Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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This, unironically. Lost 4 kg just by eating less, healthier, and by working out and lifting. Losing weight is piss easy.
Most of us have no willpower when it comes to sugar.

That said, I finally saw the real benefits of my working out today. No, I didn't get a girl's interest or anything, but I was putting together one of those arms for my gigantic monitor, and I managed to get the whole thing mounted up on my desk all on my own. No way I could have done that kind of heavy lifting a year ago.
 
Most of us have no willpower when it comes to sugar.

That said, I finally saw the real benefits of my working out today. No, I didn't get a girl's interest or anything, but I was putting together one of those arms for my gigantic monitor, and I managed to get the whole thing mounted up on my desk all on my own. No way I could have done that kind of heavy lifting a year ago.
Yeah, sugar, dairy products, and other stuff is a killer, especially the former. Substituting "milk" chocolate with 90% chocolate helped me break the addiction somewhat.

Also, seeing the benefits of lifting in your daily activity is always a huge bonus. It was grocery lifting for me that proved I had gotten stronger.
 
Also, seeing the benefits of lifting in your daily activity is always a huge bonus. It was grocery lifting for me that proved I had gotten stronger.
This one's the big one for me. It also brought massive relief to back and knee pain.

Also, more reps, heavier lifts, longer sessions feel like setting a new high score in a video game.
 
That said, I finally saw the real benefits of my working out today. No, I didn't get a girl's interest or anything, but I was putting together one of those arms for my gigantic monitor, and I managed to get the whole thing mounted up on my desk all on my own. No way I could have done that kind of heavy lifting a year ago.
It made me more able to move heavy ass things outside of the gym. During my fast food job there were times my co-workers couldnt lift the bag out of the bin. It was always within front-shoulder raise range for me, or at least upright row range. And I've yet to encounter a batch of groceries too heavy for me

"Stronger people are harder to kill and more useful in general" - Mark Rippetoe (PBUH)
 
Yesterday was back muscles day, so I pulled the full rack on the cable row for 3x10 (260 lbs.) which is above my goal by the end of the year (223 lbs.)

I'm considering switching to one-arms or going back to Barbell Bent Rows.
Are you looking to get stronger or just build a back? If you are trying to build your back then move to barbell rows and t-bar rows. But if you want to get stronger, I would look into deadlifting
 
For back development, weighted and unweighted Chinups are just amazing, and One Armed Dumbbell Rows are a lot better than Barbell Rows because your posterior chain is uninvolved. That allows the back to do all the work, and for hypertrophy that's more ideal than a more 'full body' Bent Over Barbell Row. Seal Rows, and any other chest supported row really, work tremendously.
For the grip issue, it really depends on the nature of the injury but straps are a possibility.
 
I've laid off of all barbell for a few months because two of my fingers got mangled so I didn't trust my grip.

Don't know if it would help in your specific situation, but I recently git a set of Versagrippz Pros and they are awesome. As a fairly new lifter, I quickly got to the point where my grip strength was the limiting factor in certain excercises such as one arm dumbell rows, shrugs, etc. The Versagrippz have have made a massive difference.
 
Don't know if it would help in your specific situation, but I recently git a set of Versagrippz Pros and they are awesome. As a fairly new lifter, I quickly got to the point where my grip strength was the limiting factor in certain excercises such as one arm dumbell rows, shrugs, etc. The Versagrippz have have made a massive difference.
Same here, tbh. Back and pulling muscles outran my grip strength, coped with straps for a while.

But lately I've been building grip strength back up, even and especially in weird positions. One of my drills for this is basically an offset farmers walk, one hand pinches the top edge of a plate, the other holds a kettlebell with the fingertips. There's usually also a weight difference, which I EMBRACE, as it makes the side of my core sore
 
Same here, tbh. Back and pulling muscles outran my grip strength, coped with straps for a while.

But lately I've been building grip strength back up, even and especially in weird positions. One of my drills for this is basically an offset farmers walk, one hand pinches the top edge of a plate, the other holds a kettlebell with the fingertips. There's usually also a weight difference, which I EMBRACE, as it makes the side of my core sore
I use those little grip things while I drive, but other than that I don't really worry about it. I just do my lifts untill my grip starts to loosen, then throw on the versagrippz, I figure it'll take care of itself.
 
I, due to grappling, do a retarded amount of grip and forearm work so I use straps depending on what the purpose of the movement is. If I’m aiming to train the back in specific I use straps, if I’m aiming to train the actual motion of pulling things I either use no straps or fat grips.
 
so i have been thinking about getting into weight lifting is there a particular set of muscles i should focus on first? also are there any good weightlifting exercises that can help build up the lower back or is that best left for other things?
 
so i have been thinking about getting into weight lifting is there a particular set of muscles i should focus on first? also are there any good weightlifting exercises that can help build up the lower back or is that best left for other things?
What are your general goals, and about what level of fitness are you already?
 
so i have been thinking about getting into weight lifting is there a particular set of muscles i should focus on first? also are there any good weightlifting exercises that can help build up the lower back or is that best left for other things?
Compound exercises to start with (i.e ones which work multiple muscles) such as squats, leg press, lat pull downs/rows, pull ups etc would be a good start. Initially go lighter with the weights and work on technique, then add more too it. Once you've got the basics down you can then look into isolation exercises to target particular muscles, consider doing a split across the week mixing both compound and isolation exercises into the same session.

Again, you will need to know what you want out of it. One persons set of exercises might not be right for you and your current level of fitness.

Main thing really is consistency and going multiple times a week. The first month will hurt and the muscle soreness will limit what you can do if you've never done weight lifting before, but you'll be surprised how quickly that fades away and the rate of body recomp which takes place within the first few months (obviously paired with a healthy diet).
 
so i have been thinking about getting into weight lifting is there a particular set of muscles i should focus on first? also are there any good weightlifting exercises that can help build up the lower back or is that best left for other things?
This is a very basic full body program I find works really well. It’s just focused on saving time, building technique and work capacity, some basic mobility, and you can ride this one for a while as it’s bread and butter stuff that just plain works.
The only slightly odd thing is that I prefer people do lower body work with kettlebells when applicable, I find that they do a fine job building the posterior chain and sometimes deadlifts and heavy squats are not the best idea for people careful about their lower back. Kettlebells are just great for that whole area, as well as full body coordination.
For progression, just track your last set and seek to add a rep or two each workout until you can finish the rep range for all sets with the same load. Like, one week for curls you do 50-lbs for 10, 10, 9, then next time 10, 10, 10, and then you go to 55-lbs for 7, 6, 5. So on and so forth. This allows steady progression and you get all the gains you can from that given weight without going too crazy.
And SS just means “superset”, so you do one exercise after the other with minimal rest.
 

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For back development, weighted and unweighted Chinups are just amazing,
I will never shut up about how great calisthenics are as high rep additions to anyone's program. I do these at least 3 times a week, 4 sets AMRAP, BW only. They're also far superior to curls of any type for bicep hypertrophy, unless one is actually going for bodybuilding. Someone else has called them a compound lift for the biceps, which I think is accurate.

Another great back development movement that gets overlooked are ring rows. If you don't have access to rings, setup an inverted row instead. Start easy to get the technique down. Once you're good there (and it will take a bit), add volume. I promise the body can handle much more than you think as long as you're smart about recovery.

I repeat some things often because I want newer lifters to learn from my mistakes. Don't waste precious time reinventing the wheel.
 
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