What do pleb-tier Freemasons actually do?

In the Protestant/Anglosphere, they are mostly the stereotypical harmless old geezers fraternity. But in Catholic countries like Italy and Mexico, they're subversives and hellraisers who plan their schemes behind the Lodge door.

And not peaceful political activism against the Catholic Church. They'd firebomb churches and murder priests and nuns.

And their spiritual beliefs are some kind of woowoo Unitarian universalism where any deity is considered equally valid, be it Jesus, Satan, Vishnu, Allah, Buddha, Xemu, or Sonichu.
 
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Is this the Masonic PR damage control thread?

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I've spoken with a few freemasons about their club. It normally goes like this:
"So what do you guys do?"
"We just do good deeds."
"Like what?"
"You know, like helping the community and stuff."
"How have you guys helped the community?"
"We do all kinds of stuff. We do good deeds."
"Specifically what good deeds have you done?"
And here I'll get one of two responses. Either "You should join us and find out," or "Why are you so concerned?"

In my view, it's all 3D chess. They claim to do vague "acts of charity" that never materialize so the world will think they're some elite cabal of world-movers when in actuality they're just a bunch of closet gays in a basement whipping each other's bare asses while wearing animal masks.
Really, we just have a dinner and catch up with the bros, sometimes people give lectures on Masonry related history or personal interests that are related to Masonry or what some other lodge is up to that's nice, and aside from that we give out scholarships and help out with homeless shelters and other local charities.
It's really not a big deal, it's a fraternity at the end of the day albeit one with a lot of history behind it. The secrets and rituals go back to the alleged origin as a stoneworkers guild where the secrets of their trade were closely guarded, and as time went on we shifted from a guild to a fraternity but kept those secrets and rituals.
 
Right. Because those old geezers not only know how to use a computer, they care what the autistic people of this site says

anything you attribute to them is giving them too much credit.

masons nowadays are literally fat old men using jew shit for a larp because they have nothing better to do.

Here's some of the "rituals"





This is dungeons and dragons for boomers.
 
Right. Because those old geezers not only know how to use a computer, they care what the autistic people of this site says

anything you attribute to them is giving them too much credit.

masons nowadays are literally fat old men using jew shit for a larp because they have nothing better to do.

Here's some of the "rituals"

This is dungeons and dragons for boomers.
A bunch of old geezers doing LARP rituals? What does that remind me of?
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Things are always the same I guess
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And not peaceful political activism against the Catholic Church. They'd firebomb churches and murder priests and nuns.
Is it still that bad in med countries? mid - late 20th century Central/South America and Italy seems like they could have caused a lot of trouble but these days it sounds like they're just particularly aggressive libtards
 
If you're actually interested in what your local Masons do the Corinthian halls usually have a public meeting at the start of the month that you can go to. Here they're mostly artists that work with the Shriners to make stuff like postcards and paintings to distribute among the local hospitals to raise money for children's cancer care and whatnot, though I've been working with a couple through the Men's Shed to make bee hotels to give away at some upcoming plant sales. I know they have a habit of pressuring the really active guys to do middle management shit that pulls them all around the country and they all hate it, but since there's so little new blood going in (true of all volunteering and community organizations sadly) they don't really have a choice.

Alternatively if you're one of the conspiratorial boomers that insists anyone kind is secretly evil and after your lucky charms they actually spend their days making Steve Gutenberg a star and keeping the metric system down. Nasty work.
 
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Is it still that bad in med countries? mid - late 20th century Central/South America and Italy seems like they could have caused a lot of trouble but these days it sounds like they're just particularly aggressive libtards
I don't know if it persists to this day, but they've largely accomplished their mission of exporting libtardery worldwide.

They've had at least one Head of State assassinated: Garcia Moreno of Ecuador, in 1869. St. Maximilian Kolbe recalled them parading around Rome with banners depicting St. Michael beneath the feet of Lucifer.

They refer to non-Masons as "profanes", make you swear oaths of secrecy on penalty of death, and treat their organization as an esoteric true path to enlightenment.

Now, I'm not saying every Mason is a murderer or a devil-worshipper, nor am I claiming they're all invested in the rituals. But their belief system is a quasi-religion unto itself. Most don't know or care what they're actually swearing curses upon themselves over.
 
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St. Maximilian Kolbe recalled them parading around Rome with banners depicting St. Michael beneath the feet of Lucifer.
That's an interesting one I hadn't heard before, but based on what I have, I believe it. Grew up Catholic (still am) and for the most part all I heard about them was Albanian classmates obsessing over them as the representatives of the illuminati and disregarded it. An elder chud english teacher I had was the first one to point out to me how sinister their legacy was. Somewhat relieving to know that now its just old faggots or swingers on small town councils.
 
They're a very old frat house.

There's no strippers, but what they do have is hazing rituals, camaraderie and a no girls allowed (usually) pillow fort. They give favourable terms to their own and run Mason only pensions, life insurance, jobs for the boys etc.

If anyone is curious why the Catholics in this thread are mad about them, it's their entry requirement.

You have to believe in a supreme deity, the creator, "The Supreme Builder/Mason" no less. Monotheism was historically expected, but today is not.

The only man who cannot theoretically become a Freemason is an atheist, even agnostics get a pass. Your theological opinions beyond the existence of this deity, are irrelevant. Obviously, when you claim to be the sole revealed source of absolute truth to whom all others must submit, that's a problem.

There was once upon a time a period where Catholics could be Freemasons, until the Catholic Church in 1738 started condemning any organisations that allowed religious pluralism (in this case, had Protestants and Deists). Also known as "Relativism".

Historically Islam might have had something to say about Freemasonry, but lodges just didn't exist in the Islamic world at that time for the most part. One Ottoman Sultan did ban Freemasons from his land, but that was explicitly because he thought they were atheists rather than kufr. Modern Arab nations on the other hand, do condemn and ban Freemasonry specifically because they allow Jews and are therefore Zionists.
 
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Historically Islam might have had something to say about Freemasonry, but lodges just didn't exist in the Islamic world at that time for the most part. One Ottoman Sultan did ban Freemasons from his land, but that was explicitly because he thought they were atheists rather than kufr. Modern Arab nations on the other hand, do condemn and ban Freemasonry; specifically because they allow Jews and are therefore Zionists.
Shriners wear fezzes, call some of their Temples "mosques", and swear their oaths on the Quran. They've allegedly toned down the Islamic Content since 9/11, as it was getting them vandalized and mistaken for Hadji sympathizers.
 
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