Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

If he can do that, that would offer an oppertunity to lift attorney-client privilege, since that is one of the few situations that will revoke it. Not sure what he is trying to find truly by doing this. It's hard to read anything into his rabid antics.

What he is seeking to do is get information on what he claims to be Ty's misconduct, by requiring communications with Ty that would reveal that misconduct, but those are communications which unquestionably involve Ty's thought processes and trial preparations.

That's the core of work product. It isn't attorney/client because he isn't Slatosch's attorney.

He has to do more than jump up and down wheezing and gasping to assert what would require invoking crime/fraud exception to get to it, though. And if he does that, Slatosch is not obligated to attend a fishing expedition Lemoine openly admits is just trying to frame him for perjury.

If he expects Slatosch to spontaneously confess to perjury and that's his reason for deposing him, he's admitted he can't get it.

And he knows damn well the perjury accusation is an outright lie, a fraud on the court itself. He knows Ron Toye repeatedly contacted and intimidated Slatosch repeatedly threatening and demanding he break contract, that he explicitly told Toye he had a contract, and Toye insisted it be broken.

Even if Chupp is a complete incompetent, Lemoine knows that, he's read the documents, he doesn't question their authenticity, and he is deliberately falsely accusing someone of a crime.
 
No, lawyers don't have a license to commit crimes.

True, they do not, but in my understanding, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that a lawyer is immune from civil liability - particularly defamation, for any action taken related to advocating for their clients in the course of litigation. So, while the judge may sanction a lawyer for misconduct, Slatosch, for example, couldn't recover damages via a defamation suit. Maybe, I am misreading something.
 
True, they do not, but in my understanding, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that a lawyer is immune from civil liability - particularly defamation, for any action taken related to advocating for their clients in the course of litigation. So, while the judge may sanction a lawyer for misconduct, Slatosch, for example, couldn't recover damages via a defamation suit. Maybe, I am misreading something.
Defamation is not just saying something bad about someone, you need to say something that is injurious, that is a lie and that causes damages.

Due to the last one most things people say about someone else wouldn't reach the level of Defamation, for example I can hypothetically make the claim that Ron Toye is a pedophile rapist and his son is one of his many victims. Unless I were to cause damage by saying that, it would not be defamation, at least not Defamation I could get sued for.

Lemon can say bad things about Vic or anyone, even if they are false, unless they were to cause damage to the person he is talking about and there was proof of such damage. What he cannot do, is commit a criminal act, or break the lawyers code of conduct, which is a set of rules and standards he has to follow if he doesn't he could get reprimanded or lose his license in the most extreme cases.
 
True, they do not, but in my understanding, and please correct me if I am wrong, is that a lawyer is immune from civil liability - particularly defamation, for any action taken related to advocating for their clients in the course of litigation. So, while the judge may sanction a lawyer for misconduct, Slatosch, for example, couldn't recover damages via a defamation suit. Maybe, I am misreading something.

That only applies to defamation, and it applies to parties and non-parties alike. Lawyers can be sued if they commit civil torts in any context, though. Litigation privilege is against defamation, not against other torts like abusive of process, malicious prosecution, extortion, barratry, fraud, spoliation, or any of the other torts that can be committed in the course of litigation.

Michael Avenatti is currently being prosecuted for extortion, for example.
 
That only applies to defamation, and it applies to parties and non-parties alike. Lawyers can be sued if they commit civil torts in any context, though. Litigation privilege is against defamation, not against other torts like abusive of process, malicious prosecution, extortion, barratry, fraud, spoliation, or any of the other torts that can be committed in the course of litigation.

Michael Avenatti is currently being prosecuted for extortion, for example.
Oh, I thought we were only talking about the defamation in this context. That's my bad. I didn't know that we were talking about other crimes Lemon Lung may or may not have committed.
 
There has not been a submission for an appeal yet. Merely a Notice of Appeal, within the alotted time-window given by the law. So it is very unusual that the law would consider it premature, when all the notice does is secure their right to appeal later on when the time is better. Most likely after sanctions hearing.
If he sought to appeal the final ruling I'd agree, but the specific wording of the Notice of Appeal is that they're looking to appeal the ruling signed on October 4th and "(and all orders granting fees, costs or sanctions thereafter)". Because it's worded to appeal the interim/non-final ruling, Ty can't argue that he's intending to appeal just the final ruling.

It could be, certainly. It is an interesting fishing expedition. The way he is going about it is quite something though. A barrage of letters, notices, and intents. It feels more like he is attempting to intimidate the man rather than anything else. There is more than just attorney-client privilege, there is also something called work-product privilege, it will extend to Ty's work. Lemoine did put in something showing desire to depose him as well, and wanting documents concerning his client. This is covered by attorney-client, and work-product privilege.

Perhaps not all, but certainly a good deal of what he requested in that document.
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I wouldn't characterize this as a barrage, it's just two notices and seems rather routine to me. Litigation generates lots of paperwork, and it's not like he's filing a hundred different motions.

Again though, there's no attorney-client privilege there. There might be a work-product argument he can make on some documents insofar as they capture his thought processes, but work-product is a qualified immunity and can be defeated upon a showing of sufficient need. I don't know how Texas courts evaluates that.

It could be that some of that information will get wrangled over, even so, I do hope they make it difficult for him.
He has been attempting a few different angles to get his hands on privileged information for a while now. I do believe the reason he is going for these subjects is to get his hand on anything he can claim as part of a fraud. It is what he has been attempting to do with the GFM previously and failed miserably. I think he is trying to find something he can construe in messages there somewhere.

If he can do that, that would offer an oppertunity to lift attorney-client privilege, since that is one of the few situations that will revoke it. Not sure what he is trying to find truly by doing this. It's hard to read anything into his rabid antics.
I dunno dude, this doesn't feel rabid or frantic to me. Lawyers generate lots of documents. It's the nature of the game. It doesn't read to me nearly as badly as Mike Flynn's arguments in his criminal case have been reading since he hired Powell.
 
If he sought to appeal the final ruling I'd agree, but the specific wording of the Notice of Appeal is that they're looking to appeal the ruling signed on October 4th and "(and all orders granting fees, costs or sanctions thereafter)". Because it's worded to appeal the interim/non-final ruling, Ty can't argue that he's intending to appeal just the final ruling.

Arguably that line by itself admits that the October 4 order is not a "final ruling." And in fact exactly that has been argued. I doubt it ultimately matters, though.
 
Oh Dunford.

You could have saved yourself but here you are sitting on Lemoine's lap while he's on his throne of dumbassery.

Do you enjoy the pony ride that much? Does his mosquito prick feel good? Take his micropenis out of your ass and think rationally for a second.
The reason dusford tries so hard is because he had a good thing going - he was fresh out of law school, in Hawaii, with a family.

then his wife gets stationed in the middle of the flyover states. Mike suddenly has no legal business, and is a full time house husband as his army medic wife brings home the bacon. You could say he has issues with how things turned out, so he tries hard online.
 
The reason dusford tries so hard is because he had a good thing going - he was fresh out of law school, in Hawaii, with a family.

then his wife gets stationed in the middle of the flyover states. Mike suddenly has no legal business, and is a full time house husband as his army medic wife brings home the bacon. You could say he has issues with how things turned out, so he tries hard online.
Nah, Nicole is stationed at Ft. Ruckers Alabama, raising the 2 test tube mutants, and gab tooth is in the UK pretending to be a lawyer.
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"Chupp levels of exceptional" means acting like your run of the mill judge,
A "run of the mill judge" doesn't have multiple, repeated overturns of the same case, multiple writs ordering him to rule a particular way, and nasty letters from the appeals court for his constant misbehaviour.
 
A "run of the mill judge" doesn't have multiple, repeated overturns of the same case, multiple writs ordering him to rule a particular way, and nasty letters from the appeals court for his constant misbehaviour.
Yaaaah, I feel anyone defending Chupp or claiming he is ordinary needs a reality check. While I am sure any judge has fucked up on occasion, Chupp's history with the appeals court does not paint any form of normal picture and I honestly wish the KickVic side didn't defend him as much.

@10SorrowfulObject You are aware that Chupp fucking it up means that, if we take for granted that Vic's case is bad, that he leaves open for Vic to win through appeals? Chupp being terrible doesn't just hurt the plaintiffs, it hurts the Defendants too.
 
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And he knows damn well the perjury accusation is an outright lie, a fraud on the court itself. He knows Ron Toye repeatedly contacted and intimidated Slatosch repeatedly threatening and demanding he break contract, that he explicitly told Toye he had a contract, and Toye insisted it be broken.
Fuhrer Citronella is hoping that the MoRon texts were fabricated by Slatosch after Ty ordered him to do so under a threat of lawsuit, hence why he needs to see Ty's communications to prove this theory. He's basically assuming Slatosch is that much of an idiot to go along with a blatantly illegal demand (he doesn't think much of Ty so I could see him believing this, or at least convincing MoRon of it) instead of contacting a lawyer, to which even a LanDUI/Lawtwitter-tier mouthbreather would say "yeah that's perjury, tell him to fuck off."

If his demands and arguments regarding Slatosch were already very shaky, this just tips his hand like nothing else. I burst out laughing when I heard Nick reading the document accusing Slatosch and Ty of perjury. Nobody wants to be accused of a crime (that got us into this case!). Even if Slatosch is hardcore KV and did all this at the legal gunpoint, he'd have to be pretty pissed to be accused of perjury by the lawyer who's defending his side, if the colossal waste of time this deposition is didn't already piss him off. The KickVic crowd might want to see Vic get buried in legal fees, but to have to put up your personal time and suffer the agony of listening to a brain-damaged man's dying lung wheeze out idiocy for hours would put even the hardcore KV over the line. As typical of armchair activists, they talk a big game, but even a retahd like Shane wouldn't want to get deposed by Jayshawn Phlemwaaaah for hours, even if it meant smacking down Vic.
 
Fuhrer Citronella is hoping that the MoRon texts were fabricated by Slatosch after Ty ordered him to do so under a threat of lawsuit, hence why he needs to see Ty's communications to prove this theory.
That seems really dumb and i can't see lemonfuhrer trying it as he has access to the texts and his client helped authenticate them by sending his side to Shane of all people. Racking up billable hours, sanctions and a useless REEE-ing point that Vic hasn't sued others that helped break his KC contract (cough Sabbat cough) is my guess.

As to somebody else's point of Slatosh flipping to the defense, he should know that the Funimation gang of t.ards is going to try and fuckup any of his conventions in the future and destroy him.
 
And he knows damn well the perjury accusation is an outright lie, a fraud on the court itself. He knows Ron Toye repeatedly contacted and intimidated Slatosch repeatedly threatening and demanding he break contract, that he explicitly told Toye he had a contract, and Toye insisted it be broken.

We have the texts. The texts that Ron Toye himself said were authentic, and that he had contacted Chris to drop Vic. There's no perjury at that point, and Lemoine knows it.
 
We have the texts. The texts that Ron Toye himself said were authentic, and that he had contacted Chris to drop Vic. There's no perjury at that point, and Lemoine knows it.
We're at the point where Jayshawn or Ron himself can say "nuh-uh, I never said that!" and it be seriously presented in a court document. Don't be surprised if it comes up.
 
If he sought to appeal the final ruling I'd agree, but the specific wording of the Notice of Appeal is that they're looking to appeal the ruling signed on October 4th and "(and all orders granting fees, costs or sanctions thereafter)". Because it's worded to appeal the interim/non-final ruling, Ty can't argue that he's intending to appeal just the final ruling.

The fees and costs that can be granted on a case that may get overturned on appeal. I would consider it logical that when you appeal, you also automatically appeal these. Since this is tied to the damages of the case you are appealing. Therefore, since the two things are tied together, they also automatically is a part of, or is appealed when they decide to do so.
I wouldn't characterize this as a barrage, it's just two notices and seems rather routine to me. Litigation generates lots of paperwork, and it's not like he's filing a hundred different motions.

Again though, there's no attorney-client privilege there. There might be a work-product argument he can make on some documents insofar as they capture his thought processes, but work-product is a qualified immunity and can be defeated upon a showing of sufficient need. I don't know how Texas courts evaluates that.

From a law point of view this is not a barrage perhaps. However for someone who is not used to the law, and a normal ordinary person like Slatosch, 4 papers in 3 days is a lot when you know they concern you. There has been 7 ,alltogether, 8 if you count BHBH's motion to quash, in the past 3 days conerning him or people he knows or been in touch with. That can come off as excessive and a bit much. Add in the emails, and phone calls he been throwing at him since the 22-23rd of Oct. through to the 28th.

We have seen Lemwah desperately clawing for Ty's privileged information for a while now. Either in form of attorney client privileged information, but moreso his work-product items. I do believe he is trying to get to that through a seemingly NONPARTY source, and use that as a way to weasel his way into that info, even if the pertinent information that he want would fall under either of these two categories.

I dunno dude, this doesn't feel rabid or frantic to me. Lawyers generate lots of documents. It's the nature of the game. It doesn't read to me nearly as badly as Mike Flynn's arguments in his criminal case have been reading since he hired Powell.

I haven't followed that case. On occasion I have looked into other cases and they appear to have documents for just about everything and anything. It is more about the content and intensity. He is accusing someone of Perjury before even having spoken to him. He's trying to Subpoena Ty Beard for, reasons. He's acting more like a madman clawing cause he's desperate for something, rather than a normal being. Then again, I suppose we can ask us the question: are lawyers/attorneys normal people?

After all, Ron has the same text and phone-records as Slatosch will have. And e-mail records if he decided to follow the 'do not delete evidence' thing they were put under. The stay of Discovery was entirely their own fault, and when they decide to go full out like this, it just looks bad.

The fact that Ron did a lot of 'I do not recall' and shaky maybe eehhs under deposition is more telling of him as a reliable witness rather than slatosch. So perhaps his only chance at making Ron look like reliable source after 4 hours of 'I do not recall' and SHEEPDOG, and lying under oath (never been in trouble with the law, lolyouhavesheepdog), perjury accusations and a hasty time-limit to force/most likely end in him not showing, could also be a way to throw doubt over Slatosch himself as witness. It is a kinda win win if he managed to get it through.
 
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We're at the point where Jayshawn or Ron himself can say "nuh-uh, I never said that!" and it be seriously presented in a court document. Don't be surprised if it comes up.
Imagine committing perjury to pin a perjury rap on someone.

I mean... yeah. I wouldn't be surprised, at this point.
 
I wouldn't characterize this as a barrage, it's just two notices and seems rather routine to me. Litigation generates lots of paperwork, and it's not like he's filing a hundred different motions.

Again though, there's no attorney-client privilege there. There might be a work-product argument he can make on some documents insofar as they capture his thought processes, but work-product is a qualified immunity and can be defeated upon a showing of sufficient need. I don't know how Texas courts evaluates that.

I dunno dude, this doesn't feel rabid or frantic to me. Lawyers generate lots of documents. It's the nature of the game. It doesn't read to me nearly as badly as Mike Flynn's arguments in his criminal case have been reading since he hired Powell.

While litigation does generate lots of paperwork, the nature of these requests are what is off.

1. Lemoine seems to have written the request to play to KickVic. "We believe the plantiff threatened to reveal Slatosch's private information." What did Lemoine do with when he requested Slatosch's deposition? Revealed his private information.

2. Slatosch probably gave up the texts in return for not getting sued for breach of contract. So back tracking brings liability for that back on the table.

3. KickVic has a habit of making mountains out of mole hills. How many ethics complaints have been filed against Ty and Nick because of this case? How many essentially boiled down to "They are doing their jobs?"

4. When has KickVic ever withheld evidence? If Shane had anything he would have posted it or it would have been leaked to Doucette. The texts would have been blasted all over by now.
 
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