What religion is the most harmful?

[Skitarii]

How many times was Rome sacked by Christians or Jews? lol

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[SwanSwanson]

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Monotheism number 1!

 

[SwanSwanson]

How does a belief system or lack of "live off of it's betters"?

A huge chunk of their moral system which makes them somewhat cohesive with human decency is because of their exposure to Christian/Muslim morals. Any new moral ideas that they have gotten from elsewhere is a negative deviation. Atheists love to take credit for morals based off of religion.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Probably a tossup between Christianity and Islam in terms of sheer historical damage to culture, genocides, oppression, slavery, etc. Since 1900, Islam is definitely the worst of those two though just because Muslims are oppressing and killing far more people than Christians and actively trying to conquer the world.

Honorable mention to atheism and science worship which even though it was practically non-existant before the 20th century has achieved a death toll that took Christians and Muslims centuries to achieve. Even proportionately science and atheism have been just as bad as Christians and Muslims given the mass destruction of monuments under Stalin, Mao, etc. The cult of science is evolving in ever more destructive directions with troonery, forced religious garb (mask mandates), religious practices required for public life (vaxx mandates), and dhimmi status for non-believers.

Gay thread, where's gnosticism? You know, the father of all this gay ass globohomo social engineering "I'm gonna be the supreme enlightened billionaire rapist" nonsense?

Gnosticism has nothing to do with that. In fact, if we take it as true (and there's definitely a lot of truth to gnosticism), the flesh-obsessed globohomo atheists might as well be the Demiurge's enforcers on this shitty planet trying to keep us away from spirituality.

How many times was Rome sacked by Christians or Jews? lol

Literally everyone who sacked Rome besides Brennus and the Celts in the 3rd century BC were Christians (although some individual Goths and Vandals were pagans even though their kings were Christian).

 

[The Great Chandler]

There are totally harmful cults and religions out there, but those typically are limited to mainly its membership (and should be investigated for human rights violations wherever applicable) unless they encourage zealot members to harm others for "the greater good" or just to send a message. In the case of science worship, this is especially harmful to scientific progress because it means you're unable to challenge everything (especially the corporations backing them up), and the "worshipers" just blindly follow what they're fed through headlines and rabidly attack those who question "the Science". This forsakes everything that science is all about: hypothesizing and then testing that hypothesis again and again and again and again, weighing out the successes and failures while also taking into consideration other hypotheses that're brought to the discussion, all for the sake of improving human livelihood and better understanding how the universe operates.

The funny thing, these are the kind of people who will tell you that mankind will never fly because some Harvard sell out told them so. The Catholics of the Middle Ages had more respect for the scientific method than the soybots who'd likely be proven wrong some 10 years down the line.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Honorable mention to atheism and science worship which even though it was practically non-existant before the 20th century has achieved a death toll that took Christians and Muslims centuries to achieve. Even proportionately science and atheism have been just as bad as Christians and Muslims given the mass destruction of monuments under Stalin, Mao, etc. The cult of science is evolving in ever more destructive directions with troonery, forced religious garb (mask mandates), religious practices required for public life (vaxx mandates), and dhimmi status for non-believers.

Communism has atheism as a feature but that's hardly "atheism and science worship" doing that, it's not done for the glory of atheism as such.

 

[The Great Chandler]

These days I feel kinda warm towards Islam because the degeneracy here has gotten so bad. Honestly when I hear that Islam recommends stoning adulterers, part of me goes "sounds based." Clearly other religions in the west have utterly failed to curtail the rise of secular progressivism as the new dominant religion. The Muslim world however, has not fallen prey to this, and seems to still have more of an intact moral structure. Is this because of Islam specifically? I don't know, but following a religion that treats reprobates with such extreme harshness certainly must have helped in this respect.

Just because the meme is funny doesn't make it actually based

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Communism has atheism as a feature but that's hardly "atheism and science worship" doing that, it's not done for the glory of atheism as such.

The Cultural Revolution was specifically to abolish "backward" elements of Chinese culture in favor of atheistic communism, and resulted in the murder and imprisonment of innumerable Buddhist clergy (and other Chinese religious figures) and destruction and vandalism of their temples and holy sites. The CCP officially persecutes Falun Gong (which admittedly is a really dumb cult) on the basis of being anti-modern. Similar thing with the anti-religious campaigns of the Soviet Union--Russian Orthodoxy, Judaism, and Islam were backwards religions that must be stamped out to achieve communism.

This isn't a bug, it's a feature of an atheist state founded on science. That's why they rail against religions which are skeptical about the program of our technocratic masters and oppose evolution, vaxxing, etc. Or Falun Gong for that matter, where Wikipedia spends a paragraph in the intro of the article screeching about how they're antivaxxers who support Trump and hate evolution. If they could, they'd run the West just like China.

Also don't forget Lysenkoism (caused famines), Great Leap Forward (some deaths can be attributed to communist ideology instead of simple bad economics), COVID-19 vaxx (deadliest in history, killed tens of thousands by the official stats and that's before we get to VAIDS), and other failures of scientocratic atheistic policy. That's not even counting Soviet and Chinese use of slave labor in construction projects like the Baltic-White Sea Canal which Stalin meant for the glory of communism and killed at least 25,000 people.

 

[Skitarii]

Gnosticism has nothing to do with that. In fact, if we take it as true (and there's definitely a lot of truth to gnosticism), the flesh-obsessed globohomo atheists might as well be the Demiurge's enforcers on this shitty planet trying to keep us away from spirituality.

Let's see, the global elite:

1. Believe that a centralized order is neccessary to save the disunited world from chaotic elements/energies ️

2. Oppose the idea of fleshly difference and seek homogeny through assimilation ️

3. Oppose the idea of worldly truths in favor of an all-diffusing universal truth that manifests through different faucets (the push for moral relativism as recent as the 19th century) ️

4. Support the division of society into a chosen few of enlightened guides (elect) and a comparatively larger assembly of acolytes and underclasses (hearers) ️

5. Abhor earthly existence and seek to transcend it through monsterous means (transhumanism) ️

This is fairly philosophically consistent with western gnosticism. We can also prove that this claim is historically-consistent by tracing the current liberal movement back to the enlightenment-era liberal thinkers who were inspired by the freemasons, and the freemasons who were inspired by the Rosicrucians, and the Rosicrucians who were inspired by the Hermeticists, and the Hermeticists who were inspired by the Bogomils, and the Bogomils who were the successors of the Manichaeists in Europe and Asia Minor, and the Manichaeists, whose founder came from a Mandean linneage.

Then again, I guess I'm talking to a dude with a loli avi, so cope pedo

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Let's see, the global elite:

1. Believe that a centralized order is neccessary to save the disunited world from chaotic elements/energies ️

Also found in Christianity (the Church).

2. Oppose the idea of fleshly difference and seek homogeny through assimilation ️

Also found in Christianity (all are equal before the Lord).

3. Oppose the idea of worldly truths in favor of an all-diffusing universal truth that manifests through different faucets (the push for moral relativism as recent as the 19th century) ️

Also found in Christianity (God appearing to people in different ways). But you're REALLY reaching to equate universal truth to moral relativism given the belief was always that Greek philosophers, Jesus, Buddha, etc. all had some good points.

4. Support the division of society into a chosen few of enlightened guides (elect) and a comparatively larger assembly of acolytes and underclasses (hearers) ️

Also found in Christianity (discipleship in Paul's epistles). Not to mention that literally every society ever (besides the ones anarchists fantasize about) is divided in a similar manner and only in the most primitive are the people permitted to actually choose their leaders (not in a fake bullshit way like modern democracy).

5. Abhor earthly existence and seek to transcend it through monsterous means (transhumanism) ️

Also found in Christianity (symbolically consume Jesus's flesh and blood to be rewarded with eternal life). That's also the key distinction, because they literally never want to leave this world because they want eternal life here. There's no comparison between uploaded mind utopia and the gnostic vision of ascending from this world, because uploaded mind utopia still leaves you with a human, physical consciousness. It's completely silly to argue this when your argument is akin to saying that theistic Satanism is a form of Christianity since they both believe in God and Satan and worship a single divine entity in hopes of being united with them for eternity.

This is fairly philosophically consistent with western gnosticism. We can also prove that this claim is historically-consistent by tracing the current liberal movement back to the enlightenment-era liberal thinkers who were inspired by the freemasons, and the freemasons who were inspired by the Rosicrucians, and the Rosicrucians who were inspired by the Hermeticists, and the Hermeticists who were inspired by the Bogomils, and the Bogomils who were the successors of the Manichaeists in Europe and Asia Minor, and the Manichaeists, whose founder came from a Mandean linneage.

And Mandeanism came (in part) from Christianity, so sounds like Christianity is the problem. Oh wait, Christianity came from Judaism, which came from Semitic paganism, so maybe it's the goddamn Akkadians and the Annunaki. Yeah no shit, what you said means literally nothing. You might as well be saying the modern Democrats are a party of true Americans since they were the party of the KKK and Andrew Jackson while the Republicans are a bunch of commies since Marx praised Lincoln and their ideology was closer to French Revolutionary liberalism.

 

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[Skitarii]

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Pretty much everything you just said is whattaboutism and undermines your point that gnosticism is superior to Christianity

Democrats are a party of true Americans since they were the party of the KKK

Cope nazi chud

 

[ICametoLurk]

Obviously Shinto.

 

[Wormy]

A huge chunk of their moral system which makes them somewhat cohesive with human decency is because of their exposure to Christian/Muslim morals. Any new moral ideas that they have gotten from elsewhere is a negative deviation. Atheists love to take credit for morals based off of religion.

I didn't know Islam/Chrisitianity had some sort of copyright claim on acting like a decent human being. To me that sounds like taking the good parts and leaving out the bullshit which is...bad somehow?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Pretty much everything you just said is whattaboutism and undermines your point that gnosticism is superior to Christianity

It's not whataboutism when your points are so stupidly vague they can apply to literally anything. Like by your logic, since the United States was founded by Freemasons we clearly live in a Mandean theocracy or whatever.

 

[Skitarii]

It's not whataboutism when your points are so stupidly vague they can apply to literally anything. Like by your logic, since the United States was founded by Freemasons we clearly live in a Mandean theocracy or whatever.

 

[Simony]

Roman Catholicism is a systemic threat to Christianity, but it is benign from a secular perspective: the church has stopped persecuting believers, only government officials and corporations take the papal throne seriously.

Islam is still the worst religion. Whereas Rome, the holiest city in Catholicism, ended slavery by the end of late antiquity. Mecca was literally a slave-trading capitol until the sixties. White imperialist British folk imposed foreign values upon the House of Saud and were forced to emancipate the slaves.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

If Leftism was on this list, because it is a religion, I would have chosen it.

I don’t care it wasn’t listed it’s without a doubt the worst.

They are castrating children and autists, advocating for auto-genocide, and intentionally dragging the economy down to “save the earth.” They are not a strict hierarchy but if anything this makes them more insane and dangerous.

And yes, they are a religion, whether they want to admit it or not. One that was incubated in large part by live journal and Tumblr.

 

[Otterly]

If you’d asked me three years ago I’d have said Islam.
After seeing billions of people locked down, their civil rights stripped, and then injected with an untested brand new genetic treatment with poor safety outcomes by means of force and coercion, I have changed my mind. After seeing what filled the void created by the decline of western Christianity - secular cults like trannyism, rampant degeneracy and child preparation, I’m changing my answer to ‘progressive secular scientism.’

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

When an atheist grows up out of his mom's basement and starts going to Church

Name five atheists who ever did this