Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[AnOminous]

The problem is that they didn't have someone go through with truly fresh eyes. That's the way to pick up on these things. Have a style checklist. Have a formatting nerd (like me) who lives for correcting this shit. Let them be the last set of eyes. It really really helps.

And most importantly : DON'T DO IT ON A COMPUTER. Print it out old school style and take a damn blue pen to it. Then hand it back with all the marks to the original writers for their thumbs up. Then go through and change the computer file.

Works like a charm every damn time.

I know old boomers who still do everything with printouts and pen and have one person in charge of merging any changes into the document. They'd never hand in shit like this and would be mortified if they did. I think that's a little archaic for my tastes (and with competent version control you can do the same things), but it certainly results in quality work.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

They got two extenstions

I'd be interested to know if they asked for a third extension. If one of the defendants was opposed to it, that might explain why they were suddenly pressed for time.

 

[AnOminous]

I'd be interested to know if they asked for a third extension. If one of the defendants was opposed to it, that might explain why they were suddenly pressed for time.

There's no way they wouldn't have gloated about Ty getting BTFO on an extension request. Both were unopposed.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I think we're missing a thing here. Everyone involved in this has been slapdash and sloppy, from the lawyers all the way to the clerks of the court, and the judge himself. Even the strip mall lawyer had odd little typos and things in his filings, though he was obviously more conscientious.

I can only conclusion I can reach is that the Texas court system is populated entirely by semi-literate cowboys.

 

[AnOminous]

I think we're missing a thing here. Everyone involved in this has been slapdash and sloppy, from the lawyers all the way to the clerks of the court, and the judge himself. Even the strip mall lawyer had odd little typos and things in his filings, though he was obviously more conscientious.

Speaking of which, the case on research.txcourts.gov and on the Second District itself have not been updated since late April and are missing the extension motion as well as the current briefs. So good job on that Texas. Yeeee-haw.

 

[774]

There's no way they wouldn't have gloated about Ty getting BTFO on an extension request.

Especially considering KV have gloated even about unopposed motions for extension. They'd be all over one that was opposed in a heartbeat!

 

[Super Smelly Vagina]

I just hope Ron sues Nick so we can have another LOLsuit to laugh at.

If that happened, could Nick still make videos about it? Or would he just have to be careful?

 

[Sheryl Nome]

If that happened, could Nick still make videos about it? Or would he just have to be careful?

He probably would make videos about it because whatever potential suit Ron could bring would be a fucking joke

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

He probably would make videos about it because whatever potential suit Ron could bring would be a fucking joke

The only bigger joke would be Emmett Plant's relevancy in the greater scheme of things

 

[teriyakiburns]

The only bigger joke would be Emmett Plant's relevancy in the greater scheme of things

Who?

 

[TheClappening]

Who?

I heard he's a perjurer.

 

[NadeND-001]

I heard he's a perjurer.

And likes to call Vic locks of love.

 

[Fougaro]

I've recently been listening to Uncivil Law lately who, from what I can tell, tries to be as down to earth and impartial as possible taking a look at the various court docs regarding this case. In earlier videos he estimates MoRon's chance at winning to be at ~75%, Funimation's at ~85% and Vic's at around 30-40%. Especially in earlier videos he did get some minor facts wrong, but he said that the amount of background research he did on the case is probably more than the court of appeals will likely do.

UL argued in earlier videos that while Vic is a limited purpose public figure thanks to his "brand recognition" (my words not his) since he's de facto one of the most - if not the most famous English dub voice actor, he also states that Vic is not libel proof.

Here's the latest one:

I can't say how right or wrong he is, but let's just say that my ignorance on American law is the only reason I'm giving Ty and Nick the benefit of the doubt; because other than that I stand by calling Ty the Sargon of Weeb Wars.

 

[TexOffender]

I've recently been listening to Uncivil Law lately who, from what I can tell, tries to be as down to earth and impartial as possible taking a look at the various court docs regarding this case. In earlier videos he estimates MoRon's chance at winning to be at ~75%, Funimation's at ~85% and Vic's at around 30-40%. Especially in earlier videos he did get some minor facts wrong, but he said that the amount of background research he did on the case is probably more than the court of appeals will likely do.

UL argued in earlier videos that while Vic is a limited purpose public figure thanks to his "brand recognition" (my words not his) since he's de facto one of the most - if not the most famous English dub voice actor, he also states that Vic is not libel proof.

Here's the latest one:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mn80MUyp_qA
I can't say how right or wrong he is, but let's just say that my ignorance on American law is the only reason I'm giving Ty and Nick the benefit of the doubt; because other than that I stand by calling Ty the Sargon of Weeb Wars.

This dudes eyebrow quirk is giving me the creepies.

 

[7proxy]

Yeah, I don't know about that Kurt Mueller / Uncivil Law guy. He seems to think the Funi investigation is good enough to call Vic a sexual predator on Twitter. I don't remember exactly what's on the record about that investigation but I don't recall it having anything like that. I have no qualm with his opinion that it's legally sufficient to cover Funimation's ass, but he goes a step beyond when he says: (emphasis mine)

It wasn't the most thorough thing in the history of time but they actually did do some interviews and they actually did [??] reviews and HR got involved and you know, there is a fair amount here.

He's read the part with the missing "not" a few times but I can't tell whether he's meming or he thinks it makes a difference. (24:57) For sure I'd be infinitely embarrassed if I'd written that sentence but I think it's pretty clear that there's a "not" missing. I'm not an orange lawyer though, so that's just my rando opinion.

Also, he sounds like a big fan of LawTwitter when he says that "the community at large are better lawyers than Ty is." (30:40)

As far as I'm concerned he's as biased as Nick, only in the other way, and I find it annoying to hear him gloat about an innocent guy getting his life destroyed.

 

[AnOminous]

UL argued in earlier videos that while Vic is a limited purpose public figure thanks to his "brand recognition" (my words not his) since he's de facto one of the most - if not the most famous English dub voice actor, he also states that Vic is not libel proof.

That's no stretch. Also libel proof and public figure are two completely different things. Almost nobody is libel proof. You practically have to be a convicted serial killer or a child molester to have a reputation so bad you can't be defamed further. The very fact Vic had dozens of conventions before the defamation in this case is proof he wasn't libel proof because a total pariah would not be going to conventions at all, ever.

 

[quickthrowaway]

I've recently been listening to Uncivil Law lately who, from what I can tell, tries to be as down to earth and impartial as possible taking a look at the various court docs regarding this case.
I can't say how right or wrong he is, but let's just say that my ignorance on American law is the only reason I'm giving Ty and Nick the benefit of the doubt; because other than that I stand by calling Ty the Sargon of Weeb Wars.

No he isn't. But that's not a bad thing. His real crime is being as interesting as a wet dish rag. Also bald.

I can't say how right or wrong he is, but let's just say that my ignorance on American law is the only reason I'm giving Ty and Nick the benefit of the doubt; because other than that I stand by calling Ty the Sargon of Weeb Wars.

Oh you're a europoor or something. Never mind opinion discarded. Also Sargon of Applebees has won more lawsuits than Vic at this point.

 

[AnOminous]

Oh you're a europoor or something. Never mind opinion discarded. Also Sargon of Applebees has won more lawsuits than Vic at this point.

If he won that one 20 years or so ago he might have won as many.

 

[Fougaro]

Also, he sounds like a big fan of LawTwitter when he says that "the community at large are better lawyers than Ty is." (30:40)

If I'm not mistaken he means the ISWV community. As in Vic's fans have made better legal arguments than Ty.

Oh you're a europoor or something. Never mind opinion discarded. Also Sargon of Applebees has won more lawsuits than Vic at this point.

South Eastern Europoor to be more specific. The comparison with Sargon comes from Ty handling the case the same way the Stepfather handled UKIP's EU parliament elections if things are really as bad as Uncivil Law and the guys from the ALAB podcast (if anyone remembers them) allege. And just like him, Ty doesn't seem to be as smart as he thinks he is, to paraphrase Richard Spencer.

I'll have to admit, if the court of appeals does fully uphold Chupp's decision, the possibility of Vic suing Ty for malpractice would indeed be a spectacle to behold. We'll have plenty of Julay either way.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

I've recently been listening to Uncivil Law lately who, from what I can tell, tries to be as down to earth and impartial as possible taking a look at the various court docs regarding this case. In earlier videos he estimates MoRon's chance at winning to be at ~75%, Funimation's at ~85% and Vic's at around 30-40%. Especially in earlier videos he did get some minor facts wrong, but he said that the amount of background research he did on the case is probably more than the court of appeals will likely do.

UL argued in earlier videos that while Vic is a limited purpose public figure thanks to his "brand recognition" (my words not his) since he's de facto one of the most - if not the most famous English dub voice actor, he also states that Vic is not libel proof.

Here's the latest one:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Mn80MUyp_qA
I can't say how right or wrong he is, but let's just say that my ignorance on American law is the only reason I'm giving Ty and Nick the benefit of the doubt; because other than that I stand by calling Ty the Sargon of Weeb Wars.

Uncivil law gives an OK take, I just, I dunno, maybe the TCPA is that broad, but if the TCPA is that broad then I do think its constitutionality is in question.