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[Learning Wall]

 

[Castoreum]

The message of so much modern American animation, including movies like "Hexed" as seen upthread is to tell people they're special and it's the "normals", the "mundanes" holding them back from going to metaphorical Hogwarts or whatever - Disney et. al. blatantly targets certain demographics, especially young girls with the goal of reinforcing every single bad delusion girls could conceivably have. It's been pretty blatant, unmasked, with the last few Disney movies, as well other movies, shows, etc. not even subtext, just plain text or blatant super-text "DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, HATE YOUR PARENTS AND TELL THEM TO PISS OFF, EVERYONE BUT YOU IS WRONG."

This is how cults recruit people. But Disney isn't a cult because something something just cartoons for kids.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Monster’s University had easily the most brutal, yet honest lesson of any Pixar film. A film that said that you can do everything right and still fail, but that there is always something around the corner that you may have never even realized.

I remember really liking MU but no one else did.

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Is this show any good? Is it cringe? Is it try hard?

 

[harmy.kook]

Is this show any good? Is it cringe? Is it try hard

It looked they copied another scene entirely and it's also by some Groyper

Eh, this kinda reads as sour grapes to me, especially with the generic as hell "adult animated sitcom" artstyle.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dEsiYI_W9CE

 

[Trollblade69]

Apparently he was also reply-guying the Gameoverse creator on Twitter. Guy did everything short of saying "Notice me senpai~" for attention.

 

[Quijibo69]

Watching Toy Story 5, oh boy it sucks! I say it's the worse one out of all of them! I don't know what movie everyone else saw, it wasn't this one. I'm glad I didn't pay for this! Jessie is the weakest character and it's pretty much all about her.

 

[Purple fur Pomeranian]

Watching Toy Story 5, oh boy it sucks! I say it's the worse one out of all of them! I don't know what movie everyone else saw, it wasn't this one. I'm glad I didn't pay for this! Jessie is the weakest character and it's pretty much all about her.

It's Toy Story, people are going to suck it off no matter what any of us say. Pixar Fans are no different from Nintendo fans.

 

[Quijibo69]

I think it's funny, I always hated the first Monsters Inc movie and everyone thinks that movie is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

 

[Coolio55]

Damn, this makes me think that just 13 years ago, we got one of Pixar’s best scenes, if not the best, depicting the opposite lesson.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SdNGOM82vO8Monster’s University had easily the most brutal, yet honest lesson of any Pixar film. A film that said that you can do everything right and still fail, but that there is always something around the corner that you may have never even realized. This movie tore down the whole MC is special message of these modern films and created a genuine masterpiece in doing so. I wish kids films were still this honest even if it is upsetting.

They almost had a good scene there and then they had to do the Red Dead 2 thing.

 

[The Great One]

It's Toy Story, people are going to suck it off no matter what any of us say. Pixar Fans Disney Adults are no different from Nintendo fans.

FTFY

 

[Castoreum]

Watching Monsters Inc again with toddler. Forgot to give it a rating last post.

Monsters Inc. (2001): 9/10
Hits different as a parent. Were there ever people who shipped Mike & Sully bc they basically turn into two dads during the second act. All the VAs kill it. It's hilarious to me they followed Boo's VA around with a field recorder to get her lines. Steve Buscemi rocks as Randall and despite being actually evil his design is fun to look at. The scream sucker machine is horrific. That scene where Sully demonstrates his roar and scares Boo only to see himself scaring her makes me cry. Not 10/10 because idk. I can't put my finger on why it feels off.

Bambi (1942): 10/10
American culture! *bald eagle screech* I didn't realize this film was based on a book. I read Sword in the Stone and could see why Disney wanted to animate it, so I might find a copy of the Bambi book. There's not much to say other than that this film is so ingrained in people's minds that they forget what it was about. It really reminds me of Lion King's circle of life theme. I miss the appreciation and respect of nature in a lot of media. People can make environmentalist films while completely forgetting to study nature. Bambi strongly represents animals as they usually act (minus the talking part). Deer are awesome animals and I am always flabbergasted at how they are animated in Bambi. Feels bad that Bambi's mom died, but it really feels like adolescence ends when a parent dies. Also gave me a similar feeling to Lion King.

An American Tail (1986): 5/10
Hot take. I don't like this film. Sorry. Don Bluth is a top class animator but this film makes me feel weird esp now as an adult. I could go into detail but I don't wanna piss off Bluth fans. I'd rather watch any other Bluth cartoon.

Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs (2009): 10/10
Finally a 3D animated movie that still remembers it's a cartoon. Really funny. Laughed a lot. Daughter loved pointing out food and even made me pause the movie when she saw hot dogs so we could get some from the store. Normally I hate lolsorandumb humor but it goes all in and is kind of Seussian. My fav part is when the kid says "Strawberry is my favorite!" and faceplants into the ice cream.

Ernest & Celestine (2012): 7.5/10
Pleasant on the eyes film. The GKIDS English dub sucks though. You can tell anime dub voice actors are in all the roles. Celestine's VA actually sounds great tho. The animation was so fun to look at and the winter song segment was a gorgeous utilization of the watercolor medium. Not much happens but that's ok. Prob would be rated higher if I watched in French w/subtitles but my daughter hates foreign film.

Been trying to watch different animated movies (Atlantis, Snow White, The Wild Robot, Song of the Sea, etc.) with her but she keeps passing on them. I thought nice animation or cute animals would captivate her but she likes strong character more than animation. I'm about ready to unleash the princess films.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Wait a minute....

Just got out of Toy Story 5. It was good,

Watching Toy Story 5, oh boy it sucks!

Ah the duality of the farms.

 

[McMitch]

An American Tail (1986): 5/10

Fievel Goes West is unironically a better film.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

Watching Toy Story 5, oh boy it sucks! I say it's the worse one out of all of them! I don't know what movie everyone else saw, it wasn't this one. I'm glad I didn't pay for this! Jessie is the weakest character and it's pretty much all about her.

I haven’t seen the movie yet, but watching the trailers, I will say that they are way too late to the iPad kid conversation.

 

[Castoreum]

Fievel Goes West is unironically a better film.

I think so too but I thought it was a controversial opinion. The story and animation is much more fun. Fievel is frowning or crying for 90% of the first film and it makes it miserable.

 

[starborn427614]

Monsters Inc. (2001): 9/10
Hits different as a parent. Were there ever people who shipped Mike & Sully bc they basically turn into two dads during the second act. All the VAs kill it. It's hilarious to me they followed Boo's VA around with a field recorder to get her lines. Steve Buscemi rocks as Randall and despite being actually evil his design is fun to look at. The scream sucker machine is horrific. That scene where Sully demonstrates his roar and scares Boo only to see himself scaring her makes me cry. Not 10/10 because idk. I can't put my finger on why it feels off.

I'm really curious about the upcoming sequel. Will it build off Monsters at Work or just ignore it entirely?

 

[Quijibo69]

I haven’t seen the movie yet, but watching the trailers, I will say that they are way too late to the iPad kid conversation.

For the most part it's a Jessie film. If you hate Jessie you will hate this film, much like I did.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Hot take. I don't like this film. Sorry. Don Bluth is a top class animator but this film makes me feel weird esp now as an adult. I could go into detail but I don't wanna piss off Bluth fans. I'd rather watch any other Bluth cartoon.

Don't cocktease me like that, I love that film and it's rare that I find someone who doesn't. I always love a good hot take.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

About Hex, like someone pointed on Twitter, it will never not be funny to me how Disney preferred to just do their own thing than adapt the Owl house which they also own, which also involves a ethnic teenager going to magic world and is also about using magic.

Do you think it's a royalties thing?

Its extremely funny that their definition of looking like an outcast is having a few purple streaks in your hair and using ribbons for shoelaces.

I would love to see the writers and executives brainstorming what they think a punk is like.

Like damn not to sound woke but they didnt even make her chubby or anything. Usually the real outcasts either 1. have something easy to shit on like being fat or a turboautist or bad hygiene 2. be a completely unlikeable cunt or 3. just not standing out at all while also being too shy to approach others.

I really hate to be that guy, especially since there's been a ton of comparisons before, but The Owl House's protagonist being an outcast works because she did shit that freaked out most of her classmates. She wasn't trying to hurt people, but she ended up alienating herself by overindulging in her fantasies.

Here, all we get to show this girl as an outcast is... she doesn't dress normally.

Monster’s University had easily the most brutal, yet honest lesson of any Pixar film. A film that said that you can do everything right and still fail, but that there is always something around the corner that you may have never even realized. This movie tore down the whole MC is special message of these modern films and created a genuine masterpiece in doing so. I wish kids films were still this honest even if it is upsetting.

It also teaches a lesson about how your dream can lead to an entirely different calling. Mike may not be a good scarer, but he knows a lot about the art and how to help others be scary, making him the perfect scaring coach. In addition, the kids finding him adorable means he's great at making them laugh. He managed to find two lucrative careers related to his original dream.

That scene where Sully demonstrates his roar and scares Boo only to see himself scaring her makes me cry.

Wanna feel even worse? Consider the idea that they had to scare the kid voicing her just to

Fievel Goes West is unironically a better film.

Isn't that the last film Jimmy Stewart was in?

I haven’t seen the movie yet, but watching the trailers, I will say that they are way too late to the iPad kid conversation.

It's also weird because, going by the timeline of the movies, this should take place in the mid-2010s at most, yet tablets are as prevelant as they are in the mid-2020s.

 

[McMitch]

Isn't that the last film Jimmy Stewart was in?

Yes.