Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

Been away from this since Nick and Ty lost the case. Is this getting bumped up to the Texas supreme court? Look I love Vic but the man should just cut his losses on this case and sue Ty for his fuck ups. When the appeals come back well if your lawyer stopped huffing his farts on a late night show and actually got shit notarized and turned in on time maybe you wouldn't be here but you are and you lose good day sir.
 
Is this getting bumped up to the Texas supreme court?
What you missed:
Vic appealed to the Supreme Court of Texas on November 14th
Ron Toye, Monica Rial, Jamie Marchi, Funimation all filed response waivers saying they don't intend to respond unless the court forces them to respond
The case was forwarded to the Judges and Vic's request is currently under review by the Justices
Edit: Court closed until Monday. Nothing Vic related came out today. Sad face

but the man should just cut his losses on this case and sue Ty for his fuck ups. When the appeals come back well if your lawyer stopped huffing his farts on a late night show and actually got shit notarized and turned in on time maybe you wouldn't be here but you are and you lose good day sir.
There are bigger problems at play than just Vic (such as the courts trying to rewrite all laws and caselaw regarding contracts and public figures), and even if there wasn't, he shouldn't just give up and let his abusers win. All issues aside, that sends the wrong message. He should fight for justice. I don't know why you lot keep complaining, not like you're losing anything.

Re: Ty comment, Vic'd be unlikely to win that suit

and turned in on time
He did. Ty addressed that in his appeal to both the appellate and the Texas Supreme Court
 
Re: Ty comment, Vic'd be unlikely to win that suit
Only if Ty contested.
If Ty is as much a man of honour as has been claimed, if he loses at the texas supreme court, he should find some way to make Vic whole again. Even if it means selling his beloved general.
I have a feeling that if this goes how we think it goes (dies without getting cert), Ty would do something for Vic, somehow.

Despite all the Tylophone notary fuckups, it's pretty obvious that Ty likes Vic, and Vic likes Ty. Hell, Vic went to Ty's daughter's wedding. I assume the average Joe Millionaire clients Ty normally deals with don't do that.
 
Nick Rekieta shares his opinion on Vic's latest appeal:

Nick talks about Vic's case in general, wishes the best to Vic and hopes he has tremendous success (in general) and makes a trillion dollars, and gets even more fans:


From this stream:
 
He may have a low chance of it, but at this point he's so committed he kind of had to try. I do not know if it's even possible to try to appeal up to the SCOTUS if the SCOTX refuses to look at it, but I wouldn't blame him if he tried. He was wronged massively by the defendants, he was wronged even more by Chupp, and he was wronged overwhelmingly by the appeals court. He may have almost no chance of success, but it is completely understandable that you might exhaust every single ounce of opportunity to find justice in such a situation.

Given the fact that the appeals court obviously wrote off Vic's entire case as 'frivolous cartoon man slap fight' I'd say it'd be a small miracle for it to be successful, but it almost literally cannot get worse for him when the appeals court decided to approve the absolutely insane fees appeal on top of denying Vic. He may as well try, and even if it ends in failure no one can say he didn't do his best.
 
I do not know if it's even possible to try to appeal up to the SCOTUS if the SCOTX refuses to look at it
Bush v. Gore, anyone?

Anyway, here's what justice.gov and uscourts.gov say:
After the circuit court or state supreme court has ruled on a case, either party may choose to appeal to the Supreme Court.
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A litigant who loses in a federal court of appeals, or in the highest court of a state, may file a petition for a "writ of certiorari," which is a document asking the Supreme Court to review the case.
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Though, of course, not all cases are subject to this (though I believe Vic's fits), and SCOTUS is not forced to consider the request.
 
He may have a low chance of it, but at this point he's so committed he kind of had to try. I do not know if it's even possible to try to appeal up to the SCOTUS if the SCOTX refuses to look at it, but I wouldn't blame him if he tried.
He can most definitely appeal to SCOTUS but that would be the same deal. They are not even required to give him the time of day. Off hand though, the most clear arguments would be to challenge the finding of Vic as a public figure (thus enticing the court to reverse NYT v. Sullivan) and maybe a due process claim based on the evidentiary standards of the TCPA that essentially forced Vic to prove with evidence after the TCPA foreclosed the collection of evidence. That sort of thing always rubbed me as a potential 14th amendment violation.

It also needs to be noted Ty would have to apply to join the Supreme Court Bar, or else find another Attorney who is on the Bar to ride shotgun with him. The latter would be the far superior choice. But also not cheap, especially for a hail mary pass. All speculative though, until we see how things go at SCOTX.
 
(thus enticing the court to reverse NYT v. Sullivan)
Bad idea. It would be far easier to convince the court that the Public Figure standard was misapplied (true) than to convince them to get rid of it entirely. They had better cases for that, and refused to do so, even at the urging of sympathetic justices.

Edit: First order out for today. Vic's name isn't mentioned, but the order page will be updated if any more come out today (still early in the day)

 
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Re: Ty comment, Vic'd be unlikely to win that suit
The intermediate appellate opinion all but outright accuses him of malpractice. I think a jury would probably look at it that way as well, although I seriously doubt Vic even wants to go there.

One thing I'll give the other side credit for in this case is they didn't churn out some cert. opposition just to rack up more billables.
 
He did. Ty addressed that in his appeal to both the appellate and the Texas Supreme Court
No Ty in fact did not turn things in on time. In fact looking through the appeals decision right now he gets shredded for this very fact by the appeal judges. Dude fucking sucked at this all the way through.

The 1st submission was improper and got called out by the strip mall lawyer who apparently was the only lawyer on this case. How the fuck do you not get your smoking gun in due to a notarization issue? Absolutely embarrassing of a fuck up and then try to squeeze it back in but late. Fuck that fat fuck his fuck ups is why Vic lost not because of Chupp and this hail mary to the Texas Supreme Court isn't going anywhere and is just another dollar squeezed from Vic. I hope Ty gets hit with a malpractice lawsuit from Vic. Ty had no business being on this case period.


Hell go back and reread the appeals court decision. Ty got shredded by all three judges for all of his bullshit and fuck ups on this case. So anyone holding out hope for Ty to pull off a hail mary at this point are morons.
 
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No Ty in fact did not turn things in on time. In fact looking through the appeals decision right now he gets shredded for this very fact by the appeal judges. Dude fucking sucked at this all the way through.
He did submit it on time, tho. It wouldn't even be an issue if the appellate court didn't try to rewrite all the contract law just to misread an agreement so simple that even a preschooler could understand it (that, of course, explains why the appellate court was unable)
The 1st submission was improper and got called out by the strip mall lawyer who apparently was the only lawyer on this case.
What the fuck are you on? There are 14 lawyers on this case.
then try to squeeze it back in but late.
False.
Fuck that fat fuck his fuck ups is why Vic lost not because of Chupp
Chupp messed up. He was trying to apply far harsher standards on TCPA than was applicable. I'm not saying that Ty didn't make any mistakes, he did, but pretending Chupp was good at what he did is insane.
I hope Ty gets hit with a malpractice lawsuit from Vic.
I made my thoughts on that quite clear the last time you came back here to complain about not knowing anything about the case.
Ty got shredded by all three judges for all of his bullshit and fuck ups on this case.
Appellate court was quite simply wrong.
So anyone holding out hope for Ty to pull off a hail mary at this point are morons.
Shocking discovery! An last resort appeal has low success rate! What new wisdom will you lay upon us next? Sky is blue?
 
He did submit it on time, tho. It wouldn't even be an issue if the appellate court didn't try to rewrite all the contract law just to misread an agreement so simple that even a preschooler could understand it (that, of course, explains why the appellate court was unable)

What the fuck are you on? There are 14 lawyers on this case.

False.

Chupp messed up. He was trying to apply far harsher standards on TCPA than was applicable. I'm not saying that Ty didn't make any mistakes, he did, but pretending Chupp was good at what he did is insane.

I made my thoughts on that quite clear the last time you came back here to complain about not knowing anything about the case.

Appellate court was quite simply wrong.

Shocking discovery! An last resort appeal has low success rate! What new wisdom will you lay upon us next? Sky is blue?
1. Not notarized which is a big fucking oops on Ty's part. He then fucked off and didn't submit the redone one on time and tried to sneak it back in as a unsworn declaration. This fuck up cost Vic the case end of fucking story. That's not a Chupp issue but a inept lawyer issue.

2. The strip mall lawyer out of all 14 lawyers on the case was the only one to do their job and not fuck over their clients in some capacity.

3. Nope, the appeals court ripped Ty apart on the 2AP fuckery. Rightfully so as the 2AP contained everything the case needed to survive the TCPA but Ty fucked it up completely and sank this case. Even with Chupp's bullshit if the 2AP made it in this case would have lived to discovery at least and who knows what kind of fuckery would have been found out.

4. I didn't say Chupp didn't fuck up the problem I am rightfully laying the blame where it belongs and that is on Ty. The dumbass didn't even preserve an objection to Chupp telling him to stfy and stop objecting. Did you actually read the appeal brief? It was straight up a Ty Beard comedy central roast.

5. Others stated it better in this thread but Vic has a strong malpractice suit against Ty for his fuck ups.

6. No they weren't you may not like the facts but Ty fucked up that badly. Thinking the appeals court is wrong in light of Ty's fuck ups kinda makes you delusional bro. Highly suggest you reread their judgement on the appeal. There's no defense for Ty dude was out of element every step of the way and unfortunately Vic is going to have to pay.
 
1. Not notarized which is a big fucking oops on Ty's part. He then fucked off and didn't submit the redone one on time and tried to sneak it back in as a unsworn declaration. This fuck up cost Vic the case end of fucking story. That's not a Chupp issue but a inept lawyer issue.

2. The strip mall lawyer out of all 14 lawyers on the case was the only one to do their job and not fuck over their clients in some capacity.

3. Nope, the appeals court ripped Ty apart on the 2AP fuckery. Rightfully so as the 2AP contained everything the case needed to survive the TCPA but Ty fucked it up completely and sank this case. Even with Chupp's bullshit if the 2AP made it in this case would have lived to discovery at least and who knows what kind of fuckery would have been found out.

4. I didn't say Chupp didn't fuck up the problem I am rightfully laying the blame where it belongs and that is on Ty. The dumbass didn't even preserve an objection to Chupp telling him to stfy and stop objecting. Did you actually read the appeal brief? It was straight up a Ty Beard comedy central roast.

5. Others stated it better in this thread but Vic has a strong malpractice suit against Ty for his fuck ups.

6. No they weren't you may not like the facts but Ty fucked up that badly. Thinking the appeals court is wrong in light of Ty's fuck ups kinda makes you delusional bro. Highly suggest you reread their judgement on the appeal. There's no defense for Ty dude was out of element every step of the way and unfortunately Vic is going to have to pay.
Tldr: "Ty is super wrong on everything and anyone who disagrees is delusional".

Cool story, bro.
 
Tldr: "Ty is super wrong on everything and anyone who disagrees is delusional".

Cool story, bro.
I mean the man himself came onto the appeal stream and admitted he fucked it all up and Vic's chances for reconsideration and SC appeal were next to nothing on chances of winning. Suggest you go back and reread the appeals brief whatever fuck ups Chupp made pale in comparison to Ty's. Not getting the 2AP in was the nail in Vic's coffin.

go back to page 1039 or 1040 for the appeal brief and while your there read the comments there as I'm not wrong Ty truly fucked Vic and needs to be slapped with a malpractice suit. When appeal judges are roasting you in their decision you done fucked up.
 
He can most definitely appeal to SCOTUS but that would be the same deal. They are not even required to give him the time of day. Off hand though, the most clear arguments would be to challenge the finding of Vic as a public figure (thus enticing the court to reverse NYT v. Sullivan) and maybe a due process claim based on the evidentiary standards of the TCPA that essentially forced Vic to prove with evidence after the TCPA foreclosed the collection of evidence. That sort of thing always rubbed me as a potential 14th amendment violation.

It also needs to be noted Ty would have to apply to join the Supreme Court Bar, or else find another Attorney who is on the Bar to ride shotgun with him. The latter would be the far superior choice. But also not cheap, especially for a hail mary pass. All speculative though, until we see how things go at SCOTX.
I hope the best for Vic and I really hope that the SCOTX decide to take the appeal and rule in his favor. If they don't, I do think - high cost or no - he should go for the SCOTUS. Does he have a high chance of success? No. But as I said before, there's not much worse of a position for him to be in. Vic isn't one to do something out of spite, even though he should in this case, but the law has been wholly and repeatedly misapplied in his case. No matter how much Ty failed Vic, the judges in these cases have failed him way more. Chupp ruled something that wasn't even suggested by either party, and the court of appeals apparently spent all that time looking for any excuse they could to throw out the case rather than rule on it properly. Did they even bother to comment on "Ron Toye is an independent contractor of Funimation" between throwing out all of the overwhelming evidence because it was slightly over deadline? I don't remember reading that they did. Even if it's a hail mary he kind of has to at this point.

Plus, it is amusing to think that the case could be caught up in appeals long enough for a mosquito to take the other lung. At the very least.
 
Did they even bother to comment on "Ron Toye is an independent contractor of Funimation"
No
because it was slightly over deadline?
It really wasn't. Rule 11 agreement said nothing about Amended petitions, and in Texas, Rule 11 agreements are to be considered contracts, and should not be given greater effect than the parties intended. Similarly, all terms are read in its legal meanings. See, for example, Pathfinder Oil & Gas, Inc. v. Great W. Drilling, Ltd., 574 S.W.3d 882 (Tex. 2019), Shamrock Psychiatric Clinic, P.A. v. Tex. Dep't of Health & Human Servs., 540 S.W.3d 553 (Tex. 2018 ), both of which are Supreme Court of Texas cases. Nor was it in violation of Tex. R. Civ. P. 63 which states "Parties may amend their pleadings, respond to pleadings on file of other parties, file suggestions of death and make representative parties, and file such other pleas as they may desire by filing such pleas with the clerk at such time as not to operate as a surprise to the opposite party; provided, that any pleadings, responses or pleas offered for filing within seven days of the date of trial or thereafter, or after such time as may be ordered by the judge under Rule 166, shall be filed only after leave of the judge is obtained, which leave shall be granted by the judge unless there is a showing that such filing will operate as a surprise to the opposite party." because TCPA hearing's are not considered trials on the merits and is not designed to replace one (see, for example, Davis v. Gulf Coast Auth., No. 11-19-00309-CV (Tex. App. Sep. 11, 2020) ). Rule 63 talks about trials on the merits, see, for example, Suite 900, LLC v. Vega, No. 02-19-00271-CV (Tex. App. May. 21, 2020), Grand Prairie Hospital Authority v. Tarrant Appraisal District, 707 S.W.2d 281 (Tex. App. 1986) (case overruled "insofar as it requires that property be devoted exclusively to the use and benefit of the public to be tax exempt under tax code section 11.11(a)." by Tarrant Appraisal Dist. v. Tarrant Reg'l Water Dist., 547 S.W.3d 917 (Tex. App. 2018 ) ) )
 
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