Containment What will happen when Barb dies?

Even then, it would be pretty darn hard for them to prove rape if Barb doesn't want to testify, and I have my doubts about whether she can or will do that.
She might not even be capable of testifying. To get him on the felony version of incest all they need to prove, though, is that sex occurred and she was legally incapable of giving consent. They don't have to prove he physically overpowered her.
 
Bear in mind that, depending on how lucid Barb is and how much she cares about her autistic manchild of a son, she can (I think) ask the DA to drop charges. Even then, it would be pretty darn hard for them to prove rape if Barb doesn't want to testify, and I have my doubts about whether she can or will do that.

I think you're being a bit :optimistic: there. Assuming the best-case scenario happens - ie the judge takes one look at Chris and sends him to a group home - he'll still be in an environment with some fellow slow-in-the-minds because the alternatives are dumping him on the street, sending him back to Barb or keeping him in jail. The first one would drum up a lot of bad publicity, as would the second, and trying the third has led Chris to strut around calling himself Jesus Christ reincarnated.

If Chris does get sent there, he'd ideally just fade away from the public view and become a vaguely functional autist before dying at 60 from heart disease and being buried in the Charlottesville potter's field. Unfortunately this isn't an ideal world, so he'd probably end up "accidentally flirting" with another tard. I have no idea what social services do if that happens or if - God forbid - Chris ends up making a Crystal Weston Chandler with a 30 year old sped.
I feel by now if barb had asked they'd have done that now but it feels like Chris is getting some kind of punishment including not being allowed back home.

I feel in that instance of him getting rapey in a tard home they might finally put the prison hammer down on him.
 
As long as he didn't *do anything* when she said "no", it's not a problem. It is not illegal to ask to fuck your mom, and then not do it when she says "no". If everyone (including Barb) testifies that he did not do anything on the occasions where she said "no", the prosecution has nothing. For it to be rape, they would have to prove that he did indeed fuck her when she said "no". This is why a rape charge is exponentially harder to prove without Barb's consent. For the incest charge, they just have to prove that he fucked her at any point, regardless of her agreement at the time.
I assumed the prosecution was arguing Barb’s inability to consent given her obvious dementia. Chris has never claimed that Barb initiated any sexual contact, only that she was “receptive” to his recent abuse—which also shows that this was a predatory move on Chris’ part as he also never claimed to come onto Barb until she became incapable of resisting his advances.
Remember that the police charged and are holding Chris in custody for a reason. If Barb in full mental capacity went to them and said it was consensual then they would likely at least release him to her but it is clear from her silence and inability to care for even herself that Chris raped his weak and demented mother.
 
all they need to prove, though, is that sex occurred and she was legally incapable of giving consent
Can they do that, though?
I'm not a lawyer but I have my doubts that any of the ILJ logs or whatever would be admissible as evidence because Chris is obviously a profoundly autistic sped who was going along with what Bella said to seem cool, and if David Heilberg has any sense whatsoever he'll have told Chris to deny any sex took place.
Whether she's capable of consenting is another matter entirely though.
 
Can they do that, though?
I'm not a lawyer but I have my doubts that any of the ILJ logs or whatever would be admissible as evidence because Chris is obviously a profoundly autistic sped who was going along with what Bella said to seem cool, and if David Heilberg has any sense whatsoever he'll have told Chris to deny any sex took place.
Whether she's capable of consenting is another matter entirely though.
I think the deny any sex happened ship sailed after Chris went a week without a lawyer plus his first letter basically confessing to that and stealing barbs money.
 
Chris has never claimed that Barb initiated any sexual contact, only that she was “receptive” to his recent abuse—which also shows that this was a predatory move on Chris’ part as he also never claimed to come onto Barb until she became incapable of resisting his advances.
And premeditation since he literally deliberately went and got a book basically as a grooming manual for taking advantage of disabled people.
Can they do that, though?
I'm not a lawyer but I have my doubts that any of the ILJ logs or whatever would be admissible as evidence because Chris is obviously a profoundly autistic sped who was going along with what Bella said to seem cool, and if David Heilberg has any sense whatsoever he'll have told Chris to deny any sex took place.
So in other words, advise him to commit perjury? I doubt that's how he wants to end his career.
 
I think the deny any sex happened ship sailed after Chris went a week without a lawyer plus his first letter basically confessing to that and stealing barbs money.
"Why and What the hell?" Emanuel (God above all other Gods and Goddesses, and one of my mentors), herself, had deemed me to Heal, Cleanse, and Clear Barbara of All of her past sins and regrets, and improve her abilities directly and personally, as her Goddess. We mainly Cuddled, Soul-Bonded, and Talked. Consentful and Emotionally and Mentally Supportive and Healing, I did as I had done for and with a chosen few back in Isreal over 2000 years ago in cleansing Them. More details for the Bibles that had been Overlooked and Left Out. We Gods had eased up on the views of "Adultry"; WHY Else do you all have Pro-Gay, and Pro-Lesbian, Pro-Trans, and all Today and the past Decades? Everyone Involved Were All Being Genuinely, Deeply HAPPY, CONTENT, AND SPIRITUALLY SATISFIED with Themselves and Each Other. As long as All are over the age of consent, and the activity was consentual by all parties involved, AND GENUINELY, SPIRITUALLY HAPPY, It is good.
Yeah, there's no way he's getting out of this one.
 
if David Heilberg has any sense whatsoever he'll have told Chris to deny any sex took place.
Well, Chris already fucked up on that part since the first letter he wrote out of prison. He continuously discusses his "soul-bonding" with his "twin flame" Barb in order to make her "live past August" and "cleanse her of her past sin". Meanwhile in the phone call with ILJ she asks what made this occur, in which Chris replies "uh I was just really horny I suppose".
Chris feels absolute no guilt for the actions that took place, in fact he's been rationalizing them and mostly putting the blame on people who didn't pass the "divine test" (AKA not alerting authorities that he fucked his own mother/violated EPO put against the two). If Barb had been given the chance to get Chris out of prison, I believe she would have already (example; telling people that he was just being an autist on the internet telling people he had sex with his mom for attention from cute internet girls - I don't know how his logic works), but since that hasn't happened yet and Chris is still in there... I'm going to say there's a 99.8% chance that he'll be getting some charges and spending time behind bars.
 
She might not even be capable of testifying. To get him on the felony version of incest all they need to prove, though, is that sex occurred and she was legally incapable of giving consent. They don't have to prove he physically overpowered her.

They don't need to prove her inability to consent (or, more specifically, her inability to not consent) for it to be a felony. The misdemeanor/felony status is entirely up to the prosecution, and/or the judge/jury if it goes to trial. It's meant to allow the courts to consider the totality of circumstances in the case of minor felonies, giving them leeway to reduce it to a misdemeanor at their discretion. In practice it's usually used as a bargaining chip in a plea deal (we'll treat it as a misdemeanor if you plead guilty).

The inability to consent determination affects the SOR requirement. For an incest conviction, you only go on the SOR if there is a victim (i.e. someone unable to consent), or if you have been convicted multiple times.

Remember that the police charged and are holding Chris in custody for a reason. If Barb in full mental capacity went to them and said it was consensual then they would likely at least release him to her but it is clear from her silence and inability to care for even herself that Chris raped his weak and demented mother.

No, they would not just release Chris to go back to Barb. Even if Barb loudly said "I loved it, he hit the G spot perfectly!" Simply releasing Chris on his own recognizance back to 14BC would just enable the crime to happen again -- ESPECIALLY if Barb was consenting.
 
The inability to consent determination affects the SOR requirement. For an incest conviction, you only go on the SOR if there is a victim (i.e. someone unable to consent), or if you have been convicted multiple times.
Barb appears likely to have been unable to consent. If she had been, though, she'd be a felon herself.

§ 18.2-366. Sexual intercourse by persons forbidden to marry; incest; penalties.​

A. Any person who engages in sexual intercourse with any person whom he is forbidden by law to marry is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor except as provided by subsection B.

B. Any person who engages in sexual intercourse with his daughter or granddaughter, son or grandson, or father or mother is guilty of a Class 5 felony. However, if a parent or grandparent engages in sexual intercourse with his child or grandchild, and such child or grandchild is at least 13 years of age but less than 18 years of age at the time of the offense, such parent or grandparent is guilty of a Class 3 felony.

C. For the purposes of this section, parent includes stepparent, grandparent includes step-grandparent, child includes a stepchild, and grandchild includes a step-grandchild.

Code 1950, § 18.1-191; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1981, c. 397; 1993, c. 703; 2014, c. 542; 2020, cc. 122, 900.
I doubt any court even in Virginia is going to side with the argument that Barb consented to sex that Chris himself admitted was unwilling and resisted.
 
Barb appears likely to have been unable to consent. If she had been, though, she'd be a felon herself.

You've said it yourself in various threads -- even if Barb consented that doesn't mean she has to be charged. It's up to the prosecutor. They're not charging her because they think it's not worth it, and/or they think Chris is solely responsible on moral grounds, if not legal.

I doubt any court even in Virginia is going to side with the argument that Barb consented to sex that Chris himself admitted was unwilling and resisted.

To avoid a rape conviction in Virginia, as well as the SOR requirement on incest, the defense doesn't have to prove that she consented. The prosecution has to prove that she either refused to consent, or was so incapacitated that she was unable to refuse consent competently. Virginia does not require affirmative consent, only that there was an opportunity and ability to refuse consent.

More specifically, they have to prove that this happened *at the time the event occurred*.

To the best of my knowledge, Chris never said he had sex with her on the occasion she refused consent, merely that she refused consent "at first". Now, you can interpret this multiple ways, but it's not proof that he slept with Barb at the time she was refusing consent -- merely that she refused consent at that point. Moreover, Chris implied that she subsequently consented.

1st day
Chris: "Barbie-chan, let's have sex!"
Barb: "No!"
Chris: "Oh okay."
:: Chris goes to beat off to pony porn ::

2nd day
Chris: "Barbie-chan, let's have sex!"
Barb: "Oh, okay fine."
Chris: "Yay!"
:: squishing noises ensue ::

This scenario is not rape in Virginia. It's only rape on college campuses and other far-left hellholes where you're allowed to retroactively decide that you didn't really want to change your mind after all.
 
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To avoid a rape conviction in Virginia, as well as the SOR requirement on incest, the defense doesn't have to prove that she consented. The prosecution has to prove that she either refused to consent, or was so incapacitated that she was unable to refuse consent competently. Virginia does not require affirmative consent, only that there was an opportunity and ability to refuse consent.
He isn't charged with rape yet, though, so we really don't have to think about that yet.
 
He isn't charged with rape yet, though, so we really don't have to think about that yet.

Correct. I was just explaining that, at least as far as I can tell, Chris' public statements haven't indicated that he forced himself on or intimidated Barb. At worst, he only admits to somewhat badgering her.

(Not saying he DIDN'T do more than that, just that he's never admitted publicly to it)
 
I find it very strange that people are totally on board with Chris being okay with incest, but think Barb would never agree to it. One of the few people in the world with less of a chance of getting laid than Chris is Barb. Old ladies get super dry and thirsty. I'm sure Barb said no at first because of social conditioning, but Barb was also the fuck authority type, I don't think it's that big of a stretch that once she got the tingles she couldn't have said "fuck it, this is the only way I'm ever getting anything ever again before I'm dead".

We usually think of women as being picky about who they fuck -- that women are the people who say "no". But elderly women are kryptonite to penis. Younger men don't want them, and older men are rare because they die sooner (and they still prefer younger women). If old ladies were physically strong, there'd be a significant contingent among them that would become rapists. You have to have spent time in an old folks' home to learn just how bad it is.

Slight PL, but I worked in nursing homes and can honestly say, old people in general are thirsty. We were always trying to deal with a new STI wave going around. Antibiotics for everyone. And SO much cialis.

I will say, none of the old dudes around seemed to have anything against old lady pussy though.
 
Slight PL, but I worked in nursing homes and can honestly say, old people in general are thirsty. We were always trying to deal with a new STI wave going around. Antibiotics for everyone. And SO much cialis.

I will say, none of the old dudes around seemed to have anything against old lady pussy though.

You'll agree though that Chris could've gotten a lot of pussy in that nursing home, right?
 
I believe if it is true that she is selling the house and moving away the answer to this question will change.
She would become a non entity in Chris's life. In other words nothing will happen. It is doubtful that Chris will ever see her again. So the real question now is what will happen when Chris gets out and has nobody to fall back on? What happens if he gets out and has no home or car or a safety net?
If Chris is released and on his own we will see something we have never seen before. Chris will be on his own with literally no safety net. He will be thrown out of his man child world and into the real world we all face with no recourse.
 
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