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I don’t hate Jessie. What I do hate is the milking of a dead franchise. I know that Dreamworks has a lot of bad ideas, but at least they try new things. Pixar, however, is stuck in the past.
The irony is the Pixar I (and probably you) grew up with had pushing the envelope as its MO. Not just the tech but effective storytelling and the like. Obviously their streak wouldn't last forever. but it's still a shame.
 
It's also weird because, going by the timeline of the movies, this should take place in the mid-2010s at most, yet tablets are as prevelant as they are in the mid-2020s.
Chalk that up to the films abandoning any pretense of sticking to real time. The series let Andy age to college but after 3? Nope bonnie has to still be elementary school at most she's aged out of kindergarten but logically she should be as old as Andy was in 3 by now...and you know what? If they went that direction and kept true to the "Toy Story kids will age and move on from the toys" rule I could almost forgive the series...almost.
 
Do you think it's a royalties thing?

It's possible, even if Dana doesn't own the Owl house she might still be entitled to some of the profits. Disney did work hard to screw over Star Wars creators over royalties by making OCs.

That being said I think it's more likely that in their view the OWL house has already peaked, and just wasn't the success they wanted it to be.

It is in a similar situation of Steven Universe, bigger with adults than with kids. I have seen kids with TADC and K-pop Demon Hunters merch. I have yet to to see one with Owl house.

Disney already own many franchises about girls with magic. I am sure it made more sense to them to try something new, in their own way with Hexed, and own everything, than trying to revive a meh old project and be beholden to the whims of someone else.

If the OWL house had been as big, or even half as big, as Harry Potter, Disney would have made a movie about it, instead of Hexed. But it's not.
 
Fievel is frowning or crying for 90% of the first film and it makes it miserable.
I mean.....yeah? Think about it. You're a seven year old kid. You got separated from your family while traveling halfway across the world. You end up in an unfamiliar place, and you don't have the first clue about where your family could be, but you do what you can to find them. Along the way, you encounter several dangers, nearly getting killed on a couple of occasions. Ofc you'd be crying/frowning. That's part of what I love about Don Bluth's 80s movies - they don't sugarcoat shit.
 
Oh fuuuuuuuuuck ooooooooooff.
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>So many times, young girls in movies and TV talk about boys, or they're princesses.
Yes, because that's what they talk about, and what they fantasize about being, respectively. Stereotypes exist for a reason, dumbass.
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Wanna know why this movie became the last major success among that demographic? Because the 3 leads looked cool, did cool shit,
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and had oodles of those boys to gawk at.
 
>So many times, young girls in movies and TV talk about boys, or they're princesses.
Yes, because that's what they talk about, and what they fantasize about being, respectively. Stereotypes exist for a reason, dumbass.
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Wanna know why this movie became the last major success among that demographic? Because the 3 leads looked cool, did cool shit,
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and had oodles of those boys to gawk at.
There's room for both kinds of movies, but no way in hell this project will top KPDH's success.
 

Just once I want one of these people to actually list these movies they're watching where women only talk about boys. I can't remember the last time it even came up in one I watched let alone being their sole focus.

It's like they escaped on a time machine from the 1960s.
 
Wanna know why this movie became the last major success among that demographic? Because the 3 leads looked cool, did cool shit,

This is also why Captain Marvel failed. Or all the girl bosses for that matter, and something even the anti woke crowd gets wrong.

Women do like powerful female characters, so long as they are pretty, and femenine that is. They just don’t like them if they are ugly or manly. The K-pop Demon Hunter trio is shamelessly femenine.
 
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An American Tail (1986): 5/10
Hot take. I don't like this film. Sorry. Don Bluth is a top class animator but this film makes me feel weird esp now as an adult. I could go into detail but I don't wanna piss off Bluth fans. I'd rather watch any other Bluth cartoon.
Honestly, I feel like Bluth films, as visually pleasing as they are, hit much harder if you see it first thing as a child and then continue to resonate with you as an adult. I will forever always go back to watch Secret of NIMH and Land Before Time, but I tried American Tail and All Dogs Go to Heaven a few years back and I shrugged them off. I don't know how to describe it tbh. The Small One Disney short he directed is also one I can still go back to as an adult, although the filler moments stick out too much for me to ignore.

Still such a fascinating man, though. His autobiography is worth the read.
 
Honestly, I feel like Bluth films, as visually pleasing as they are, hit much harder if you see it first thing as a child and then continue to resonate with you as an adult. I will forever always go back to watch Secret of NIMH and Land Before Time, but I tried American Tail and All Dogs Go to Heaven a few years back and I shrugged them off. I don't know how to describe it tbh. The Small One Disney short he directed is also one I can still go back to as an adult, although the filler moments stick out too much for me to ignore.

Still such a fascinating man, though. His autobiography is worth the read.
I remember All Dogs Go to Heaven more than Land Before Time (didn't watch Secret of NIMH until much later, not sure if I ever finished American Tail). Then again, All Dogs had this grime to it, not to mention all the death around its production.
 
I remember All Dogs Go to Heaven more than Land Before Time (didn't watch Secret of NIMH until much later, not sure if I ever finished American Tail). Then again, All Dogs had this grime to it, not to mention all the death around its production.
Bluth films are like the Linkin Park of kids films. I can't watch a good one without getting the feels.
 
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