US "We are f***ed": Democrats despair over Biden debate performance

From CNN's Kasie Hunt
24 min ago

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Biden speaks during the CNN Presidential Debate on Thursday. John Nowak/CNN

Democrats are despairing over President Joe Biden’s debate performance Thursday night, a showing so halting some even privately raised questions about whether he should remain the party’s nominee.

Biden appeared onstage with a soft, halting voice and an open-mouthed, staring look. He struggled to finish thoughts at points, and ceded ground on issues like abortion where Democrats have an edge.

It took just minutes for Democrats to realize how bad it was becoming.

“Biden looks and sounds terrible. He’s incoherent,” one Democrat who spent time working in the Biden administration said.

“Horrific,” said another Democratic operative.

And one Democrat who’s worked on campaigns up and down the ballot said simply: “We are f***ed.”

The looming question as the debate came to a close was almost existential: Should someone else top the Democratic ticket?

“It’s hard to argue that Biden should be our nominee,” said an operative who’s worked on campaigns at all levels for over a decade.

This debate was historic for many reasons, but not least because it is taking place before each man is formally nominated at their respective conventions. The Democratic National Convention is set to convene August 19 in Chicago.

Democrats have spent much of the past year handwringing about Biden’s chances of beating Trump in an election many view as an existential one that will decide the very survival of American democracy. But Biden himself was determined to be the one to take on Trump, at one point even saying directly: “If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running.”

No serious Democratic challengers stepped up to run against Biden, and at this point in the campaign he’d have to decide to step aside if Democrats were to pick another nominee. If Biden did withdraw, the Democratic nomination would be decided on the floor.

Democrats were even talking about who it might be instead: “If I was Gavin (Newsom) or Gretchen (Whitmer), I’d be making calls tonight,” one said.

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'Shakespearean’: Biden's family tensions with staff boil over after debate fiasco, says report https://archive.ph/wip/trgAD

US President Biden's family is increasingly trying to take part in President Joe Biden’s campaign and White House matters, fueled by frustration with his staff after the recent debate debacle that has motivated them to bypass staff to support Biden, NBC reported quoting sources familiar to the matter as saying.


“The debate fiasco has opened up a lane for the family to surpass staff and start helping out their father and brother who they love dearly,” the report quoted the source as saying.

Tensions between the family and some of Biden’s closest aides have been growing, and his debate performance has intensified the issue, according to NBC. Some Biden aides view the family's actions as an attempt to address longstanding grievances, while the family believes the debate was mishandled by the staff, who failed to properly highlight Biden’s strengths.

This internal conflict has frustrated Biden’s staff, who believe the family’s emotional involvement is hindering their efforts to manage the crisis. A Biden campaign aides expressed that the situation is unproductive, while another close to the president suggested the family isn't grasping the political realities.
“It’s not helpful,” one Biden campaign aide was quoted as saying.
“It’s Shakespearean,” another close aid was quoted as saying.
In an ABC News interview on Friday, Biden took full responsibility for his debate performance, asserting it was his fault alone.
Hunter Biden’s recent attendance at White House meetings marks the beginning of expected deeper involvement from the family. Valerie Owens, Biden’s sister, also came to Washington this week for discussions about her brother’s campaign.
However, White House chief of staff Jeff Zients has dismissed the rumors of internal strife, affirming the president and first lady’s confidence in their team. “The president and first lady have full confidence in their team. There is absolutely no truth to these unfounded and insulting rumors.”
Family members feel that top aides have blamed the president for the debate's failure instead of accepting responsibility, which has particularly upset the Biden family. A source was quoted as explaining that the debate performance was the breaking point, with the staff's blame-shifting angering the family, who expected loyalty and accountability from the president’s aides.

“I believe the family has witnessed blunder after blunder by key staff personnel and the debate is likely the straw that broke the camel’s back.”
 
THis is great.

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EVERYTHING IS JUST FINE!!!!

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It's fucking amazing that they think that anyone believes this decrepit old skeleton is doing anything but shitting in a diaper and challenging houseplants to pushup contests.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET FUNNIER!
 
THis is great.

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EVERYTHING IS JUST FINE!!!!

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It's fucking amazing that they think that anyone believes this decrepit old skeleton is doing anything but shitting in a diaper and challenging houseplants to pushup contests.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GET FUNNIER!
they have his niece taking over social media outreach on tiktok, but I want to see how the whole family tree gets involved. will his cousin become his chief of security? will his aunt thrice removed become the White House spokesperson? will uncle larry take over the finances?
 
What everyone discussing this seems to not be talking about is that this panic didn't come down fast and hard because of "one bad day". This is the culmination of YEARS of people being told not to believe their lying eyes and ears the first time the lie can't be ignored or hand waved away. Even my leftist cultist father broke down as for the first time in years the truth hit him, for at least a little bit. He's huffing michael obama hopium pretty hard now though.

The damage control has been absolute popcorn worthy. They get biden to do a completely scripted radio interview and he ends up proclaiming himself a proud black woman. And then the radio hosts straight up throw him under the bus admitting the interview was scripted.

Then they hype up a non-live interview infront of a shitty green screen claiming it to be unedited despite the thing being full of jump cuts and just kind of ending, and biden comes off as a grouchy senile old man in denial desperately clinging to power. Big dollar donors are publically cutting the tap off and the bottom feeders are trying to build some name recognition by calling on him to step down. All of a sudden his veep, who has been practically unpersoned is showing up at rap concerts and getting her face out there. I'm expecting next week big moves by the bigger name hopefuls to start getting some spotlight, pritzker who is bankrolling the dnc convention and probably woo-woo warren. Bernie possibly but he's the only guy right now who makes biden look young and spry, and his grift is up.

We WILL see a repeat of the '68 convention with race riots, anti israeli protests, jewish counter protests complete with snipers and bombs, and the democrats in a full power vacuum battle. The RNC on the other hand is in relative lock-step. It seems that Trump has come out on top and is keeping most of the party in line.

The dems may be over as a party.
 
We WILL see a repeat of the '68 convention with race riots, anti israeli protests, jewish counter protests complete with snipers and bombs, and the democrats in a full power vacuum battle. The RNC on the other hand is in relative lock-step. It seems that Trump has come out on top and is keeping most of the party in line.

The dems may be over as a party.

Overblow.

Abortion is not a lock-key issue as the radical left or right wants everyone to believe. The vast majority of people do not have a problem with reasonable restrictions to the first trimester, while medication to prevent pregnancy is freely available.

Immigration has been blown out of the water given Texas Governor Abbott sending illegals to sanctuary cites to expose the liberal talking points on the matter.

Guns are always flash in the pan issue.

The thunderstorm that was DEI is clearing.

1968 had Vietnam and Civil Rights Movement to provide the black power unlike today.
 
1968 had Vietnam and Civil Rights Movement to provide the black power unlike today.
Say what you will about the gangster rap of the 90s, at least you could see the appeal of the aesthetic. Young dumbasses always love violent outlaws.

Now it's all about being a literal whore or powerbottoming for Satan. Bucks are broken.
 
Overblow.

Abortion is not a lock-key issue as the radical left or right wants everyone to believe. The vast majority of people do not have a problem with reasonable restrictions to the first trimester, while medication to prevent pregnancy is freely available.

Immigration has been blown out of the water given Texas Governor Abbott sending illegals to sanctuary cites to expose the liberal talking points on the matter.

Guns are always flash in the pan issue.

The thunderstorm that was DEI is clearing.

1968 had Vietnam and Civil Rights Movement to provide the black power unlike today.
I agree that the above is overblown, but at the same time don't underestimate the effects of a power vacuum. The fact that donors are holding back is a crisis the dems cannot afford to ignore, especially with their current campaign starting to take in water.
 
Guns are always flash in the pan issue.
In the wake of Heller, Bruen and Chevron...... a one, two, three punch combo? it is a DEAD issue for the foreseeable future.

The standard 90's attack points about scary rifles with high-capacity mags have been utterly defanged by there being no legal way to do anything about them any more.

The dems may be over as a party.

You should know better than to say that, as everyone said the Republican party was OVER in 2008.
 
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I think they will just kill him. ‘Look he’s dead you were all so MEAN to an old man he must have been suffering from (whatever they will say this) you MEANIES.’
Well yes, because we're living in reality and we knew he was a demented husk. We just didn't figure that even the drugs guy wouldn't be able to do something

Except drug tolerance is a thing, so the dosage they used wasn't enough and it gets riskier every time they up the dosage.
If someone has Parkinson’s then drugs like carbidopa/levodopa need very careful use. There are pumps being developed to give patients a constant slow drip of the stuff. Oral dosing leads to dips where patients suffer ‘off’ times.
Remember though that Parkinson’s is primarily classed as a movement disorder. The cognitive decline often comes much later rather than being the start of it. People on levodopa tend to have on and off times and overuse just leads to more off. If it’s purely Parkinson’s he’s had it for far too long to have been the president and he should have been stopped down a long while back
for the debates, they had to keep him on them for a sustained period of time so he could actually prep. Meaning once the debates came they had significantly dropped in effectiveness.
That’s interesting.
lot of talk about what wake-up drugs they were trying to use on Sleepy Joe, but I'm thinking there were no drugs at all. Just an ancient, decrepit man who has good days and bad days, nursing homes are full of them
I think he’s drugged, just from looking at his eyes in that debate. I suspect he has Parkinson’s from the way he stands and holds his hands and walks and from how his face looks. Parkinson’s patients can go up and down a lot more than other types of dementia. but I don’t think that’s all he has. The mental decline is huge, he may have a mixed type of dementia, Parkinson’s plus vascular or lewy body or something.
From the weird way his face is wasting, I’d also not be surprised if he has some form of cancer, but I know he’s had a lot of surgery so maybe just that.
Either way he is a very sick man
 
I think they will just kill him. ‘Look he’s dead you were all so MEAN to an old man he must have been suffering from (whatever they will say this) you MEANIES.’
"Before shooting himself twice in the back of the head, Joe Biden's last wish was to have Hilary Clinton installed as God-Queen for life. You're not going to invoke the Constitution to deny an old man his dying wish, are you?"
 
In the wake of Heller, Bruen and Chevron...... a one, two, three punch combo? it is a DEAD issue for the foreseeable future.

The standard 90's attack points about scary rifles with high-capacity mags have been utterly defanged by there being no legal way to do anything about them any more.



You should know better than to say that, as everyone said the Republican party was OVER in 2008.
The Republican Party would’ve been done after 2016 if Trump didn’t take it over. Do the Democrats have their own Donald Trump to overhaul the party?
 
The Republican Party would’ve been done after 2016 if Trump didn’t take it over. Do the Democrats have their own Donald Trump to overhaul the party?
Probably, we just don't know their name yet.

Just like how in 2012, nobody would've taken the idea of Donald Trump as serious, we probably don't know who they are and wouldn't believe them if they told us.
 
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