War in Afghanistan, version 2021 - Or how to lose half of your country in four months

[awoo]

yfw the taliban were the good guys the whole time

I remember reading about this as a modern form of pederasty. Interesting something so haram would be done at all.

 

[The Final Troondown]

honestly any western nation could wipe out the taliban fairly easily if they wanted to but they don't because war these days is about making money for vested interests
all it would take is bombing out their recent gains so they embed themselves into strongholds, installing a colonial government, destroying agricultural land around their remaining territory and stopping supplies or anyone getting in or out

then you just make a deal wherein the areas where they originate aren't permitted to produce their own food and receive a monthly stipend of food and clean water in exchange for obiedience
first transgression cut it off for two months, repeated transgressions you just wipe out the natives and replace them with your own colonists to extract the oil or whatever you need from the area

hell since fossil fuels ae on the way out just block trade routes and dust the arable land with polonium solution and wait for them and their civilian support base to die of radiation poisoning

 

[jorgoth]

honestly any western nation could wipe out the taliban fairly easily if they wanted to but they don't because war these days is about making money for vested interests
all it would take is bombing out their recent gains so they embed themselves into strongholds, installing a colonial government, destroying agricultural land around their remaining territory and stopping supplies or anyone getting in or out

then you just make a deal wherein the areas where they originate aren't permitted to produce their own food and receive a monthly stipend of food and clean water in exchange for obiedience
first transgression cut it off for two months, repeated transgressions you just wipe out the natives and replace them with your own colonists to extract the oil or whatever you need from the area

hell since fossil fuels ae on the way out just block trade routes and dust the arable land with polonium solution and wait for them and their civilian support base to die of radiation poisoning

Yup. Government corruption is basically the reason why Rome fell, too. The fish rots from the head.

 

[FriedFroge]

there's no business like War business

 

[Lemmingwise]

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[Fish Fudge]

You can't change Afghanistan. But Afghanistan can change you.

 

[jorgoth]

So the US leaves Afghanistan and already they're drawing up plans for a massive new oil and gas transportation system. How much you want to bet this is the real reason the US was there for so long?

 

[ReturnedHermit]

Al Qaeda is to warfare what AWS is to computers.
The US is making use of occupation as a form of modified siege warfare. You control the territory to starve your enemy of resources until they finally capitulate. An effective strategy against a bunch of subsistence farmers, but very ineffective when you are lying to your own forces about the enemy being mere subsistence farmers.
Al Qaeda won't ever reach a point where they run out of money, manpower, or fighting capability. It is too easy to radicalize uneducated farmers, especially when they already have the religious zealot perk and qaran firmware patch. Weaponry is fucking everywhere and an occupation carries with it a constant, ever-increasing risk of your enemy capturing equipment. The money is coming from anyone who doesn't like America which includes parts of America. So long as we have enemies they will secure some funding. So long as they run drugs, sell slaves, and control oil infrastructure they will always have a massively efficient cash flow operation capable of generating more money than they need to defend a country like Afghanistan. Their cost per soldier is so low while the force multiplier on improvised explosive attacks is so high.
If they don't want to fight for Afghanistan they can leave and setup in Syria, or Jordan, or wherever. Oh no! The US declared war on Afghanistan! Maybe we, the descendents of desert nomads used to long travel distances between cities just for simple survival, should leave Afghanistan?
They're just operating at a higher level than the American government can process. Governments in general are slaves to organizations like Al Qaeda and the Cartels. Consider the attack surface of a 1st world country compared to the stripped down efficiency of a criminal organization with military capabilities. They can always back up their promise to inflict more harm on you than you ever can on them. That creates leverage. "Terrorism" is a concept developed by the US to mitigate that leverage. Usually, that means a country toughens up. You get the people fit, militarized, vigilant, and prepared for the pain. The US didn't do that, instead they chose a high-tech solution. Eyes everywhere, DHS, yadda yadda. 20 years later and we are a trillion dollars down the hole, 30% more obese, testing worse in all subjects, and generally speaking not a very cohesive country at the moment. Al Qaeda has continually been tested,resulting in continual improvement while we have been living in fear of any test whatsoever.
Most people don't understand when I say this but I will say it anyways: war will become a gig economy like any other task and it will be impossible to combat efficiently while governments are running the show. In a couple decades tech monopolies will be tasked with fighting these cloud-like threats based on their similar operational configurations. They will most likely end up doing a corporate buyout, restructuring, and redeploying all these little gangs of highly effective people by having them work on any number of things. You have to imagine these groups have highly desirable capabilities to tech giants struggling with irl force projection and increasingly complicated defense needs.
At the end of the day what is more valuable as a weapon: a nuke buried under the ground that people forget exists, or a server farm that is constantly printing money or influencing millions of people? The US government is not designed to fight people who are good at capitalism because it was designed by people who were good at capitalism.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

It might be worth to bring back this thread from the dead, looks like the Talibans did something that pissed off China, Iran, Pakistan and Russia.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-iran-pakistan-and-russia-are-increasingly-displeased-afghan-taliban

https://archive.is/uDjXA

China, Iran, Pakistan, And Russia Are Increasingly Displeased With The Afghan Taliban
by Tyler Durden​

Thursday, Oct 03, 2024 - 03:30 AM
Authored by Andrew Korybko via Substack,
The Chinese, Iranian, Pakistani, and Russian Foreign Ministers gathered for their third quadrilateral meeting on Afghanistan on the sidelines of the UNGA last week. The joint statement that they produced was sharply critical of the Taliban on very sensitive issues, thus showing that they’re becoming increasingly displeased with them. They confirmed that international terrorist groups are still active in Afghanistan despite the Taliban’s claims and called on them to fulfill their obligation to fight them.

Those four’s joint statement explicitly said that the Taliban should “eliminate all terrorist groups equally and non-discriminatory and prevent the use of Afghan territory against its neighbors, the region, and beyond”, thus implying that it’s only selectively targeting those like ISIS-K which it considers a threat. The innuendo is that some of them like the TTP and BLA, which readers can learn more about here, are being sheltered by the Taliban and even exploited by them as proxies against Pakistan like Islamabad suspects.

It's for this reason why Pakistan’s Express Tribune, which is one of the country’s most reliable outlets, described the inclusion of that language as a ”major diplomatic victory”. The other criticisms of the Taliban were comparatively milder and include a call for it to finally assemble the ethno-politically inclusive government that it promised to form a few years back, create the conditions for facilitating the return of refugees from Iran and Pakistan, and reconsider its policy towards women.