Weird Morals/Cause&Effects in Films

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I watched The Good Shepard awhile back, and basically because the founder of the CIA dedicated himself to his work he neglected his kids which led to his son race mixing which led to Kennedy being Assassinated. I remember being heavily confused about that as did the other people that saw it with me. Especially considering Robert De niro's own oil drilling ways. What are some other examples of crazy stuff like that in films
 
I guess the MCU in general, with Civil War in particular. It kind of brings to a boil about whether super heroes are justified in enacting justice or should they be held accountable by international laws. Which is just arguing about what flavour of authoritarianism you want in a world of god beings. Similarly, Pirates of the Carribean 3 treats pirates as symbols of liberty despite being mainly about hurting the liberty of others.
There is also an upcoming video game I won't name with the moral of "trying to save the person you love from being murdered for a pointless and rash medical experiment is wrong".
Finally, I don't remember a specific movie example, but whenever a character is blamed on doing an action that he has no ability to know beforehand the consequences of.
 
Bioshock Infinite? I still don't know what the moral of that story was, and I don't care either.

I'll see if I can dig up some movie examples from my collection later.
 
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker redeems Ben Solo, a man of roughly 30 who joined space fascists responsible for the literal destruction of multiple planets and personally took part in multiple slaughters. Why is he redeemed? Because he hallucinates that his father (who he killed to gain more edge points) forgave him, and he is in love with the main character.

wtfNeedSignUp dijo:
I guess the MCU in general, with Civil War in particular. It kind of brings to a boil about whether super heroes are justified in enacting justice or should they be held accountable by international laws. Which is just arguing about what flavour of authoritarianism you want in a world of god beings. Similarly, Pirates of the Carribean 3 treats pirates as symbols of liberty despite being mainly about hurting the liberty of others.
There is also an upcoming video game I won't name with the moral of "trying to save the person you love from being murdered for a pointless and rash medical experiment is wrong".
Finally, I don't remember a specific movie example, but whenever a character is blamed on doing an action that he has no ability to know beforehand the consequences of.
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Capeshit in general seems to be designed to make people accept authority. There's also the infamous scene in The Dark Knight where Batman gets access to everyone's phones to form a huge ass sonar radar system, and while Morgan Freeman condemns it they still go through with it anyway.

Actually you know what? All of Nolan's Batman films have weird moral causes and effects. That cop in Rise threw his gun away after killing in self defense for no apparent reason because he had to be set up as Robin and Batman weaseled out of killing Ra's Al Ghul directly.
 
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker redeems Ben Solo, a man of roughly 30 who joined space fascists responsible for the literal destruction of multiple planets and personally took part in multiple slaughters. Why is he redeemed? Because he hallucinates that his father (who he killed to gain more edge points) forgave him, and he is in love with the main character.
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Its almost as if they chose fan service over good plot writing.
 
The premise of the Hunger Games.

About 10 years ago a 9 yr described what she was reading. My take away from that was a story about a bunch of dystopic kids, complete strangers, having to kill one another for food while Elites watched in Olympic fashion. Horrified, I read it to see if the 9 yr was right in her recitation. The 9 yr old was relaying correctly.

Story was atrocious, prose for shit. All the rage with kids (and some adults).

Good wholesome stuff pumped to kid$.

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Limitless is a film where the protagonist gets addicted to what is basically Super Adderall, making him incredibly intelligent as long as he keeps taking it but threatening severe brain damage or death if he goes into withdrawal for too long. It's a classic setup for a tragedy: protagonist accepts a Faustian bargain to achieve his goals, slowly becomes corrupted by abusing his ill-gotten power, and eventually pays the price for his hubris in a way that ironically undercuts whatever he managed to achieve.

The thing is, Limitless isn't actually a tragedy. It plays out like one, but it pulls what should be its final punch and replaces it with even greater rewards for the protagonist. Instead of dying or becoming a vegetable, the protagonist becomes a wealthy man who's running for the U.S. Senate and is on track to become a U.S. President in the future. Not only that, but he's used his galaxy brain powers to engineer an even better version of the drug that grants him permanent Super Adderall powers without any pesky side effects.

Basically the moral of the story is that it's totally cool to use drugs to cheat your way through life so long as you exploit your unfair advantage to gain even more advantage until you're so far ahead that nothing can stop you. :story:
 
Jodorowsky movies. Fando y Lis, El Topo, The Holy Mountain, Santa Sangre - though these could be called fever dreams instead of movies.

Also, if you think about it, the John Wick franchise has a pretty weird moral: don't fuck with a man's dog, 'cause he's going to murder your family, your friends, your employees, everyone you know, just to get even.
 
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