Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[instythot]

I'm wondering if after the Judge does the most basic elements of his job, he might undo some of his dismissals. Is that an option? "Upon further review the TI is back on the table."

Well, the lawyer has to do his job before the judge does. Answer the "show me why the court should be resolving this dispute at all" question to the judge's satisfaction.

He might reverse it later, or he might be just as happy to have both of them out of his courtroom

 

[Immaculate Ape]

You're gonna give me hope and then I'm gonna have to eat an entire tree in Minecraft

Well, lots of reel left of this tape.

I'm sure that's why the KV side is trying so hard to act like it's over, so it demoralizes Vic's support entirely, but even they can't deny it's not out of the woods.

It'd be better if Chupp just dismisses everything outright, and then they can quickly go to appeals. Will have to see what happens, less than 30 days to go at least.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Well, lots of reel left of this tape.

I'm sure that's why the KV side is trying so hard to act like it's over, so it demoralizes Vic's support entirely, but even they can't deny it's not out of the woods.

It'd be better if Chupp just dismisses everything outright, and then they can quickly go to appeals. Will have to see what happens, less than 30 days to go at least.

See I've been on the fence about appeals. Vic and his team need to be able to conduct discovery and the time between the end of this case and the start of a new one could potentially mean that things get "lost" along the way. And the opposition is underhanded enough to do some sus shit in order to sweep their responsibility under the rug.

If they're even allowed to do more discovery or at least get subpoenas to get what they need.

I'm just hoping they can move forward with a clean-ish slate and I'm not sure if another go with Chupp would give them a better chance or appeals.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

See I've been on the fence about appeals. Vic and his team need to be able to conduct discovery and the time between the end of this case and the start of a new one could potentially mean that things get "lost" along the way. And the opposition is underhanded enough to do some sus shit in order to sweep their responsibility under the rug.

If they're even allowed to do more discovery or at least get subpoenas to get what they need.

I'm just hoping they can move forward with a clean-ish slate and I'm not sure if another go with Chupp would give them a better chance or appeals.

Thing is, and I've said this before but I'll say it here too, now all parties know what they're dealing with in Chupp. Before they've had very limited interaction with him and now they've had a full hearing with him, they have the best read they're going to get. He makes decisions quickly, he's decisive. If it doesn't make sense to him, he thinks it's bullshit and there's no convincing him at that time.

So, moving forward it's better to adjust your approach than it would be to risk trying to get a new judge and going through a new set of quirks, AND have the perception that you're just babyraging over a Judge's decision.

Better to rise to the Judge's expectations that he's now showing are exceptionally higher than standard, and cover your ass in every hearing with him to make a good case for appeals if it swerves out badly (this goes for both sides btw).

 

[TheClappening]

Time will tell if anything gets appealed, or if it's even a smart thing TO appeal.

I'll assume if Chupp doesn't throw out defamation and civil conspiracy that Ty just takes his licks, realizes he fucked up, and proceed with those causes of action.

TI was for the money. Defamation is for Vic's reputation.

And I just know if discovery moves forward, it'll be scrumptious.

 

[Urbanmech]

Guys better leave Dumbford alone, he's an "Army Husband" may have to pull out his wife's rank on you all.


ahh who we kidding probably just another Dependapotamus

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

Guys better leave Dumbford alone, he's an "Army Husband" may have to pull out his wife's rank on you all.


ahh who we kidding probably just another Dependapotamus

He seems more like the "My wife's boyfriend bought me a Nintendo Switch!" type to me. Which is probably in the same ballpark.

 

[AnOminous]

Good Lord. 1200 pages, mostly already filed elsewhere, with days to go to the hearing was a terrible approach. If anything was going to make a judge not read the filings, it's opening up a document to 1 of 1200 in the status bar

The vast majority of that was just the full depositions. If he'd been prepared with a tabbed list of the contents he might have even been able to cite more evidence instead of getting flustered by Chuppers.

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Man TCPA's are confusing

Dumb Dumbford is dumb.

 

[Imperial Agent]

So to those more versed in TCPA or just generally informed on the matter:

Was Ty supposed to be able to produce new information at the hearing? Nick's comment about "no response even needs to be filed for TCPA, they still have oral arguments" came across as meaning new information could still be introduced.

That specific line contributed to my surprise about the 2nd amended pleading being thrown out.

 

[CheezzyMach]

Lol that fanaticism.

Null told you faggots not to get to invested and just do this for fun. Now you re-tards are getting uppity when people are criticizing Ty for his failure and acting how you guys said the SJW's would if they would've gotten reamed by Chupp. Now you're using evidence of 3 random anons on the internet as proof of a Judge's prejudice in a case. That's quite literally the same level of proof the kickvic side used to call Vic a sexual predator. You had a problem with that but you don't have a problem with this?

Honestly from what Imperial Agent has said it sounds like Ty dropped the ball on this one.

Personally all I want out of this is if Vic's innocent is for him to have his name somewhat cleared and for these speds to leave him alone.

I don't give a shit about the dumb culture war shit.

 

[Imperial Agent]

I think Ty could have done better, I think Lemoine did worse.

Lemoine's PowerPoint was a joke, and his 230 argument was essentially laughed at.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Personally all I want out of this is if Vic's innocent is for him to have his name somewhat cleared and for these speds to leave him alone.

That won't be resolved by this court. That gets resolved by exposing that the accusers are lying scumbags.

If all you're concerned about is Vic's innocence, don't bother following this case, because you're expecting the court to remedy something it absolutely has no jurisdiction over.

 

[SiccDicc]

I think Ty could have done better, I think Lemoine did worse.

Lemoine's PowerPoint was a joke, and his 230 argument was essentially laughed at.

Do you think it's because Ty is old and tired?

 

[Calm]

I posted this in the main WW thread, but I feel this is more relevant here. Attached below is a visual spreadsheet of all the 2019 judicial reference scores for civil judges in Texas, Chupp included, based on various criteria. I'm not too sure as to who submitted the scores for the evaluations, but it's likely a mixture of lawyers and associated court personnel who have worked with the judge in question on trials. The link below contains the spreadsheet itself:

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While the original document this spreadsheet was based on was posted a few days ago, its format is honestly pretty shit for getting any sort of meaningful data for just one judge, let alone comparing them, so I reformatted it into something actually serviceable.

 

[quickthrowaway]

Do you think it's because Ty is old and tired?

It cause he was late and gay.

 

[Imperial Agent]

Do you think it's because Ty is old and tired?

No, he had plenty of energy in the courtroom.

I think him and Chupp just have very different approaches, which is bad when you need to be in sync with the judge for good results.

 

[CheezzyMach]

That won't be resolved by this court. That gets resolved by exposing that the accusers are lying scumbags.

If all you're concerned about is Vic's innocence, don't bother following this case, because you're expecting the court to remedy something it absolutely has no jurisdiction over.

Well that's why I'm interested in how the Defamation charges go because it'll discourage the speds harassing cons to cancel him if the defendants get fucked on them.

Honestly feel the damage to Funimation and the Funiclub's been done thanks to the lawsuit's orbiters' dragging their vast skeletons out.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

Well that's why I'm interested in how the Defamation charges go because it'll discourage the speds harassing cons to cancel him if the defendants get fucked on them.

Honestly feel the damage to Funimation and the Funiclub's been done thanks to the lawsuit's orbiters' dragging their vast skeletons out.

If their reactions haven't telegraphed things so far, even if the defamation charges stick through trial and appeals, the KV side are going to galaxy brain some explanation for why it doesn't prove anything.

These people already refuse to operate within the realm of facts, truth and logic. What makes you think a court is going to change their thought process?

 

[Legioneer]

Don't know why people are bothered by the public figure thing, Vic was always incredibly likely to be found as such. Yeah, he ain't no George Clooney or Brad Pitt level of known, but he is known enough that people all over the world are talking to people on the other side of the world about him, even before all this went down.

That's not exactly true. Even many anime fans don't watch anime in english dubbing.
Even fewer of them are interested in what the actors' names are.

 

[CheezzyMach]

If their reactions haven't telegraphed things so far, even if the defamation charges stick through trial and appeals, the KV side are going to galaxy brain some explanation for why it doesn't prove anything.

These people already refuse to operate within the realm of facts, truth and logic. What makes you think a court is going to change their thought process?

It has nothing to do with changing their opinions more discouraging them from repeating the defamation through fear of them being on the chopping block next if they don't stop.