Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

[MS Paint Gigachad]

You can totally eat raw eggs if you're living in US/JP because it's mandatory to wash eggs there, unless you're buying unwashed ones from a small farmer or something.

The real reason you should cook eggs is..

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... And then there's CarnivoreMD (whom I dislike) who is a proponent for eating raw eggs, but only the yolks (which is advice I dislike)

Also it's kinda ironic that in the US it's mandatory to wash eggs (to prevent salmonella) but apparently in europe it's mandatory to NOT wash them (to prevent salmonella)

As for myself, well, I'm a cooked whole egg enjoyer. I soft-boil them at minimum, which retains the soupy, liquidy consistency of a raw egg, while presumably reducing the salmonella/biotin deficiency risk

 

[Johnny Salami]

A couple of months ago, I saw a young guy with nasty stretch marks on his chest. Yesterday I saw a different guy with similar stretch marks. What are they doing to get that? Are they not drinking enough water or something?

I have some on my shoulders. I wanted huge shoulders so when I started lifting seriously I had 2 shoulder days as well as hitting them on chest day. My shoulders grew really fast especially since I did hang cleaned and presses as my main.

You mean on 4chan?
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outside the general /fit/ is pretty terrible. I can't even enjoy /fph/ knowing architects use it

 

[anustart76]

They were wearing tanktops at the gym and were probably building muscle fast. The stretch marks were on the chest near the front deltoid. Didn't know it was common, are there other areas of the body the stretching occurs and ways to avoid it?

In addition to the other answers, these can occur during puberty too because of growth spurts, though they'll fade with time.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Though, I still have to see a natty, not endomorph grow muscle so fast he gets stretch marks.

I'm not an endomorph and I've never used any kind of PED's.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

I hate the whole ectomorph/endomorph/mesomorph concept.

Spoiler: SPERG

It's similar to the "Schrodinger's Genetics" Question/Overly Trigger-Happy Fake Natty Accusations to me.

Schrodinger's Genetics:
If the guy is jacked, he must have good genetics.
If the guy is not jacked, he must have bad genetics.

Overly Trigger-Happy Fake Natty Accusations:
If the guy is jacked, he must be on gear.
If the guy is not on gear, he will not be jacked.

Ectomorph/mesomorph/endomorph theory:
If the guy is skinny/puts on muscle slowly, he must be an ectomorph.
If the guy is fat/puts on muscle quickly, he must be an endomorph.
If the guy is somewhere in the middle, he must be a mesomorph.

Although these theories are all about different things, the one thing they have in common is assuming ONE FACTOR (genetics, gear, body type) to be behind the "results" (being jacked, being built a certain way), when multiple other factors may be at play (training history, amount of food eaten, daily physical activity etc) and WILL confound your guesses about their genetics/PED usage/body type. If I show them a guy who grew up poor and ate very little, and as a result is skinny, some proponent of the somatotype theory would probably tell me he's an endomorph. Taken to it's logical conclusion: would they tell me there's a rise in ectomorphs every time there's a drought in Africa?

Better yet, if I took two brothers and separated them, forcing a high-calorie diet on one and feeding the other less, the one fed plenty would be fatter, no matter what "somatotype" he was. Ectomorphs cannot defy the laws of thermodynamics. Supposedly this photo shows 2 identical twins who pursued different sports: I could just as easily have labeled it "TYPICAL ECTOMORPH (AGED 23)/TYPICAL ENDOMORPH (AGED 24)"


I wish I could bring this rant to an inspiring conclusion. I guess if I had to condense all this into a sentence, it would probably be that you should probably experiment and see if there's anything at all that works before slapping the "I have shit for genetics"/"doomed to be not jacked" label on yourself.

- If we're fucked and you think we're fucked, nothing changes.
- If we're fucked and you're optimistic, nothing changes.
- If we're not fucked and you think we're fucked, we might become fucked.
- If we're not fucked and you stay optimistic, we make it through.

-Null

- If you'll never be jacked and you think you'll never be jacked, nothing changes.
- If you'll never be jacked and you're optimistic, nothing changes.
- If you can become jacked and you think you'll never be jacked, you might never become jacked.
- If you can become jacked and you stay optimistic, you will become jacked.

-Corporate Gigachad

That is all.

 

[CharcoalChkn]

Happy New Year lifting kiwis.

Time to enter the most beloved time of the year for those who regularly train at public gyms.

I am working hard on getting abs this year, no small feat for a woman I have heard, it will be done though, I am determined. They are there, just hidden under a layer of loose skin since I fucked up and lost weight too fast instead of taking it slowly. I was warned this would be the consequence but it is what it is.

Best wishes to everyone's gain goals this year!

 

[Iron Jaguar]

I guess if I had to condense all this into a sentence, it would probably be that you should probably experiment and see if there's anything at all that works before slapping the "I have shit for genetics"/"doomed to be not jacked" label on yourself

I would tend to agree with this. In my...oh...fifteen years of weight training, my observation has been that the vast majority of men who cannot gain muscle a) eat insufficiently i.e. do not understand nutrition or metabolism and b) simply do not know how to train correctly.

I can't even tell you the number of guys I've heard say, "But I eat heaps!", then proceed to describe their breakfast as two slices of toast and a cup of coffee.

 

[realitysurf]

I hate the whole ectomorph/endomorph/mesomorph concept.

It's a pseudoscientific concept but yeah, I fucking hate the genetics circlejerk of the lifting community.

 

[Hot Dog]

PR'd 2 of my 3 lifts, bench at 335lbs and dead at 560lbs. Blew it on squat, only hit 420 (haha) but there's always next time. Was fun, would recommend going out if you can.

 

[pork and beans]

Got a question for you guys, Why did you start lifting?

For me it was because I had to pass a physical fitness test (I was really unfit at the time) by the army and while I was ultimately rejected on medical grounds, there was a sense of pride and accomplishment at seeing the weights and reps go up

for me i was pretty unhappy and since i like sports i decided to try lifting LOL and it worked im happy now

Happy New Year lifting kiwis.

Time to enter the most beloved time of the year for those who regularly train at public gyms.

I am working hard on getting abs this year, no small feat for a woman I have heard, it will be done though, I am determined. They are there, just hidden under a layer of loose skin since I fucked up and lost weight too fast instead of taking it slowly. I was warned this would be the consequence but it is what it is.

Best wishes to everyone's gain goals this year!

ive recently started training abs more as well! from doing floor crunches and stuff i can tell my core is way more tight, but ive started doing abs in the incline bench and i can feel them so much more its amazing. totally recommend if theres one at your gym

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

I've struggled to get into a routine of any sorts of workouts. I do it for a week or two, then quit. I am thinking of joining a gym and paying for a few training sessions to teach me the basics and get access to good equipment (right now I do what little I do at home).

Has anyone struggled with starting a consistent routine like me found paying a trainer useful to getting started and sticking with it? How much can I expect to pay (World Gym is who I'm looking at)? I know it's going to vary based on gym and region, so personal experience is fine. I'm just looking for a ballpark figure.

I'm pretty sure once I start seeing results I'll stick with it, but it's so easy to put it off here at home.

 

[Billy Bob Dick]

I've struggled to get into a routine of any sorts of workouts. I do it for a week or two, then quit. I am thinking of joining a gym and paying for a few training sessions to teach me the basics and get access to good equipment (right now I do what little I do at home).

Has anyone struggled with starting a consistent routine like me found paying a trainer useful to getting started and sticking with it? How much can I expect to pay (World Gym is who I'm looking at)? I know it's going to vary based on gym and region, so personal experience is fine. I'm just looking for a ballpark figure.

I'm pretty sure once I start seeing results I'll stick with it, but it's so easy to put it off here at home.

My basic routine is calisthenics. I do it six days/week typically, rest on Sundays. I lift 2-3 times/week in addition, mostly dumbbells and hex bar deadlift.
You need to set yourself up with a basic, minimal routine that you can do as a daily chore. Like, on days when I simply do not have the mental or physical energy to do anything strenuous I have a "bare minimum" routine:

• 10 jumping jacks
• 5 air squats
• 10 back extensions
• 10 pushups
• 20 situps

This takes me all of 5 minutes, and it works as maintenance when I just can't bring myself to do more. I've done even less on occasion, like maybe 10 situps and that's it. The point is that anything is always better than nothing.

 

[Accept Only Substitutes]

My basic routine is calisthenics. I do it six days/week typically, rest on Sundays. I lift 2-3 times/week in addition, mostly dumbbells and hex bar deadlift.
You need to set yourself up with a basic, minimal routine that you can do as a daily chore. Like, on days when I simply do not have the mental or physical energy to do anything strenuous I have a "bare minimum" routine:

• 10 jumping jacks
• 5 air squats
• 10 back extensions
• 10 pushups
• 20 situps

This takes me all of 5 minutes, and it works as maintenance when I just can't bring myself to do more. I've done even less on occasion, like maybe 10 situps and that's it. The point is that anything is always better than nothing.

This is a really good idea. I'm glad I thought of it. I like the idea of doing it as a chore. If I can do my dishes every day I can do a few minutes of exercise. Thanks fren! I'll get started right away.

 

[kurosawa]

Got a question for you guys, Why did you start lifting?

Sophomore year in college, gf had just broken up with me and I had a roommate who was also interested in getting in shape. I was the skinny soccer guy in HS that my parents never realized would have benefited from lifting.

Now that I'm way older I don't seem to have the health problems other people have. I've also changed my attitude towards it - focus on being able to lift when I'm 60s/70s so I'm not lifting as heavy as I used to.

 

[CharcoalChkn]

Has anyone else noticed an uptick recently in people saying they find body builders/muscular people unattractive?

I wonder what the reasoning is? Is it cope that they are blobs and will never be able to compete with fit people of the same gender for a mate, or too lazy that they can't be bothered to be healthy and keep up with a potential partner so just say it's gross and unattractive making themselves not the problem?

It's certainly a trend I've been seeing on Twitter and Reddit (I know........not the best places to see sane people responses) wondering if people have noticed on other social media though.

 

[Vingle]

Has anyone else noticed an uptick recently in people saying they find body builders/muscular people unattractive?

Nah, I don't spend time around normies. But personally, I have never liked the big look bodybuilders seem to go for. Just give me something in the middle between the two extremes.

Something something about unconsciously knowing it's unhealthy to be that big, and have that low of a bodyfat %.
If bodybuilders were the epitome of beauty, you would see them more as fashion models. Bodybuilders are niche, and the majority don't like the look of overly big persons in way way too much self tan that reminds more of diarrhoea.

But yea, in terms of normal fit people. It might be a cope, as it feels "threatening" for them to come across a fit person. It's a good thing the retards are vocal about it, as it just makes it easier to sort out the trash. As they probably are and will neglect other parts of health.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

Has anyone else noticed an uptick recently in people saying they find body builders/muscular people unattractive?

I wonder what the reasoning is? Is it cope that they are blobs and will never be able to compete with fit people of the same gender for a mate, or too lazy that they can't be bothered to be healthy and keep up with a potential partner so just say it's gross and unattractive making themselves not the problem?

It's certainly a trend I've been seeing on Twitter and Reddit (I know........not the best places to see sane people responses) wondering if people have noticed on other social media though.

Professional body building has always been and remains rife with corruption and roids.
There is a difference between feeling good about yourself and turning into some weird monstrosity.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Has anyone else noticed an uptick recently in people saying they find body builders/muscular people unattractive?

I wonder what the reasoning is?

It's part of a carefully concerted campaign to normalise sloth and ugliness. Have a think about how all advertisements these days feature nothing but obese negresses or purple hairs with septum piercings. (((They))) are trying to destroy the beautiful and the good. It is about ruining the West and what made the West great.

 

[Big Al's Famous Pork]

It's part of a carefully concerted campaign to normalise sloth and ugliness. Have a think about how all advertisements these days feature nothing but obese negresses or purple hairs with septum piercings. (((They))) are trying to destroy the beautiful and the good. It is about ruining the West and what made the West great.

Actual retarded take.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Actual retarded take.

Live in denial, my guy. There are none so blind as those who will not see.