When Is It Too Late To Change Your Life Around?

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When you are 25 years old.
When you are in your teenage years or early 20s, it’s easier to fix yourself up and recover from a horrible mistake. But when you reach your mid-20s, if you do horrible shit, you fucked yourself over.
For example, Chris Chan, he had so much time to fix himself but by 2007, he reached a point to where he cannot be helped whatsoever.
 
MercyfulDiamond dijo:
When you are 25 years old.
When you are in your teenage years or early 20s, it’s easier to fix yourself up and recover from a horrible mistake. But when you reach your mid-20s, if you do horrible shit, you fucked yourself over.
For example, Chris Chan, he had so much time to fix himself but by 2007, he reached a point to where he cannot be helped whatsoever.
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So would you say 25 is your "point of no return" or it's the last year that you can attempt change?
Chris is a bit of an extreme example because while he was pretty far-gone by 2007, I'd say the a-logs, catphishers and general lack of trolls' remorse by the internet at the time was probably the perfect storm for not helping things either. Chris to be is the perfect comic-tragedy of how several extreme factors weighing in on someone from a young age can completely fuck up their chances at a normal life. Chris having autism at the time he did with the parents he did with the internet being the way it was was only going to go a certain way.
 
(((I am NOT a jew))) dijo:
last year that you can attempt change
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Exactly that. Chris Chan had the chance in 2007 to change his way after the ED article on him, but he didn’t. Instead we got a 14 year long journey of him getting trolled by speds. Because he was so easily gullible, after the trolls got to him post-ED article, (2008-onward) there was zero way he would ever get better, and this was even way back way before the Idea Guys destroyed any sense of reality he had left.
 
A neoliberal system was put in place to give people an existential crisis about their life and have them constantly try to find dopamine. Even if they check the boxes in what they do in life they don't really feel that fulfilled, rather lonely in a materialistic world with odds against them. No matter how deep in the pit the person is, they can always retreat in the wilderness as long as they could to refresh their mind. I don't feel it's too late because our neoliberal society doesn't give a shit about us anyways, so living a more primitive and spiritual life keeps us mellow over questions like this.
 
Lunar Eclipse Paradox dijo:
A neoliberal system was put in place to give people an existential crisis about their life and have them constantly try to find dopamine. Even if they check the boxes in what they do in life they don't really feel that fulfilled, rather lonely in a materialistic world with odds against them. No matter how deep in the pit the person is, they can always retreat in the wilderness as long as they could to refresh their mind. I don't feel it's too late because our neoliberal society doesn't give a shit about us anyways, so living a more primitive and spiritual life keeps us mellow over questions like this.
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You know... I honestly agree with everything you said more than I agree with most things. I think that's something I try to remind myself and other people should too.
Are you not marking off the checkmarks in your life? Yes.
Is that by design? Yes.
Can you do something to change that and achieve more? Possibly.
Should you enjoy the small things and also not take things too seriously because that's literally how the system takes you to an early grave? Yes.
 
At 25, if your focus is your career, you have lots of time unless you've done something really stupid.

If it's social milestones and you're male, you're fucked and can never truly recover.
 
BPD Gunt Rider dijo:
At 25, if your focus is your career, you have lots of time unless you've done something really stupid.

If it's social milestones and you're male, you're fucked and can never truly recover.
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What if I'm 25-30 and I've been popular and had sex but I ended up losing my shit and having to recover? Not like going to prison or going homeless but simply losing my money in a bad investment?
 
Man is a rope stretched between “it’s over” and “we’re so back,” a rope over an abyss. A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking back, a dangerous trembling and halting. What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is both SO OVER and SO BACK.

Really though, it isn’t over until the fat tranny seethes. The truth is we out here
 
Kentucky Fried Man began his chicken empire when he was 62, people saying it is too late or whatever is just cope. You probably got baited on 4chins, this is a common demoralization tactic to induce anxiety.
 
kainvnod dijo:
I'm not a fan of the "It's never to late"-mentality. I think it invites procrastination and laziness. If it's never to late, why bother now?
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The flipside is that thinking you're too old to do something can also cause paralysis.

I've run into a surprising number of nurses, NPs and PAs who wanted to go to med school but were like fuck that I'm too old and I'd be 45 when I got out of residency. Well, spoiler alert, you're gonna be 45 no matter what you do. That's kind of how time works. Might as well go for it.
 
I think if you believe you have no chance at turning things around, its destined to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. You'll just dig yourself into a hole. You might be trapped in your ways for a while, and you might not ever make it out even, but if you convince yourself its impossible to move on, its guaranteed you;ll never move forward.
 
Depends on what you mean. Regrets over not pursuing a dream? Depends on the dream. Completely fucking your life up in every way with drugs and felonies and shit? Too late when you've got the felony, I would imagine. It depends on the circumstances. I would regard fucking your life up as being stuck in a lifestyle or circumstance that you hate. My life, too late at 23 probably. jk jk lol totally joking
 
NickDigger dijo:
Chris chan is completely irrevelant in a thread like this because he was long broken by the time his ED article dropped.
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Agreed, it's weird seeing posts that make Chris of all people out to be the standard by which all of humanity is to be judged. Most of us are not, and will never be, Chris-chan level spergs.

For most people, you have a chance at turning things around up until you're on your deathbed, and while stories of people making something of themselves in their twilight years are rare, I'm sure they happen.
 
Ideally, when you're dead. Realistically, before you're about to die (depending on cause of death). You can change your life for the better or worse by making simple decisions. The only way you fail is if you consciously give up on said change, because developing the determination of that change and going through it wouldn't be ignored unless you give up.
 
Kung Pow dijo:
Kentucky Fried Man began his chicken empire when he was 62, people saying it is too late or whatever is just cope. You probably got baited on 4chins, this is a common demoralization tactic to induce anxiety.
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It's impossible to start anything under 25 in the current age.
  1. Let's say you want to start your business. Unless you have a niche, you're fucked. If you don't have rich friends, nobody will buy your product. You finally found your niche and make a profit? A chinese/corpo competitor suddenly comes out of nowhere and undersells at half your price. You disappear in less than a week.
  2. You want to live of your skill/craft. You did 3 years of engineering and think you are good at your craft? Your 3 years of engineering school means nothing. The best jobs will go to bullshiters and you will end up covering for them. The industry is full of nepotistic assholes. Everyone over 35 is stuck in doing things their way and looks at you funny if you try something different. Try navigating through nepotism and egos.
  3. You want to work for someone and have a normal job? Wages are shit and employees are exploitative. The lowest jobs will go at an immigrant who they can legally exploit and you are at disadvantage for knowing your own rights. Working 5 years in this kind of job is draining and amounts to nothing. You will NOT go up. The best positions will be filled with friends of managers/HR.
 
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