Where does ‘homosexuality’ come from?

[Guardian G.I.]

In Russia and many other post-Soviet states, many people think it's possible to become gay through some sort of social contagion, especially during childhood and puberty. Thus we have all that scaremongering about "gay propaganda" and how gays would destroy society by turning children gay. This is a very stupid idea. If people's sexuality had formed only through exposure to "proper" sexual expressions, homosexuality wouldn't have existed in the first place, particularly in big, fanatically anti-gay societies. And since it does exist against all odds, assuming someone can turn gay by looking at gay people or through sexual contact (rape, etc) basically implies that homosexuality is inherently more attractive than heterosexuality, which is obvious bullshit indicating someone is deep in the closet. Alternatively, it implies that all people are bisexual, which is also extremely unlikely - if everyone could experience same-sex attraction, empathy would remove most (if not all) homophobia and we would have a completely different society and culture. Furthermore, there are hardwired biological interlocks preventing changing sexual orientation, for example straight men automatically feel disgusted seeing two men kissing, regardless of their altitude to gay people. There would likely be no such things if everyone were bisexual or could simply turn gay on the drop of a hat.

More inclined to think homosexuality or a notable tendency towards it is the result of in utero hormonal fuckery resulting from stress on the mother during pregnancy and/or some as-of-yet unknown quirk that tends to crop up in second, third, fourth etc. babies.

This is the most likely reason.
When my mum was pregnant, she and my dad were practically unemployed (post-Soviet economic collapse and all that). She was extremely worried all the time about how the hell she would feed me and buy all necessary things. I ended up being bi. No absent father, no sexual abuse, no gay relatives or close people, no looking at gay people kissing or whatever.

 

[HolocaustDenier]

A Gay is created when a pedo touches a kid

 

[Idiotron]

Nature isn't perfect, mistakes happen all the time.
I've got bone density slightly below that of an average guy, some other dude wants to get assraped.

I start to doubt the existence of sexuality when I see people becoming gay in prison or gay as part of some fad.

Those people in prison were probably gay all along and prison made them drop their act.
The fad thing? People ate Tide Pods as part of a fad so a homo-fad isn't that weird.

 

[Sprig of Parsley]

Those people in prison were probably gay all along and prison made them drop their act.
The fad thing? People ate Tide Pods as part of a fad so a homo-fad isn't that weird.

Jailhouse is a thing. Whether it happens because they actually weren't 100 percent straight to begin with or whether they're telling themselves "any port in a storm" the whole time, I couldn't say as I thankfully have zero experience with prisons.

 

[Polystyrene Glioblastoma]

I believe having a shitty father figure causes homosexuality, mostly. It's something you can be predisposed to genetically. Social hierarchy in schools may play a role as well. There's also the issue of molestation which may cause someone to question their sexuality.

 

[Professional iPad Hoarder]

1. Daddy leaves
2. Male affection is scarce
3. Scarce things are more valuable
4. Single mothers are overbearing
5. Female affection is overabundant
6. Overabundant things are less valuable

boom, ur gay

Damn, this describes so many people that I know

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I'm inclined to believe at least some aspect of it is genetic. I'm a bisexual with a heavier preference for men, yet I wasn't sexually abused at any point and I have two hetero parents who have a very healthy relationship both with each other and me. Yet a year and a half ago I was diagnosed with Asperger's. And that got me thinking.

It could be possible that being on the autistic spectrum or other similar mental handicaps makes one more susceptible to sexual deviance, like how someone can be more predisposed to alcoholism, specific drug addictions or even food addictions like carbs and sugars. You could go your whole life without knowing you have such things because you've never tried them and therefore triggered the addiction, and a similar principle could be said for homosexuality, which has become far more normalized and accepted which means more exposure.

Now am I saying ALL homosexuals are on the spectrum? Of course not, there's other factors that could cause it as already discussed. But it's nonetheless something of note, especially when you realize a lot of the furry fandom, most of which "just happen" to be gay, also "just happen" to be on the spectrum one way or another.

 

[QWXXP Surprise!]

I always wondered if it was mother nature's way of getting people (or animals) to not overpopulate, so some are born not sexually attracted to the opposite sex.
Like a sort of built-in birth control mechanism.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Ways you catch the gay:
1) You're born with a mind like a woman, but not enough to be a tranny.
2) You're born with a hyper-masculine mind where you can't distinguish between valid and invalid sexual targets.
3) You're molested by a man.
4) You're coddled by your mom too much.

A lot of trannies would have just been sodomites in the past.

 

[An Account]

Homosexuality results from the consumption of contaminated tap water. You need to purchase a specialized filtration system to guarantee your sexual safety.

 

[God of Nothing]

External stimulation in childhood relating to men and/or masculinity or brainchemistry, which somewhat relates to the stimulation. I don't think having a gay fetish is that much different from being gay. Think that's where most of my attraction to men comes from. Being surrounded by the women of my family also probably had a hand in it: guys seemed much more appealing and less demanding to be around.

Overall, human sexuality is fucking weird. You have people who want to fuck objects, don't have any sex drive at all, people who want to fuck everything, lesbians who get turned on by gay sex somehow, gays being turned on by lesbian sex, and lesbians who don't like men but are turned on by the thought of being impregnated.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

i'm a fag myself, and if I had to guess why, it'd probably have to do with the people I spent most of my time with when I was younger, which just so happened to be a handful of gay friends. Maybe they influenced me, idk.

Addendum: I'm a furry, those friends were furries. Coincidence? I dunno. Although I do think that being in communities that have a bunch of gays in them increases your chance of being gayified.

Addendum 2: yikes, people dont like this. I'm just givin my experience with it and hoping to answer the question.

Let me guess; no romantic experience irl, asocial, played games constantly, and the second you started acting gay you got a lot of attention and started jerking it to the idea? People are rating you as such because it's a given to furries. More or less the same case with me, which is why I'm of the belief that I more or less chose to be bi/pan/whatever. I acted like a gay kid in my teens and made friends and fun out of it, and as I realized sex is exhausting and full of human fluids, I got comfortable with the male aspect to that as well.

Since then, every younger furry I've met with a forced lisp and "Orh myu gaaawd~" behavior clearly decided to not be straight the same. Whenever they finally met with a furry friend or got a dildo, there was nothing natural about their reaction or interest herein. It's not "I wanna fit daddy's big tool in me~", it's "well it's how gays have sex so I should get familiar with it". Isn't the whole idea behind sex to be a natural reaction to being attracted to someone, not just deal with it, especially when your personality and your fandom of choice is based on sex and relationships?

Someone on here once wrote that in these fandoms people don't treat each other as friends but the beginning of a full romantic relationship. It can always be rev'd up to flirting and then RPing or sending pics and whatever. This is how furries behave, and no kid is safe from that kind of influence. On one hand it's good that sexuality is discussed and explored instead of assuming you're straight, but this is borderline predatory grooming. Mental 'rape' and the following rape victim rationalization of "guess this is me now".

 

[Lemmingwise]

2) You're born with a hyper-masculine mind where you can't distinguish between valid and invalid sexual targets.

Masculine sexuality is more sex prefferential than feminine sexuality.

 

[2.D.]

Let me guess; no romantic experience irl, asocial, played games constantly, and the second you started acting gay you got a lot of attention and started jerking it to the idea?

I've had romantic experience, I'm semi-social, I do play games often, and I never really act(ed) gay.

Since then, every younger furry I've met with a forced lisp and "Orh myu gaaawd~" behavior clearly decided to not be straight the same. Whenever they finally met with a furry friend or got a dildo, there was nothing natural about their reaction or interest herein. It's not "I wanna fit daddy's big tool in me~", it's "well it's how gays have sex so I should get familiar with it". Isn't the whole idea behind sex to be a natural reaction to being attracted to someone, not just deal with it, especially when your personality and your fandom of choice is based on sex and relationships?

Not the same for me, really. Furries infected me with the gay, but I didn't and still don't have any regrets or hesitation. Maybe its faggot stockholm syndrome, idk.

Someone on here once wrote that in these fandoms people don't treat each other as friends but the beginning of a full romantic relationship. It can always be rev'd up to flirting and then RPing or sending pics and whatever.

That's a fact. Most furries who I became friendly with, just casually friendly with, immediately thought of me as a pseudo-boyfriend. They also have some sort of unspoken rule that if someone's shittalking furries, then you have to sperg about it and defend them. Some furry with a porn avatar went on a tirade about how I wasn't a "real furry" for saying "see you there bud" to a guy who said "yiff in hell furfag" after I killed him in tf2. Good times.

This is how furries behave, and no kid is safe from that kind of influence. On one hand it's good that sexuality is discussed and explored instead of assuming you're straight, but this is borderline predatory grooming. Mental 'rape' and the following rape victim rationalization of "guess this is me now".

Furries are on a spectrum IMO. The autism spectrum, but also a separate one just based off of degeneracy. On one end, you have people like me who are pretty passive and know that what they do and like is fucking weird, but can play it off as a joke and overall be a bearable person. On the other hand, you have people like the TF2 sperg who set their avatars to degeneracy and try to gatekeep degeneracy.
/powerlevel

 

[Surf and TERF]

I think about this a lot because 1) I'm a fag and 2) I've spent a lot of time trying not to be one.

Research on homosexuality hasn't been conducted in a professional manner until recent years and even now it is vulnerable to bias. In the past, almost all research available on this topic was limited to corrupted and dehumanizing tests performed on men, with the intention of curing an ailment. Lesbians were never a subject of interest and nobody seemed to comprehend that they existed at all.

More inclined to think homosexuality or a notable tendency towards it is the result of in utero hormonal fuckery resulting from stress on the mother during pregnancy and/or some as-of-yet unknown quirk that tends to crop up in second, third, fourth etc. babies.

I'm taking this as a reference to Günter Dörner's experiements. He created rats with homosexual mating behaviors by manipulating their sex hormones at birth. The females were treated with androgens and the males were castrated.

Spoiler: why that matters

The hypothalamus is associated with sexual behavior, and it is likely that the hypothalamus is influenced by prenatal hormones. The main hormones concerned in this case are androgens (male sex hormones) and estradiol (the primary female sex hormone). There is also an enzyme called aromatase which is responsible for the biosynthesis of estrogens. In regard to fetuses, there is a theory that testosterone (an androgen) typically binds to androgen receptors and triggers male typical development. In order for certain effects of testosterone to work, it must be converted to estradiol. The resulting estradiol will then bind to estrogen receptors, which trigger the hormone’s organizing effects. The importance of aromatase conversion varies among species.

The rats in this test were considered to be a model for human homosexuality because, at birth, they are still at a stage of development that is typical of unborn humans. Homosexual tendencies continued to appear when the experiment was repeated on hamsters, ferrets, pigs, and zebra finches.

I personally think this is one of the most conclusive studies there are. However, I only read about this as a hobby so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

This is how it started, eons ago:

Spoiler

 

[The Estatist]

Ways you catch the gay:
1) You're born with a mind like a woman, but not enough to be a tranny.
2) You're born with a hyper-masculine mind where you can't distinguish between valid and invalid sexual targets.
3) You're molested by a man.
4) You're coddled by your mom too much.

A lot of trannies would have just been sodomites in the past.

Plenty of trannies are really just overall straight men who just have a fantasy or two about having a female body due to fetishizing it absent of its role in reproduction.

Anyway, the easiest counter to the Born Dis Weigh narrative is to just point that after so many years, there's an absence of fag animals in the wild (read: not just in situational situation ala prison violation).

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Probably some as-yet undiscovered virus like toxoplasmosis that you get from leeking the anoos and eating da poo poo of a chomo.

 

[Surf and TERF]

Anyway, the easiest counter to the Born Dis Weigh narrative is to just point that after so many years, there's an absence of fag animals in the wild (read: not just in situational situation ala prison violation).

I’m on board with you about suspecting some mtf trans people of being nothing more than fetishists. (Yaniv comes to mind.) But there’s no absence of homosexuality in the wild. There are written accounts of it going as far back as ancient Greece.

Biological Exuberance documents instances of homosexuality in over 450 species. This includes wild animals that could choose between male and female partners.

Unless you’re using the word fag to exclusively reference trans people here, then your statement carries a little more weight. The book has examples of that as well, but not nearly as many.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I’m on board with you about suspecting some mtf trans people of being nothing more than fetishists. (Yaniv comes to mind.) But there’s no absence of homosexuality in the wild. There are written accounts of it going as far back as ancient Greece.

Biological Exuberance documents instances of homosexuality in over 450 species. This includes wild animals that could choose between male and female partners.

Unless I’m mistaken and you’re using the word fag to exclusively reference trans people here, then your statement carries a little more weight. The book has examples of that as well, but not nearly as many.

I thought the frogs went gay because they couldn't buy water filters?