US Vets stage sit-in at Capitol over burn pits vote - A group of veterans is staging a sit-in at the Capitol in response to Senate Republicans blocking a bill that would extend health care benefits to millions of veterans who were exposed to toxins during their service.

A group of veterans is staging a sit-in at the Capitol in response to Senate Republicans blocking a bill that would extend health care benefits to millions of veterans who were exposed to toxins during their service.

Twenty-five senators went from supporting the Sgt. 1st Class Heath Robinson Honoring Our PACT Act when it passed the Senate 84-14 last month to helping filibuster the bill when a technically updated version was blocked 55-42 on Wednesday.

“We got punched in the gut, right by those 25 senators that flipped their vote from yesterday,” Burn Pits 360 Executive Director and co-founder Rosie Torres told The Hill late Thursday.

Torres said the veterans rights group was spending the night on the steps of the U.S. Capitol “as a message to those senators, those 25 senators and asking them to right the wrong.”

“They shouldn’t be here, and to know that we’re in that America where they’ve turned their backs on veterans and their families are sick and dying. It’s disgusting. But if this is what we have to do to get the bill passed, and at all costs, all measures, we’re going to get it done,” she said.

The group later tweeted it would remain outside the Capitol until the next cloture vote on the bill, which is expected Monday.

The PACT Act was initially passed by the Senate before being tweaked by the House and sent back to the Senate for a second vote, where 24 Republicans and one Democrat voted against the bill.

“This is what it’s come to. Veterans. The sick, the dying. Fed up. Pulling an all nighter to support their fellow vets. This is the hell their service has brought them,” comedian Jon Stewart, a longtime advocate for veterans’ and first-responders’ health care, tweeted in response to the announcement of a “Fire Watch” hosted by veterans on Thursday night.

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We hate our vets,
free-dom enforcers.

The veterans grift is for Republicans what the abortion grift is for Democrats. And they both grift off of 2A fights.
 
There are reasons why I did not serve my country. Sometimes there is remorse, but all I have to look at my friend who fought in Desert Storm. He's the only survivor of his company. His medical records are classified and I'm slowly watching him waste away in front of me.

Then I snap out of it knowing, I can do is shake my head and know that there are things in the government they will not honor.
 
That's my first thought.
"Twenty-five senators went from supporting the Sgt. 1st Class Heath Robinson Honoring Our PACT Act when it passed the Senate 84-14 last month to helping filibuster the bill when a technically updated version was blocked 55-42 on Wednesday."

This part really sets off the alarms here. It sounds like the House tried to sneak some crap in that was in no way apart of the original bill. I just wish I had the text of the updates to understand just how bad it was.
 
So how much crap/pork was added to the bill to make it worthless?
when a technically updated version
No clue what definition they are using here but my money says it's less "technically" as in ensuring the correct wording is being used and more "yes technically it's no longer the same bill because of these updates but the name's the same."


This is what they voted on, my immediate suspicion from a skim is it's this stuff. The first seems okay but the rest seem ripe for abuse

TITLE IX--IMPROVEMENT OF WORKFORCE OF DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS

(Sec. 901) The VA must develop and implement a national rural recruitment and hiring plan for the VHA to, among other purposes, recruit health care professionals for rural and highly rural community-based outpatient clinics and medical centers.

(Sec. 902) The VA may buy out a non-VA service contract of certain health care professionals to whom the VA has offered employment in exchange for the individual agreeing to be employed at a rural or highly rural facility for at least four years.

(Sec. 903) The VA must establish qualifications for each of its human resources positions and establish standardized performance metrics for such positions. The VA must also establish or enhance its systems to monitor human resources actions that occur at local, regional, and national levels to improve performance of those actions. The VA must also submit a plan to Congress for the recruitment and retention of human resources employees within the VA.

(Sec. 904) This section increases the pay cap for certain employees of the VHA.

(Sec. 905) This section expands employment opportunities for housekeeping aides by removing the requirement that competition for VA housekeeping aide positions is restricted to preference eligibles.

(Sec. 906) This section modifies the authority of the VA related to hours, conditions and employment, and pay for certain employees of the VHA, specifically certain appointees and Senior Executive Service positions. Additionally, the section authorizes the VA to establish an awards program for certain appointed personnel, such as physicians.

(Sec. 907) The VA is authorized to waive any annual premium or aggregate limitation on pay for an employee of the VHA during the calendar year in which the official duty station of the employee is closed or the office, facility, activity, or organization of the employee is realigned. Similarly, the VA may waive any annual premium or aggregate limitation on pay for an employee whose primary duties include providing expanded care for veterans exposed to open burn pits.

(Sec. 908) This section eliminates the limitation on aggregate amounts for awards and bonuses for employees of the VA.

(Sec. 909) Among other elements, this section provides additional authority for the VA to provide recruitment and relocation bonuses, retention bonuses, merit awards, incentives for critical skills, and student loan repayments. The section increases the cap on the number of college graduates and post-secondary students the VA may hire through an expedited process. The VA may authorize the fixing of the rate of pay for critical positions in the VA, with some limitations. Additionally, the VA may establish a rate for special pay and may waive the limitation on certain payments, such as bonuses.
 
So how much crap/pork was added to the bill to make it worthless?
Your free to look at it to see why it didn't.

While looking into this, it seems that there are actually 2 bills of the same name, honestly though I could be wrong on this matter as I am not really all that familiar with Congressional procedure.

Here is the one that was voted on recently:
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Here is the one that I think the Senate supported (?):
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One of the more believable (IMHO) theories about what's REALLY GOING ON (tm) at Area 51 is that it's one big,, open-air burn pit that they can use to dispose of stuff they don't want by throwing it in a hole and lighting it up. A method they can't get away with due to environmental laws anywhere else.

And every time someone, be it enlisted or contractor, comes down with heavy metal poisoning or cancer from the mish mash of toxic/radioactive hazards they had to inventory, handle and bury? The military can just say "We have no knowledge of that, and you can't prove us wrong since all the paperwork is classified" thus dodging having to pay out the medical costs.
 
One of the more believable (IMHO) theories about what's REALLY GOING ON (tm) at Area 51 is that it's one big,, open-air burn pit that they can use to dispose of stuff they don't want by throwing it in a hole and lighting it up. A method they can't get away with due to environmental laws anywhere else.
Whatever's going on there, environmental/health concerns was part of what led to Slick Willy acknowledging Area 51. There was some court case that was going to force them to comply with shit and then Bill signed an executive order exempting them from environmental regs.
 
I thought this was going to be about veterinarians protesting breed specific legislation until I read the article.
 
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It's hilarious to me that Joe Biden's admin is speed running all of the crises from the worst US presidents. What's next, another dust bowl?
They're probably eyeing up a fertilizer ban, since all the cool countries are doing it.

And we'll be able to get Dust Bowl farm foreclosures and poverty WITHOUT the crops actually failing! hooray!
 
Wouldn't the dems be very pro this since Beau Biden possibly got cancer from this? Support something the Prsident would support and whatnot.
 
Like it or not, vet disability is one of the biggest grifts of our generation. I'm all for vets actually wounded in combat getting lifetime bennies, no shit, but in the age of the FOB Burger King, 40% of vets being permanently "disabled" is just another burn pit for cash.

The real solution is stopping endless wars in fucked up places, but good luck with that.

See https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2020/06/who-are-the-nations-veterans.html
Among Post-9/11 veterans with a disability, there is a more than a 1-in-3 chance that they will have the highest disability ratings (in this case, at least 70%), significantly more than any other group of veterans.
Just another form of welfare. Easier to digest because they served though.
 
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One of the more believable (IMHO) theories about what's REALLY GOING ON (tm) at Area 51 is that it's one big,, open-air burn pit that they can use to dispose of stuff they don't want by throwing it in a hole and lighting it up. A method they can't get away with due to environmental laws anywhere else.
but why? we had the technology to burn stuff faster and cleaner than a fucking pit for centuries...
 
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