Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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Never realized we had a weight thread. Nice to see one that's not filled with the absolute retardation that they tend to generate.

Odd (and likely impossible) question, but does anyone have suggestions for bicep isolation exercises that don't put direct strain on (or minimize strain on) the elbow? My job gave me a bad case of golfer's elbow on one side and my usual chinup/freeweight rotation would just strain it further. Compounds aside from chinups seem to be fine though so I've just been sticking with those, but it'd be nice to find something I can do when I don't have the equipment handy for them.
I've been using a kettle bell for basic bicep work, i'm having alot of success with it. Here's what i've been doing 5 times a week when i wake up. This is just accessory and not part of my other training that happens in the afternoon i'm using a 35lbs weight atm etc...
 
Never realized we had a weight thread. Nice to see one that's not filled with the absolute retardation that they tend to generate.

Odd (and likely impossible) question, but does anyone have suggestions for bicep isolation exercises that don't put direct strain on (or minimize strain on) the elbow? My job gave me a bad case of golfer's elbow on one side and my usual chinup/freeweight rotation would just strain it further. Compounds aside from chinups seem to be fine though so I've just been sticking with those, but it'd be nice to find something I can do when I don't have the equipment handy for them.
Try messing around with cables. They are the money when it comes to helping out your joints.
I also like Drag Curls and low weights high reps to failure.
A lot of elbow issues actually come from how you hold the weight, and implements like fat grips or EZ curl bars can be a valid option.
 
On the topic of general health, I've been listening to the Low Carb Down Under videos and there's some really interesting stuff there.
One thing I've concluded is that one of the main reasons why American Blacks have such prevalence of hypertension and diabetes is their endemic use of seed oils. The huge amounts of sugar and other simple carbohydrates are a big factor too but you rarely hear anyone telling them to stop frying everything in Crisco.
 
It’s now thirteen days until my first BJJ tournament and I’m really excited. I started in January at 195, still with abs but softer as it was bulking season, and I’m now 175 landing me squarely in middleweight.
I’ve been making every single class and open mat the past seven months, and I’m confident that I can at least put up a good fight for the gi and no gi white belt divisions. My professors say that for a freaky strong bodybuilder I am surprisingly technical (for a white belt), and they don’t BS so I trust their opinions. I have been making a serious effort to use as little strength as possible to get better technique and it seems to be going well so far.
I can’t wait, it’s going to be a blast either way.
 
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Try messing around with cables. They are the money when it comes to helping out your joints.
I also like Drag Curls and low weights high reps to failure.
A lot of elbow issues actually come from how you hold the weight, and implements like fat grips or EZ curl bars can be a valid option.
My bicep routine is usually 100x 90lbs on the curl bar and then finished with a dropset to failure on hammer curls (or lately) using an exercise band for the hammers. I had to back off high weight hammer curls because of elbow issues. I do preachers on occasion too but I always liked Arnold's thought that the curl can be a full body lift and prefer to be in a more athletic position.

I had not seen that drag curl you mentioned but gonna give it a shot looks like a good one.
 
My bicep routine is usually 100x 90lbs on the curl bar and then finished with a dropset to failure on hammer curls (or lately) using an exercise band for the hammers. I had to back off high weight hammer curls because of elbow issues. I do preachers on occasion too but I always liked Arnold's thought that the curl can be a full body lift and prefer to be in a more athletic position.

I had not seen that drag curl you mentioned but gonna give it a shot looks like a good one.
100x90 as in 100 reps in a single set? Or spread out over a certain amount of sets?
Either way, repping out 90 like that on curls is impressive.
 
Kettlebell Cleans and Presses are a great exercise, and the limiting factor would be lower back fatigue with the swings and get-ups, but I personally haven’t had an issue with that. And I do a lot of swinging exercises every which way, so I would certainly try them in your workouts and see how you feel.
Alright so now I see what you mean here. I don't know if the problem was technique or just adding too much at once, but after a few days of this I strained my lower-back-hips-right-side-area. That is of course the scientific term. Did the presses, then ended up having to quit in the middle of swings. First time that's happened in forever. Seem to be feeling better since it happened day before yesterday, but I think I need to reevaluate.
 
Alright so now I see what you mean here. I don't know if the problem was technique or just adding too much at once, but after a few days of this I strained my lower-back-hips-right-side-area. That is of course the scientific term. Did the presses, then ended up having to quit in the middle of swings. First time that's happened in forever. Seem to be feeling better since it happened day before yesterday, but I think I need to reevaluate.
With kettlebells, it's unlike regular lifting in that you shouldn't chase weight you should chase technique.
Once you recover, take it easy and try rotating the exercises. Like one workout swings, the other workout cleans.
For the hips in general, take great care in how you place your feet on the floor and where you keep your weight. Keep your weight in your heels, keep a flat back like a RDL, and drive with the glutes like a squat.
 
With kettlebells, it's unlike regular lifting in that you shouldn't chase weight you should chase technique.
Once you recover, take it easy and try rotating the exercises. Like one workout swings, the other workout cleans.
For the hips in general, take great care in how you place your feet on the floor and where you keep your weight. Keep your weight in your heels, keep a flat back like a RDL, and drive with the glutes like a squat.
I mean, I don't think I was going THAT hard on weight. I was using 25 pounds, which I feel like I've mastered for the Turkish get up.

Rotation is probably a good idea, just not sure how to do it yet. I usually exercise 2 on 1 off. If I end up only doing presses every 3 days (say), is that helping me? I honestly don't know.
 
I mean, I don't think I was going THAT hard on weight. I was using 25 pounds, which I feel like I've mastered for the Turkish get up.

Rotation is probably a good idea, just not sure how to do it yet. I usually exercise 2 on 1 off. If I end up only doing presses every 3 days (say), is that helping me? I honestly don't know.
That would help, and just play it by ear for now and tend towards going easy.
 
A lot of elbow issues actually come from how you hold the weight, and implements like fat grips or EZ curl bars can be a valid option.
Another way of alleviating elbow issues is mixing up regular curls with modified reverse curls (see attached video for correct technique). This is not a beginner exercise and it definitely takes a while to master, but the payoff is well worth it. It's great for your wrists too.
 
Odd (and likely impossible) question, but does anyone have suggestions for bicep isolation exercises that don't put direct strain on (or minimize strain on) the elbow?
You could try some spider curls. Try an EZ bar and dumbbells, use whichever feels better. Another technique I've used to good effect was reverse grip curls. I use an axle bar and only bring my forearms up from extension until they're slightly past 90 degrees (so from full extension the bar is probably even with my belly button). Don't worry too much about what's optimal for hypertrophy in your condition. Try different stuff and see what aggravates your tendons the least until they recover fully. I've endured a similar injury in the past so I know what this is like; don't not lift while you're on the mend.
So, for those of you who do isolation movements for your biceps, how big are your biceps? What circumference?
I roll around with 13.75" cannons myself.
 
It's not weights, but the Airbike is the purest expression of masochism one can do in a gym. On the plus side, my VO2Max is over 70 mL/kg/min so heart and lungs are strong.

Trying to program in new exercises (Power Cleans, Nordic Curls). Power Cleans really are a full body lift, even at low weight. I'm going to hate what this lift feels like at 200+ pounds. On Nordic Curls, I admit, I'm using hands to start the move.
 
Sorry, let me rephrase. Would only doing presses every 3 days or so be enough for the exercise to benefit me? Or is that too big of a gap?
To echo the big guy, for sure it would. As long as you're doing enough work to cause a physiological stimulus and then enabling recovery and adaptation, that's all that matters. I don't know how new you are to this but I can tell you for certain that commitment and consistency will get you 90% of the way towards your goals.
 
To echo the big guy, for sure it would. As long as you're doing enough work to cause a physiological stimulus and then enabling recovery and adaptation, that's all that matters. I don't know how new you are to this but I can tell you for certain that commitment and consistency will get you 90% of the way towards your goals.
I've been semi-consistently doing Simple and Sinister (with much lower weights) for about a year and a half. But I basically just did the exercises that the book told me to and didn't really learn why. Now I'm trying to branch out a little. Progress has been slow, which is fine since I was basically starting from nothing, but I feel like maybe I need to do a few other things at this point.
 
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