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Godchu dijo:
if I had to guess, the movie is really a self-insert allegory about a Hyphenated-American suffering from an identity crisis
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Is anyone else tired of biracial insecurities being put on film? It was cringy enough when GET Out did it and it's just plain lame now.
Plus it basically what that Audi Shankar's entire career is in animation, than again Indian liberals basically want to be any race other than Indian.
 
A Grey Cat dijo:
Indie animation is shit.



Mainstream animation is shit.





My god life has become the you're getting old ass burgers duology from south park. We laughed at it back then but who's laughing now.







Also you could say it's this Simpsons clip really the meaning is there either way.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=BGrfhsxxmdE
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We've practically become the Dead Animators Society before we knew it.
 
Ultraman Orb Dark dijo:
Eh, I work at one of the stadiums hosting World Cup matches, so I'm used to angry soccer enthusiasts calling for death.

Maybe it was rushed for the World Cup.

"Do you realize? DO YOU REALIZE... how special you are?"
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That's not the soccer enthusiast, that is the COACH. Telling his team to kill a 12 year old. While people around him can hear. Because he's losing a soccer game. That doesn't even have any real stakes (they don't say if there is a tournament or anything for the winner, i have no idea why they're playing.)

Even crazier, the 12 year old in question has a dragon of mass destruction inside him so it spectacularly backfires and his captain almost dies. After the game the coach jumps at the 12 year old and implies he's too dangerous (LOL) to be kept alive but then the kid's dad appear and he leaves.

There is this huge dissonance problem in this show cause they attempt to paint Key as dangerous but it doesn't work because every player thrash talks him on sight (even after losing to him) while the adults are corrupt or mentally unstable so their concern sounds fake and none of this would happen if people were just be nice to him.

Episode 11 ends with everyone scared of the MC and yelling "What have you done?!" but at that point i was glad one of the shitkids finally got humbled after playing with fire.

And yes, it did release on the same day the world cup started.
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood dijo:
Alan Ng saw an early screening of Toy Story 5, and he says it's the best film Disney-Pixar has made in years.
He's right-leaning, but I wouldn't call him part of the hardcore anti-woke sphere the way people like Drinker and Nerdrotic are, so if you want an idea of the general normie reaction to this film, he's a decent barometer.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AQhrnexihdU
TOY STORY 5 OUT OF THE THEATER REACTION Film Threat Reactions.mp4
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I like he's probably the most normie of all the film review and gives Film Threat some honest perspectives
 
SpiderBitch dijo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mtC4sjABZNw
Anyways, disneys newest movie trailer is out and it sucks ass as expected. Disney really is just super incompetent when it comes to making original stuff. Their last 2 decent and successful outputs are moana (which at least had maui folklore to borrow from) and encanto, with both being hard carried by lin manual miranda music. This is definitely gonna be another raya or wish.
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About Hex, like someone pointed on Twitter, it will never not be funny to me how Disney preferred to just do their own thing than adapt the Owl house which they also own, which also involves a ethnic teenager going to magic world and is also about using magic.

If Dana Terrace's magnus opus was as valuable, or popular, as she thought, you would see them doing movies and shows, instead of just a comic. They would've if they owned Harry Potter.

It's really a dime a dozen concept these days.
 
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Kari Kamiya dijo:
How did Woody come back to Bonnie, anyway? Did they actually retcon the fourth film?
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It's kinda contrived, but basically, Jessie makes Buzz her deputy while she goes across the street to try to understand why no kids want to be friends with Bonnie (it's because they're all addicted to their smartpads). While talking with Woody over the walkie, she quickly shoves it into a hamper when Buzz opens the closet to investigate who she's talking to, and ends up halfway depressing the Push-to-Talk button in the process, so when she says, "It's not a big deal, Buzz. I don't need your help, deputy," all Woody hears is, "It's... big deal... I... need... help, deputy." Or something like that; I'm paraphrasing. He never permanently comes back, and I don't think Bonnie even interacted with him once throughout the film.
 
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The message of so much modern American animation, including movies like "Hexed" as seen upthread is to tell people they're special and it's the "normals", the "mundanes" holding them back from going to metaphorical Hogwarts or whatever - Disney et. al. blatantly targets certain demographics, especially young girls with the goal of reinforcing every single bad delusion girls could conceivably have. It's been pretty blatant, unmasked, with the last few Disney movies, as well other movies, shows, etc. not even subtext, just plain text or blatant super-text "DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, HATE YOUR PARENTS AND TELL THEM TO PISS OFF, EVERYONE BUT YOU IS WRONG."
 
Commander X dijo:
The message of so much modern American animation, including movies like "Hexed" as seen upthread is to tell people they're special and it's the "normals", the "mundanes" holding them back from going to metaphorical Hogwarts or whatever - Disney et. al. blatantly targets certain demographics, especially young girls with the goal of reinforcing every single bad delusion girls could conceivably have. It's been pretty blatant, unmasked, with the last few Disney movies, as well other movies, shows, etc. not even subtext, just plain text or blatant super-text "DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, HATE YOUR PARENTS AND TELL THEM TO PISS OFF, EVERYONE BUT YOU IS WRONG."
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Its extremely funny that their definition of looking like an outcast is having a few purple streaks in your hair and using ribbons for shoelaces. In any city school (or at least blue cities) this girl would literally be the most popular girl in her year if she werent intentionally isolating herself and pushing people away. I was friends with a girl who looked like her, maybe even more alt, with some quirkier interests, and she was constantly getting asked out by popular jock boys who she would reject and had a huge female friend group orbiting around her. And all the other girls I know with the most active social lives are usually alt-ish manic pixie dream girl types too.

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Like damn not to sound woke but they didnt even make her chubby or anything. Usually the real outcasts either 1. have something easy to shit on like being fat or a turboautist or bad hygiene 2. be a completely unlikeable cunt or 3. just not standing out at all while also being too shy to approach others. Its clearly not 3 and theres nothing visually wrong with her so that just leaves being a cunt or smelling like shit.

Crazy when they literally deconstructed this shit like 2 decades ago already
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Commander X dijo:
The message of so much modern American animation, including movies like "Hexed" as seen upthread is to tell people they're special and it's the "normals", the "mundanes" holding them back from going to metaphorical Hogwarts or whatever - Disney et. al. blatantly targets certain demographics, especially young girls with the goal of reinforcing every single bad delusion girls could conceivably have. It's been pretty blatant, unmasked, with the last few Disney movies, as well other movies, shows, etc. not even subtext, just plain text or blatant super-text "DO WHATEVER YOU WANT, HATE YOUR PARENTS AND TELL THEM TO PISS OFF, EVERYONE BUT YOU IS WRONG."
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Damn, this makes me think that just 13 years ago, we got one of Pixar’s best scenes, if not the best, depicting the opposite lesson.

Monster’s University had easily the most brutal, yet honest lesson of any Pixar film. A film that said that you can do everything right and still fail, but that there is always something around the corner that you may have never even realized. This movie tore down the whole MC is special message of these modern films and created a genuine masterpiece in doing so. I wish kids films were still this honest even if it is upsetting.

Wreck-It Ralph is also pretty underrated in this category. A film that leaves Ralph still in a pretty shitty job by the end, but with the benefit that now the people around him can see he has real value and appreciate him for what he does. God I miss early 2010s animation, so many worthwhile stories/lessons that got left to waste.
 
Basic Blond Boy dijo:
Damn, this makes me think that just 13 years ago, we got one of Pixar’s best scenes, if not the best, depicting the opposite lesson.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SdNGOM82vO8
Monster’s University had easily the most brutal, yet honest lesson of any Pixar film. A film that said that you can do everything right and still fail, but that there is always something around the corner that you may have never even realized. This movie tore down the whole MC is special message of these modern films and created a genuine masterpiece in doing so. I wish kids films were still this honest even if it is upsetting.

Wreck-It Ralph is also pretty underrated in this category. A film that leaves Ralph still in a pretty shitty job by the end, but with the benefit that now the people around him can see he has real value and appreciate him for what he does. God I miss early 2010s animation, so many worthwhile stories/lessons that got left to waste.
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Old Pixar was surprisingly very brutally honest with their lessons, yeah.

Everyone loves to quote the Ratatouille “a chef can come from everywhere” speech, but some people miss that it's actually saying only a few people are born talented, and others are not. It just says the talented might have humble origins, but they are still better than you.

The first Incredibles was similar. It also condemned “exceptional” people being held back by those that were average. The villain was literally a guy that was jealous of people that were born special.

Cars, beneath the goofy cars, actually has also been brutally honest about old age and dealing with being past your prime.

Despite them being technically Disney, Pixar, used to avoid the classic happily ever after Disney endings and lessons.
 
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Mystery Spy dijo:
Old Pixar was surprisingly very brutally honest with their lessons, yeah.
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I think the thing Disney/Pixar are afraid of saying nowadays is that some people are special and some people aren't. Those older movies outright admit that not everyone can become a great chef, not everyone's super, not everyone is Sully levels of inherently scary and even hotshot racecars will one day be old and dried up. They acknowledged you can be average, or lose what made you great over time through no fault of your own. It's not so much that these special characters like Lightning and Elastigirl and Remy are just better than us and will be better forever, they have gifts for now, it's what they do with it that matters. I think that's where the wish fulfillment movies go right, is you have this character who's rich or powerful or lucky or talented or whatever, but that's not the end of their story, it's the beginning of it. You've got great power, now can you handle the great responsibility.
 
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