💰 Grifter Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Vic's fans would be rather terrible at their mission if that were the goal, since they've succeeded in proving his innocence time and again and not a single one of the people who have harassed and defamed him have had their lives ruined. They have in fact accomplished the opposite of their goal over and over for the past 3 years. More seriously, these stale takes are honestly why I stopped actively trying to keep up with KV vs ISWV back in like 2020. These people will never change their tune, they'll never apologize, they'll never back down. They will nonstop, psychotically defame Vic as if they were subjected to a soviet re-conditioning camp solely revolving around 'Vic must be defamed at literally every opportunity, in every possible way'. I'm honestly shocked at this point no one has claimed Vic committed a murder, but I guess nobody cares about literal murder, only bad touching, so there's no backpats to be garnered there.

Ragolor has the right of it. The only point to engage with those people, if you choose to, is to mock them and move on. They transcend beyond 'bad faith' arguments to some term heretofore unimagined. Nothing will ever convince them or shake their devotion to their cause, because the truth and literal reality means nothing to them. All that matters are the internet points they get from dunking on a designated target, and not a single one of them has enough influence to find a new target to rally and attack after 3 years of this, so they cling desperately to "VIC BAD" because if they ever, for any reason, gave up on that one thing they have they'd fade away into obscurity forever. Without notifications of hearts and retweets each day, they might as well be dead.

I assure you, if any of them outlive Vic, they will continue to attack him relentlessly without rest even after he is literally gone, because they have nothing else now.
not just since COVID. Streamers that don't intentionally show their legs on stream RARELY wore pants even in the beforetimes. It literally became a meme in stream communities to just assume "Mr. Strimmer" isn't wearing pants or didn't even have legs to begin with because it happened so often that they weren't wearing pants
It's gone further now that we have vtuber personas, as they (both male and female) often imply they're wearing less than a full shirt as well. Apparently people are just desperate to walk around in just their underwear in their homes, and any opportunity they get to come as close to that as possible while still earning money they'll take. Shamelessly.
I dunno why, but I'm still addicted to this corpsey place. Didn't help that Vic doing a boomer attracted spergs again.
You can log off, but you can never leave.
 
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Apparently people are just desperate to walk around in just their underwear in their homes, and any opportunity they get to come as close to that as possible while still earning money they'll take. Shamelessly.
i mean i often walk around in my underwear at home too but i also don't need to worry about anybody seeing me because again: At home.
 
Vic's fans would be rather terrible at their mission if that were the goal, since they've succeeded in proving his innocence time and again and not a single one of the people who have harassed and defamed him have had their lives ruined. They have in fact accomplished the opposite of their goal over and over for the past 3 years. More seriously, these stale takes are honestly why I stopped actively trying to keep up with KV vs ISWV back in like 2020. These people will never change their tune, they'll never apologize, they'll never back down. They will nonstop, psychotically defame Vic as if they were subjected to a soviet re-conditioning camp solely revolving around 'Vic must be defamed at literally every opportunity, in every possible way'. I'm honestly shocked at this point no one has claimed Vic committed a murder, but I guess nobody cares about literal murder, only bad touching, so there's no backpats to be garnered there.

Ragolor has the right of it. The only point to engage with those people, if you choose to, is to mock them and move on. They transcend beyond 'bad faith' arguments to some term heretofore unimagined. Nothing will ever convince them or shake their devotion to their cause, because the truth and literal reality means nothing to them. All that matters are the internet points they get from dunking on a designated target, and not a single one of them has enough influence to find a new target to rally and attack after 3 years of this, so they cling desperately to "VIC BAD" because if they ever, for any reason, gave up on that one thing they have they'd fade away into obscurity forever. Without notifications of hearts and retweets each day, they might as well be dead.

I assure you, if any of them outlive Vic, they will continue to attack him relentlessly without rest even after he is literally gone, because they have nothing else now.

It's gone further now that we have vtuber personas, as they (both male and female) often imply they're wearing less than a full shirt as well. Apparently people are just desperate to walk around in just their underwear in their homes, and any opportunity they get to come as close to that as possible while still earning money they'll take. Shamelessly.

You can log off, but you can never leave.

I don't think this will be the end of it. I mean it will have nothing to do with Vic, and people can give me rainbows for saying so, but I sense some kind of Twitter Jihad coming overall between the SJWs and "the anti-SJWs." There's too much bad blood in Twitter going back a decade with no resolution, and if Musk does the mass unbanning amnesty he promised, that could be the beginning of it.

Looking at some of these shmucks' accounts, they are beginning to talk about Twitter in the past tense even if for now they just do what AniFat does and say they are leaving but don't. But you're right, they know if they leave they will have no relavence anymore. So a lot of them are resistant to do so, but we'll see what happens over time as more of the shitlords are let out of their cages. Status quos, even ones as fucking awful as this one on Twatter, do not last forever.
 
This is probably giving Ren too much credit, but she mentions leopard face eating in the original tweet, and one of the women is talking, like recounting a story, when this event happens. I wasn't paying attention because it did not matter what she was saying, but I assume it was telling a story about a leopard attack.
The leopard thing is some phrase Redditor types use to basically re-invent 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes'. I've primarily seen them use it to celebrate antivaxxers dying. Not sure how it pertains to that clip but I assume the person is saying someone 'got what they deserved'.
 
Hardly worth archiving, but still. Renfamous' response to the woman is to mockingly say "'it's not a big deal!' - woman Vic flashed", ignoring the fact that the only one who can decide if a sexual advance is welcome is the target of that advance (assuming adulthood and competency), not Renfamous. Other choice comments are things like 'she's clearly lying' and 'a pick me imbecile' because any woman who goes against the accepted message does not deserve to be heard or believed. They are all very clearly seething that this wasn't the big scandal they wanted and the people involved were all okay with it.

Speaking of what they wanted, I was thinking about it today and the absolute lie they spun within like three tweets is absolutely insane. The rampant defamation of Vic is insane: Vic boomered it up and showed his underwear on accident on stream. At absolute worst, the most unkind possible interpretation that goes against all context clues, Vic purposefully showed off his undies to women live on stream in a moment of manic perversion. Yet they described it as "he purposefully exposed himself to women, who laughed at his small dick until he quit out of humiliation" - this is an absolute fantasy, It doesn't just misrepresent the situation, it just a made up story.
Here's more. They're in denial Screenshot_20221206_172841.jpg Screenshot_20221206_173032.jpg
 
These are the same people who said it was gross but consenual for deman to rape Duncan in his sleep.
And who think it's totally fine to let an anime convention shota predator loose over scarlet lettering loose, dubious, even scandalous and false sexual assault allegations of a famous entertainer and voice actor.

If you fucks are reading this, remember each day that Dylan Keilman goes free from punishment, that's another extension of what karma's coming back to you. Don't say I didn't fucking warn you.
 
Why was Renfamous watching this in the first place? And remind me again what Vic has done to her. Why is that Renfamous and Marzgurl are the biggest voices in the situation, not the actual victims like in other cases.
Because they feel that anything Vic does is a way for him to stay relevant, and a way for them to point and laugh at how far his star has fallen.
 
The leopard thing is some phrase Redditor types use to basically re-invent 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes'. I've primarily seen them use it to celebrate antivaxxers dying. Not sure how it pertains to that clip but I assume the person is saying someone 'got what they deserved'.
In retrospect I should have known it was a dumb cringe catchphrase. Renfamous is that type.
They are quite literally throwing a temper tantrum that the target of a sexual advance liked it. The supposed sexual advance in fact never happened, but these people are dementedly determined to insist it did, because when you go under the microscope every single thing you ever do becomes calculated and you can no longer ever again do something on accident. And yet, even if we were to grant that it was a sexual act, they are mad because the person in question welcomed it. That's how sad they are. If some creep ever stalked Vic at a con or hotel and caught a film of him being sensual or sexual with an established girlfriend of his, these are the type who would get angry because his girlfriend was enthusiastically consenting to sex with someone they wouldn't consent to sex with.

Or they'd get jealous he didn't ask them. Whichever.
I will say, for someone with such uncontrollable libido that he attacks cahnsluts and fat voice actresses, this recent gaffe featured a distinct lack of furious masturbation as he sat with a stream full of not-fat women.
There was a distinct lack of dick in a supposed unwelcome dick pic. Also, while this is clearly not the case with Vic, people have literally sent actual dick pics on accident, and one creep I seem to remember would send them and then pretend he did it on accident, which allowed him to get away with it for a while. Even with literal, actual dick pics, when it's believed to be an accident it generally gets shrugged off. Functional adults can recognize something was awkward and accidental, and not assume they live in a cartoon show where nothing is ever accidental and every slight is intentional and a direct indication of moral character.
Why was Renfamous watching this in the first place? And remind me again what Vic has done to her. Why is that Renfamous and Marzgurl are the biggest voices in the situation, not the actual victims like in other cases.
Renfamous and Marzgurl have nothing else to make their lives notable or worthwhile. Marchi and Monica are employed. That's why the damage was mostly done to Vic's character by those two, not by Marzgurl or Renfamous. There's probably some argument for saying someone like Ren at this point needs a restraining order to leave Vic alone and stop constantly interfering with his life and business dealings, but she's frankly just not important enough to have damaged him on her own. Thus, attaching to Vic like a parasite makes her more important. She's clearly not been able to break into any other more relevant controversy since kickvic, and so like a remora she's attached to Vic as if her life depends on it.
I actually believe this. However, what I believe is that casual and well-meaning fans saw the literal slander that Animat tweeted out about how Vic 'exposed himself on purpose to women on camera and ran away in humiliation when they laughed at his small dick' and reacted to that, not what really happened. This is exactly why defamation is bad. There now exists a subset of people, however small, who truly believe that Vic exposed himself to innocent and unwilling women without provocation. And why wouldn't they? People literally linked a video of what actually happened and then said 'this is what the video contains'. Even my heart initially sank - as I am always waiting to be proven wrong about Vic and be disappointed that somehow, against all odds, the rumors and slander were actually true - at the idea that he may have at the very least done something incredibly sus or perverted when I first saw the video + description. Even after 3 years of this, I still didn't expect the description of the video - while linking the actual video - to be pure fiction.
 
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