Was mulan woke

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Stop watching cartoons.

No.

 

[sandcaptain]

90s disney is pure mid (except lion king), but at least they keeped a good visual narrative.

 

[Nickel Silver]

Classic Mulan is too selfless and too empathetic to traditionalist men to be woke.

To be woke you have to advance a womens'/minority/LGBT agenda in the name of "equity," especially if you shit on the values if not the very existence of straight white men. Wokeness is driven by self-interest or white guilt under a veneer of social justice. It's leftist moral narcissism. Mulan doesn't care about advancing "womens' rights" or proving she's better than misogynistic men; she's driven by love and the desire to protect her father.

 

[McMitch]

90s disney is pure mid (except lion king), but at least they keeped a good visual narrative.

Hercules is literally the best animated movie Disney ever put out. The Emperor’s New Groove is a close second but that was like 2001.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

A lot of people don't get what woke means. It means to be aware of certain injustice that needs to be rectified. This mean that wither Mulan goes full "muh wahmen rights" or the movie was made because "muh representashun". As far as I know, this didn't happen.

Despite what modern feminists say, women were not always treated as second class citizens. Some of them could fight, specially in war time. There was some historian on YT talking about, I think, Got and saying it was unrealistic that the women were sent into hiding when they needed hands to protect the castle. If a woman could grab a knife, then she could stab an invader.

So, no. Mulan wasn't necessarily woke. The movie is based on an actual Chinese tale, I can't remember if a real one or not. They still wanted to send the message to girls that women are capable, which is a good message for young girls.

And it all happens within the story : Mulan does what she does because she knows her father could die. Brave, OTOH, is highly unrealistic because princesses back then knew marriages were not for love but for political alliances and security. Merida was basically saying "fuck my realm, I wanna be me". This ain't a thing in Mulan.

 

[Estate]

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Lick an electrical outlet, nigger faggot.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I like how progressives REE at the Mongolian soldiers being called "Huns" much like how they screech at Hunchback for "gypsy".

I hate how the troons have co-opted "Reflection" for themselves when the song isn't at all about gender identity in the slightest. Mulan struggles to be the "perfect daughter" and that's the extent of it. She's more worried about bringing dishonor to her family and the risk of uprooting her line should she not become the bride her culture expects of her. (Meanwhile it seems as if being unconventional runs in the family given "Best Granny Ever" Grandma Fa, and that her father deeply adores her, he has no shame over not having a son.)

Anyhoo here's a beautiful "Reflection" cover by Lia.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Hercules is literally the best animated movie Disney ever put out. The Emperor’s New Groove is a close second but that was like 2001.

The Sheboons being the Muse singers singing Motown sounds was probably the originator (mainstreamfication) of the We Wuz Kangz.

We wuz Greek Gods.

 

[Gimmick Account]

So, no. Mulan wasn't necessarily woke. The movie is based on an actual Chinese tale, I can't remember if a real one or not. They still wanted to send the message to girls that women are capable, which is a good message for young girls.

She's not thought to be real, but the original context is lost and the poem survives in a few later versions.
Originally she stands in so her dad won't get drafted, has her whole career, turns down a reward for distinguished service and goes home with her comrades. Then she does a hair flip and they go "whoah you were a WOMAN all ALONG?!" and she says something about how you can't tell rabbits apart when they're running.
I dunno if there's a message. You can't really tell with old poems and shit.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

She's not thought to be real, but the original context is lost and the poem survives in a few later versions.
Originally she stands in so her dad won't get drafted, has her whole career, turns down a reward for distinguished service and goes home with her comrades. Then she does a hair flip and they go "whoah you were a WOMAN all ALONG?!" and she says something about how you can't tell rabbits apart when they're running.
I dunno if there's a message. You can't really tell with old poems and shit.

I meant the message from the movie. Sure, the story might have been real and it got bigger with time, as happens with all stories. I do remember to read that there were actual female warriors during that time, though.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The Sheboons being the Muse singers singing Motown sounds was probably the originator (mainstreamfication) of the We Wuz Kangz.

We wuz Greek Gods.

No one does gospel music better than black people. When you're going over-the-top in animation, best to do the same with music.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

She's not thought to be real, but the original context is lost and the poem survives in a few later versions.
Originally she stands in so her dad won't get drafted, has her whole career, turns down a reward for distinguished service and goes home with her comrades. Then she does a hair flip and they go "whoah you were a WOMAN all ALONG?!" and she says something about how you can't tell rabbits apart when they're running.
I dunno if there's a message. You can't really tell with old poems and shit.

To be fair it's pretty hard to tell Chink Bugmen apart from Chink Women.