuity and the higher rate of pedophilia among gay men are an issue. We agree on this.
Regardless of where anyone stands on the correlation =/= causation argument, both of us are stuck making stances with reasoning that isn’t conclusive. On your end, the assertion that correlation equals causation is a logical fallacy: https://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/cum-hoc/
On my end, I'm giving explanations and speculations but there has not been any research on these issues so they can't be backed up.
I think you are incorrectly blaming homosexuality for promiscuity and pedophilia, when the real culprit is the unfettered male sex drive. Without female influence, gay men become immersed in a hypersexual echo chamber. Promiscuity and pedophilia are both a consequence of this. Therefore, it would be more effective to shame people for being sluts than to shame them for being homosexuals.
There is a lot miscommunication surrounding this topic. This is partly because people often use the term “homosexuals” in its most general sense, when they are in fact only referring to the men. This leads to heavy-handed statements that inadvertently drag lesbians into the picture. I'm not saying this because I'm about to launch into a lecture about gender politics, I just bring this up because it's a relevant observation.
People also have different definitions of homosexuality. We're not all drawing the same distinction between genuine same-sex attraction and lust when talking about relationships.
This is what I don't think homosexuality is: If anyone, heterosexuals included, are pushed into needing sexual release badly enough, then they’ll succumb to fucking just about anything or anyone- including a sex that they wouldn’t initially be attracted to. There is no romance or love in these situations. Only animal instinct. This isn’t real attraction.
This is what I do think it is: Homosexuality is inescapable. Not only is there a clear attraction to the same sex, but bonding with a partner comes with an intense emotional connection that is unique to romantic relationships. At least, I assume that bond is the thing most people are referring to when they talk about feelings of romance or love. A real gay person not only experiences homosexual attraction, but is only capable of experiencing that bond with the same sex.
I’m curious what your definition is.
---
(Side note: My requirement of an emotional bond in the definition of homosexuality could be used to argue against the legitimacy of several instances of homosexuality in animals. This is a fair argument. Analysis of this topic is a rabbit hole because the term “homosexuality” is applied in the context of observed courtship, sexual, pairing, and parenting behaviors. Even when these four things are not always occurring together.)
--
The problem with MY definition is that I’m not a man. I don’t know if they count emotional connection as a necessity in their relationships. I often get the impression that their “relationships” are just sex with no emotional significance. It also might depend on the individual. I’ve seen evidence of both, so I’m guessing that the higher sex drive makes it more difficult to discern between romance and lust. For this, I’m grateful that I’m not a homosexual man. My dating pool isn’t great, but at least the promiscuity issue isn’t as bad.
This leads into the pedophilia topic. I didn’t mean to avoid it. I should have been clearer about how my previous comments were related.
I think LGBT's ever expanding umbrella, combined with its immunity to criticism creates a shield that is easy for just about anyone to pick up. I think pedophiles abuse this shield, even when they are not really homosexuals.
This does not mean I don't understand that there is supposedly a higher ratio of pedophilia within the homosexual population. However, the constant between pedophilia in heterosexuals and homosexuals is that it is a crime that is almost exclusive to men. I think the higher ratio in gay men occurs because heterosexuals with pedophilic tendencies face more pressure to not act on these desires. Still, let's not pretend like their porn doesn't entertain the thought in its most borderline legality.
(But wait, doesn’t the situation with the Catholic church contradicts this?)
Yes. Just as too much freedom with sex drive is harmful, total repression is an issue as well.
Sexual abuse is always a problem when religious authorities are given power over children. It happens to both genders (see the mormon church) but many of the homosexual instances occur in boys's institutions- where girls aren't allowed and the clergymen only have access to boys.
Going back to my earlier statement about desperation leading to indiscriminate fucking: What do you think happens when you put prepubescent boys at the disposal of celibate, sexually frustrated men? Does this mean the clergymen are homosexuals? Or are their actions based on animal instinct?
Última edición:
- Registrado
- 2 de Feb, 2019
I am going to reply fully later, but I just want to put this illustration here before I lose it.
- Registrado
- 13 de Dic, 2016
I gagged reading this, holy fuck.
- Registrado
- 1 de Sep, 2018
I kinda side with you in the definition and on the whole causality and reason for pedophilia among men due to somehting an old bud of mine told me. He studied philosphy in college and he had to go through ancient Greece in the first couple of years in extreme detail. And as you know, ancient Greece was filled with homosexuals... Or so we are told.
In his words he told me that if you were a commoner and you were openly homosexual you could expect that other commoners would gut you like a pig in a dark alleway of the polis and no one would give a shit. Meanwhile, the aristocracy and the powerful were usually the ones that went full homo because they considered "more free than the plebeians" and therefore were allowed by their morals to engage in all sorts of acts, which many times led to what you described: they let themselves to be overcome with lust or desire to go further into sexual experiences, more or less like Dorian Gray in the novel.
But that's not to say that there weren't relationships like you said, were a man developed feelings for another. In this case, the Spartans were in that side since warrior's camaraderie sometimes led to men bonding to an extremely deep level and then eventually developing a relationship. We got both examples in the same setting and we can see that homosexuality can vary a lot depending on the enviroment and the drive.
Which leads to the emotional component of the relationship and since i'm a man, i can help you with that. In my short and disasterous experience in romance i can say that for men the emotional component in a relationship is not necessary. Physical attraction is usually the main thing that matters for many and what usually drive a lot of men to take the iniciative when approaching a woman. You might now think "What a bunch of shallow pricks" but you can't deny many people judge books by their cover. But still, if you truly want a relationship to last you look for the emotional part, and those who want it that way tend to look hard for it. Reminds me of a quote i read saying "Men use love to get sex and women use sex to get love". Not awfully far from reality imo, but i can only speak from my side.
As for sexual repression, it depends how it is managed. The thing is that most religious people don't engage in any relieving activity for that matters, and therefore they will eventually be unable to control their desire and act upon it. The thing is that catholic clergy think that sexual repression is a good thing following the whole "man has to be stronger than his desires" thing and therefore they consider it a sign of virtue to not act upon it. The bad thing is that you have to act upon it or eventually fuck up big time. Like an old man i met a few days ago told me: I don't understand Catholics because rabbis can marry, imams can marry but priests cannot. And one day one of this 40 year old men will look at a beautiful 23 year old woman in church and think "What have i done denying myself?" and realize that there is something missing in their lives.
Sometimes it only boils down to sex, but some other times it goes beyond that. Maybe the desire for a family, not being alone or want to make someone very important happy. But overall, people are fucking complicated.