Weightlifting for Kiwis - Discussion and support regarding the art of swole

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What do people think of adjustable dumb bells like these ( See Pic ):

I want to get into lifting at home since the closest gym to me is over 10 miles.
I think they are a great option. You can store them without taking up a lot of room and you can change the weight in small increments.
 
What do people think of adjustable dumb bells like these ( See Pic ):

I want to get into lifting at home since the closest gym to me is over 10 miles.

I had some during lockdown and never used them because the spin collars made changing the weights unbearably tedious. If you think you won’t mind that, go for it.
 
I had some during lockdown and never used them because the spin collars made changing the weights unbearably tedious. If you think you won’t mind that, go for it.
Just put all the weights on it at once fren.

No, they are a bit annoying to use, but not as annoying as a barbell with about a foot of threads.
 
What do people think of adjustable dumb bells like these ( See Pic ):

I want to get into lifting at home since the closest gym to me is over 10 miles.

Fuck, I envy you. This stuff costs a fuckload of money on my neck of the woods, cheapest one I could find was around 600 bucks, I could afford a 6 months gym membership for that price!

I did buy a starter kettlebell, around 10 lbs. Any good exercises for these?
 
Is it normal to become noticeably stronger while still maintaining thin twig-like limbs?
It is not about the twigness.
Body is just starting to tap the potential, because it is needed. Be it nerves or muscle cells reacting to stress or what ever.

It is almost the same as trying to do squats warmed up vs cold. Couple of months though... More or less regularly, there has already been some muscle development as well.

After long break from legworkouts my first work out might have like half weights in some movements compered to fourth workout I do legs two weeks later.
 
Anyone consistently done stomach vacuums for x amount of time? All the heavy farmers walks I've done for years have thickened up my core, so I'm gonna start doing these every day to see if I can shrink my waist.
Never tried these, tbh seemed kinda memey.

Leg lifts aka 6" inches work to keep abs flatter now I have my trap bar farmers walks are something I'm doing a lot more of.
 
Never tried these, tbh seemed kinda memey.

Leg lifts aka 6" inches work to keep abs flatter now I have my trap bar farmers walks are something I'm doing a lot more of.

Yeah. Bodybuilders are not training consistently vacuum. For them it would be very beneficial if it worked like that, they want that thin midsection. Now they are the experts in that stuff and they don't do it, so I do think it is just memey.

Well, Arnold said he did them every morning on an empty stomach, or at least I read that. I'll keep doing them and see if I notice a difference and report back in 3 months.
 
Arnold said he did them every morning on an empty stomach
Oh. Well time must have left the technique behind because never have heard any other mentioning it, in any other context than pose practice. Though have not followed that many bodybuilders material. So few of them have good content.

Had to go check the pros I have followed. On John Meadows, RIP, channel there is video with pro Josh Wade. And guy says every morning. But it is just improving his vacuum pose, not making his waste smaller.

* I am talking shit, he goes on to talk about it having effect on physique.
 
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Oh. Well time must have left the technique behind because never have heard any other mentioning it, in any other context than pose practice. Though have not followed that many bodybuilders material. So few of them have good content.

Had to go check the pros I have followed. On John Meadows, RIP, channel there is video with pro Josh Wade. And guy says every morning. But it is just improving his vacuum pose, not making his waste smaller.

* I am talking shit, he goes on to talk about it having effect on physique.
Good video, and I definitely feel the pain they talk about, so I guess I'm doing it right. IDGAF about posing, just thought it might help to tighten things up and shrink the waist.
 
Nothing wrong with that and you're willing to put yourself via the test.

Every body is different in both the meanings of the word and every training group is different, so maybe it might work.

Please do try it and run through and report back. I always think someone wiling to try something even if it doesn't apply is great for the community of people who lift. I do wish you the best.
 
It's been a while since I logged into my kiwi account. Never thought it would be a lifting thread that forced me into resetting my password.

I've had a few phases of working out seriously in the 2 decades I've been an adult, but never did stick with it for more than 2 yrs at a time, and never really had the knowledge to make the most of that time. Pussyfooted around with machines and cable lifts too much.

Until I was bit by the bug again back in Feb this year. I decided I was going to really put on some muscle mass and master the big compound lifts (Bench, Squat, Deadlift, etc). I spent the first couple months working the rust off and gradually incorporated the lifts I was less familiar with (squats, dead, military).

But since starting, I've went from 155lbs to a decently solid 180lbs. My most consistent lift has been the bench, which climbed from 115lbs×5 to 175×3. Nagging pain in my right shoulder joint has forced me to readjust my workout after considerable progress.

I was doing the "Big 5" lifts three days a week (M-W-F and sometimes a weekend day), my maxes the last time I did this program:

Bench - 175 x 3
Squat - 215 × 5
Military - 105 x 5
Bent Row - 115 × 5
Dead - 205 x 4

The last two weeks, I tinkered my program to switch to a less intense workout that gives my joints a break. I settled on a (still 3 days a week) mostly ISO dumbbell with Chest/Shoulder Mondays, Back/Arms Wednesday and Legs Friday.

I hesitated to halt my mass program, the spirit was willing but the body wasn't. I felt I would lose my gains and only see progress in definition, but I'm pleasantly surprised by the initial results. The heavy compound lifts gave me a nice foundation that the moderate-reps DBs are building upon nicely (prob also helped by moving from a routine full body program to one that focuses on specific muscle groups).

I'm trying to focus on building up the weak links in my chain by hitting specific areas of each muscle (lower chest, rear delts, lower traps, etc). Having fun trying different lifts, especially ones that force me to use light weight as that's an indicator to me of muscle that needed work (a flat bench pullover-raise using a barbell was hitting my chest, lats, shoulders and even core very nicely and Arnold Presses with DBs are becoming a favorite).

Best of all, the right rotator cuff that had become a daily nuisance at best, hasn't bothered me in days. I think I'll return to the compound lifts after 6-8 wks with this program, and try to blast my bench past 200lbs hopefully (I'd love to get 225lbs = 2x45 plates).

But enough of jerking myself off . . .

Do you guys have any tips for lifting while working an 8-5? I usually have fuckall energy at the end of the day and not sure what my strategy should be. I think I will try drinking coffee near the end of the day

I'm thankful I've never had an issue working out after work. I can't imagine going as hard in the gym first thing in the am. I tend to spend the day loading up carbs and protein, and using my fairly labor-intensive job to warm up whatever muscles I plan on targeting in the gym that day. My pre-wo usually consists of some protein-heavy greek yogurt, two servings of oatmeal, either some juice or milk, maybe a half cup of trail mix and a Bang energy drink just before the drive to the gym. The only supplements I take are vitamins (A, B, Magnesium, Iron, Tumeric, CoQ10, DHEA and a regular ol' multivit), but with advancing age (nearing 40) I can really tell a difference with them.

Every one's body is different, but I feel like my all day loading/supplements/warm-ups makes my time in the gym so much more productive. And I'm able to manage this with a full time job, a disabled wife and kids at home, so it should be feasible for anyone to have an hour and a half to spare after a long day at work. But if mornings work best for you, I'd recommend drinking a good amount of water first thing in the am, and eating a combination of high carbs and lean protein (2 or 3 eggs and milk, wheat toast, some Greek yogurt and a little juice should fuel a solid workout, but you'll definitely need something for recovery post-WO to start the rest of your day, a nice protein smoothie maybe?).

The only things that matter in terms of gym progress are lifting enough weight to stimulate muscle growth, hitting your macros to supply that muscle growth and getting enough sleep to allow your body to build the muscles, and that's it. Eat, Lift and Sleep. It's up to you how to fit that in and still have a normal productive day.
 
"Big 5" lifts three days a week ... muh shoulder


39 here. If I was doing all those 3 times a week. After two weeks I would be so fucking broken.
And my damn shoulder would resign if that was all I did. Need some over the head movements for my shoulder, can feel like the opposite when shoulder is giving shit, but that seems to be only thing keeping my right one going. Took damn year of pain for me to learn it, meaning I stopped doing it and didn't do it because shoulder was not feeling like it is good for it. Time did not cure shit. Mobility.
 
39 here. If I was doing all those 3 times a week. After two weeks I would be so fucking broken.
And my damn shoulder would resign if that was all I did. Need some over the head movements for my shoulder, can feel like the opposite when shoulder is giving shit, but that seems to be only thing keeping my right one going. Took damn year of pain for me to learn it, meaning I stopped doing it and didn't do it because shoulder was not feeling like it is good for it. Time did not cure shit. Mobility.
38 here. Tbf, I think it was when I added deadlifts later in my program that really started stressing it.

And yes, I've been working on mobility as part of this program I'm currently doing. The whole point is to strengthen the weak points in my physical chain so that they can better withstand the stress I'll be putting on them when I return to those compound lifts.

Overhead movements aren't where it's at for me tho. Internal/External rotations have been good, as well as front and lateral raises, reverse flys, etc. I'm not just sitting back waiting for the joint to heal itself, rather I'm doing lower weight, higher rep lifts that emphasize my range and mobility.

But even saying that, I'm always progressively overloading. As long as I'm not experiencing pain, I'm adding weight, sets and/or reps. If any issues present themselves as the load increases, I'll deal with it as needed. A lot of lifting discomfort can be attributed to bad form as well. My squat progress was hindered for a while due to thoracic outlet pain (the mess of arteries and nerves running from the neck thru the collarbone and down the bicep). But a little research and tinkering in the rack got it sorted out, and I'm sure I could tighten up my bench form as well, but I'll work on that when I start back lifting less than I left off with (175lbs x 3)
 
I used to be into resistance bands. I still think they are good for home use or if you're traveling.
Bands are cool (while I don't use or own them) because they have such a big range of resistance, not trying to bash them, but my grand ma uses em. Helps her build good balance, important for older people.

I know people who do Spartan run shit often and use em. That flexibility is huge and really good, like what are you going to do with a 3lb dumb bell? Also "weights" scare people off.
 
39 here. If I was doing all those 3 times a week. After two weeks I would be so fucking broken.
And my damn shoulder would resign if that was all I did. Need some over the head movements for my shoulder, can feel like the opposite when shoulder is giving shit, but that seems to be only thing keeping my right one going. Took damn year of pain for me to learn it, meaning I stopped doing it and didn't do it because shoulder was not feeling like it is good for it. Time did not cure shit. Mobility.
I am a similar age, do all that, plus an additional 3 days of cardio/conditioning and feel fine. Maybe up the cardio/conditioning? I am fortunate that I work for myself from home, cook all my own meals and have a nap sometimes during the day, so no 9-5 rush helps a lot in recovery, more so than I probably realise.

Scrap that, I misread, he's doing all those 3 times a week, damn that is a lot of work.
 
Looks like I'm gonna make it, bros. I chose not to do the extra cardio and climb up the 14 flights of stairs to my apartment (I can climb them practically non-stop, hell of a workout finisher for my legs) and took the elevator instead, and a tenant riding the elevator asked me if I do any MMA or boxing... told him I don't, I just train, and said "bro with your size I'd be fighting dudes all the time!"

Massive ego boost right there, first time I got noticed, haha.


And speaking of cardio, I've noticed that after weighing myself every day and having the same weight (between 227lbs and 235lbs/103kg to 105kg), my diet is basically at "maintenance" level. I am definitely getting stronger, but still have one "love handle" that I want to get rid of before my abs start to show. Guess I'll just stick to my current diet for another 6 more months or so, then work on it to start cutting a bit.

It's cool to be swole but I kinda want my abs to start showing for a change.
 
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