Weight loss support thread

[Imp]

I got back from vacation last week, 12 days of eating out, thinking I'd be up 5 lbs, especially since I skipped taking tirzepatide for 13 days but I'm down again, to 117 lbs. Un-freaking-heard-of. I should adjust my dose down to 5 mg/week but I am still dealing with granny (my mom) going into assisted living with a fractured pelvis and my husband's mass of unknown in his lung. I tend to stress starve, so who knows? I am at an excellent weight now, just need to add some muscle.

 

[Fat Camp Intern]

I got back from vacation last week, 12 days of eating out, thinking I'd be up 5 lbs, especially since I skipped taking tirzepatide for 13 days but I'm down again, to 117 lbs. Un-freaking-heard-of. I should adjust my dose down to 5 mg/week but I am still dealing with granny (my mom) going into assisted living with a fractured pelvis and my husband's mass of unknown in his lung. I tend to stress starve, so who knows? I am at an excellent weight now, just need to add some muscle.

It takes 10-14 days of eating at maintenance for acute metabolic downregulation to ease up after a period of intense restriction. This is what I tried to tell @Fish and Chips who has been struck in a stress cycle for 20 years.

What happens is that extracellular water in your adipose tissue that was there in place of burnt fat gets a chance to drain out once adequate food is detected. It's called the "whoosh effect". So you likely did gain 5 pounds, but lost 10 pounds of water. Your true weight was likely 107 with 10lbs water. The kidneys also dump sodium as aldosterone levels normalize, which also carries water weight with it.

Funny because I just started my 14 day refeed at maintenance.

EDIT: after eating 3000 cals yesterday I dumped water weight and was 193.2 this morning, down from 193.8. So even after gorging on food I still lost. That's exactly the mechanism taking place.

Will be interesting to see how much I regain though over the next two weeks.

 

[Fish and Chips]

I don't know how you lost your 20 pounds originally, but it's possible if you did it through intense caloric restriction or crash dieting that your body has basically been screaming for a refeed for 20 years. It's important to repair the metabolism after an intense period of fat loss. One of the ways to do this successfully is through increased carbohydrate intake. I call it metabolic priming. It prepares for the next cutting phase. You seem stuck in a cortisol / exercise / leptin stress cycle.

I never said I crash dieted or restricted.

What helps my food noise: Eating more protein. What doesn't help my food noise: Sugar and carbs. When I eat carbs, I want more carbs. And yes, I am aware of the Biggest Loser studies.

Some people have naturally lower appetites. Some people lose their appetites when they're stressed. Some people have naturally higher appetites. Some people eat their feelings. I am someone who has a naturally higher appetite.

Everyone wants that magic button "If I just swap this, I'll be thin" or "I have X disorder, so it's not my fault I'm fat". My friend lost 80 lbs by swapping regular soda for diet soda. Unfortunately, I don't drink soda.

How did I lose 20 lbs almost 20 years ago? I stopped eating junk food every day, drastically cut down my alcohol consumption, and started exercising. The whole "eat less better, and move more". It worked. How do I maintain it almost 20 years later? By meal planning with whole foods, weighing food and tracking calories in the My Net Diary app to make sure I stay within my goal of ~1600 calories (I was drastically underestimating the calories in red meat, and a teaspoon of oil is actually a very small amount), and making exercise a part of my lifestyle.

Unfortunately, it is a lifestyle.

We're pulling 12-hour days this week for an on-site, with fast food and junk food readily available. I packed my own meals and went for a walk at lunch to counteract the 11 hours sitting at a desk and in meetings. I'm not saying this to humble brag - it's to show that I have to plan my day.

It takes 10-14 days of eating at maintenance for acute metabolic downregulation to ease up after a period of intense restriction. This is what I tried to tell @Fish and Chips who has been struck in a stress cycle for 20 years.

You will never be a woman doctor.

 

[Fat Camp Intern]

My Net Diary app to make sure I stay within my goal of ~1600 calories

This is dangerously low for an active adult. Which is entirely my point: you are perpetually stuck in a cortisol stress cycle. You SHOULDNT be constantly hungry. And you SHOULD eat carbs if you crave them.

This is your body screaming at you to restore your metabolism and get back to true maintenance calories. 1600 is not maintenance. You should be eating 2200+. I know women eating 4,000 a day, high carb low fat. They're lean and in shape.

Don't take the truth personally. Learn. Grow. The doctor comment is retarded so I won't comment on it. Doctors don't know shit about diet and fatloss and barely take 2 weeks of nutrition in college.

 

[Getmeout]

I’m gonna start losing weight cause my dad won’t stop being mad at me unless I do. I know last time I lost a bunch of weight with the cheat day method but I wanna lose it NOW NOW NOW so I’ll probably just fast a ton. My family gets mad when I don’t eat though cause they’re scared I’ll relapse into my ED, but like who cares whatever.

 

[Sneaky lurker]

I’m gonna start losing weight cause my dad won’t stop being mad at me unless I do. I know last time I lost a bunch of weight with the cheat day method but I wanna lose it NOW NOW NOW so I’ll probably just fast a ton. My family gets mad when I don’t eat though cause they’re scared I’ll relapse into my ED, but like who cares whatever.

Why is your family made up of looksmaxxers? Why are they inspecting your erections?
How effective is walking every day? I typically walk for 2 hours before going back.

 

[Swine Schwein]

About planning shit, I'm already planning my next bulk, which should be before winter if I don't mess up. Oh man it's gonna be fucking amazing. There will be no math. There will be no decency. I'm going to be even more retarded than last time. I will morph in and out of biological conventions. My morality and my species will be questioned.

Amberlynns and Chantals and Boogies are all amateurs. They stop when it starts to hurt. They taste the ice cream before they swallow it down. I know they do. I've seen it. I hate them for that, and for that alone. I will go where they can't.

"But that's not what bulking is" STFU. Yes it is. That's exactly what it is. People like you can't hold me down. I will do what must be done. Give me my gains or give me death. And ice cream

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

My old jeans done fell off of me today, so diet is going well. I don’t weigh myself (ED history), but if I had to guess I’d say I’m probably 20 pounds from my size goal, which is the equivalent of a US non vanity sized 8. Had a neighbour fail to recognise me at fete de voisins last week, which felt pretty good. Now that the glp nausea is finally gone, it’s time to focus more on fitness.

 

[Swine Schwein]

fete de voisins

That's not a real thing. It's a made-up word in a pretend language. You only said it to get someone like me to react to it. Why? What do you get from this?

 

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It takes 10-14 days of eating at maintenance for acute metabolic downregulation to ease up after a period of intense restriction. This is what I tried to tell @Fish and Chips who has been struck in a stress cycle for 20 years.

What happens is that extracellular water in your adipose tissue that was there in place of burnt fat gets a chance to drain out once adequate food is detected. It's called the "whoosh effect". So you likely did gain 5 pounds, but lost 10 pounds of water. Your true weight was likely 107 with 10lbs water. The kidneys also dump sodium as aldosterone levels normalize, which also carries water weight with it.

Funny because I just started my 14 day refeed at maintenance.

EDIT: after eating 3000 cals yesterday I dumped water weight and was 193.2 this morning, down from 193.8. So even after gorging on food I still lost. That's exactly the mechanism taking place.

Will be interesting to see how much I regain though over the next two weeks.

What the heck did he do to get banned?

 

[SOLDIER OF WALES]

I've finally figured out how to cook chicken (specifically chicken breast tenderloin, haven't done breast or anything) without deep/air frying it. Big issue with my weight loss is that I want to maintain muscle but need a good bit of protein (160g) but im ultra-restricted on calories so its hard. I'd cook chicken breast and such and it'd just come out dry and tasting like dogshit but in my infinite wisdom I've discovered how to properly cook now and losing weight is so much easier now.

I did some goofy shit where I had like 14 chicken wings at 5 am and I didn't feel the need to eat until about 4 PM since proteins a good hunger suppressant. I think I'm going to have a super easy time losing weight this time around now even though I'm going farther down to 12% BF instead of 18%.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I was on a 1500 kcal diet during my gap years. It wanted me to make 5 small meals a day and I got so fucking tired of constantly making food I just skipped half of them. I also got obsessed with the aching burn of not having eaten. I probably ate 1300 or less a day. It worked until I plateaued at 85kg and not until I started fasting did I drop under 80 (while eating like a slop when I do eat). It becomes "when" to eat, not "what".

I see fat coworkers do all kinds of silly little things: Oh I only have a banana in the morning (breaking fast for a fucking banana?). Oh I just have sweetened tea (again, breaking fast). "Oh I skip lunch, teehee, I eat when I get home!" (try 'overeating'). I'm not one to say fasting works (it does, in all ways), but every single one of these weak-willed fuckheads ended up on ozempic, of which you regain 80% of your weight once you're off it.

It's honestly embarrassing how people think they're building willpower by not eating as much on ozempic, their body literally telling them not to eat as much, that when the body goes "nvm eat a lot", they'll be too stoic to succumb.

 

[Jacknife]

Down to 185 but I lost a rep both on deadlifts and on bench

Now this might be just a result from continued dieting but if this continues I am gonna do a maintenance week.

Upside is that I am now up to 7 pull-ups but that is expected

Lifts went up again, todays results were inconclusive though.

Down to 181lbs, still need to lose more, I started drinking decaf green tea which is one of the few supplements that actually work, can't say for sure but my energy levels seem to have increased.