Venom Movie - Spiderman? who's he?

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Also Nicolas Cage is apparently Noir Spider-Man.

Man, he’s crossing all kinds of superheroes off his list.

 

[Somar]

I know Sony Picture animation is making Spiderverse, but how much is the rest of Sony involved? Cause if Homecoming and the rest of Spiderman's MCU apperances prove anything, the less involvment they have in a Spiderman film, the more likely it turns out to be good.

 

[Wärring Ornac]

Apparently she's drastically different from her comic book counterpart

Probably because her comicbook counterpart's robot is literally EVA

Also this is the venom counterpart

 

[Zaryiu]

So how did Sony fuck up this time?

 

[BrunoMattei]

So how did Sony fuck up this time?

They rushed it out and then lost faith in it and cut it to a PG-13. There's your reason right there.

Now, I wonder if they'll release an unrated version down the line to recoup some of their loss?

 

[Commander X]

The first trailer for the Venom movie looked like a psychological thriller and Venom was rarely seen in the trailer materials and when that symbiote took possession of Eddie Brock it was NOT so he could do a bunch of cheesy Marvel quipping.

I'm guessing they tested it, the focus groups said, "Where's Venom? Where's all the snarky one liners?" so Sony said, "Give the people what they want" and now Venom is a monologuing, scenery-chewing ham and Eddie Brock can't brush his teeth in the film without some symbiote appendage brushing his teeth for him.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

You know the symbiote really should have had a female voice when it's talking to Eddie in his head. But then they aren't doing the whole weird spurned lover subtext with Parker rejecting the bonding so maybe not.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw
Either way I wouldnt be surprised if it sucks.
Sony just doesnt seem to be able to do a decent superhero movie.

I bet that was a really fun recording session.

 

[RockVolnutt]

I like the weird fetish articles that are popping up if only became female perverts aren't self aware enough to realize they're creeps too who should be mocked to no end for it.

 

[Zaryiu]

They rushed it out and then lost faith in it and cut it to a PG-13. There's your reason right there.

Now, I wonder if they'll release an unrated version down the line to recoup some of their loss?

I meant in the sense of whatdid they fuck up in the movie itself

The first trailer for the Venom movie looked like a psychological thriller and Venom was rarely seen in the trailer materials and when that symbiote took possession of Eddie Brock it was NOT so he could do a bunch of cheesy Marvel quipping.

I'm guessing they tested it, the focus groups said, "Where's Venom? Where's all the snarky one liners?" so Sony said, "Give the people what they want" and now Venom is a monologuing, scenery-chewing ham and Eddie Brock can't brush his teeth in the film without some symbiote appendage brushing his teeth for him.

Venom has been a ham since Eddie was introduced back in 1988 so i don't see the problem

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Yeah Venom is a character whose solo film should have just been a slightly more grounded Deadpool in feel.

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Venom has been a ham since Eddie was introduced back in 1988 so i don't see the problem

I think it's less an argument that they didn't do the character properly than it is people thought it was going to go in one, infinitely more interesting direction, and then watched them do exactly what everyone expected them to do.

 

[Commander X]

I don't mind quips but the recent spate of Marvel-based films' writers seem to have taken "You Too Can Learn How To Write Like Joss Whedon In Just Two Easy Lessons!" correspondence courses where the prime lesson is cram these cheeseball one-liners into every nook and cranny of the script, even when it's not needed.

 

[CausticMinory]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sMk-HPBF6Mw
Either way I wouldnt be surprised if it sucks.
Sony just doesnt seem to be able to do a decent superhero movie.

FTFY

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Doesn't look good for Amy Pascal's Spidey Cinematic Universe and for that we can be glad.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Doesn't look good for Amy Pascal's Spidey Cinematic Universe and for that we can be glad.

Yeah, she wanted to do a feminist superhero film with Black Cat an someone else and call it The Glass Ceiling. And no, she didn't learn her lesson from the Ghostbusters remake.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Yeah, she wanted to do a feminist superhero film with Black Cat an someone else and call it The Glass Ceiling. And no, she didn't learn her lesson from the Ghostbusters remake.

Black Cat and Silver Sable in "Black and Silver". I think Glass Ceiling would have been one that features all the female characters they have the rights to.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Black Cat and Silver Sable in "Black and Silver". I think Glass Ceiling would have been one that features all the female characters they have the rights to.

Yeah and Pascal wanted to do some kind of feminist all female superhero film called Glass Ceiling for years. She probably saw her opportunity with the Spider Man I.P. to shoehorn those characters into her (bad) idea.

 

[A Random]

I think it's less an argument that they didn't do the character properly than it is people thought it was going to go in one, infinitely more interesting direction, and then watched them do exactly what everyone expected them to do.

What direction was it supposed to go towards?

 

[Slowboat to China]

I saw the film last night, and I have to say, I enjoyed it! While there's a fair amount of cheesy quipping, it's more of the Venom symbiote second-guessing and mocking Eddie than LOLSORANDOM I AM MASTURBATING WITH A UNICORN (lookin' at you, Deadpool), and I really enjoyed the fact that Venom was allowed to be a messy, unpolished bastard who straight-up eats people.

Yeah, the Planet of the Symbiotes part is pure bullshit, but the Life Foundation/Lethal Protector stuff is okay. And I liked that we got a little time to get to know Eddie and build some anticipation before it's on with the suit and the CGI really kicks in.

Current Rotten Tomatoes score is something like 33% with critics, 89% with audiences. I think that sums it up, really.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

I hate what this movie stands for. This is basically Sony saying "Yeah Marvel, you can help us with Spidey, but YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS THING BECAUSE FUCK YOU." Amy Pascal was seriously hoping to make a successful comic book movie so they could allow their joint-custody Spidey contract with Marvel to expire. They just shat this movie out because they wanted that money NOW. They made the Amazing(ly god awful) Spider-Man movies only to make their contractual deadline before losing the rights to Marvel, and now they made this movie because apparently they want to piss off everyone.

The movie looks fucking terrible. Though, I will admit that I have developed a morbid curiosity in checking it out at some point because friends of mine have told me that it's "Catwoman bad." I also watched a leaked clip of the post credits scene, and I laughed at it SO hard (while simultaneously flipping the bird at the screen because of how bad it was).

And I don't see the point in making a Venom movie with no Spider-Man in it. Eddie's relationship with the symbiote is a, surprise surprise, a SYMBIOTIC one. They came together because of their shared hatred of Spider-Man and Peter Parker. Even Spider-Man 3 got this concept in the correct ballpark. The most interesting thing about Venom is how Spider-Man affects him; I really don't think he's interesting at all on his own. Fight me.

Nobody can tell me with any amount of sincerity that it wouldn't have been awesome to have a Spider-Man movie with Venom in it, and then plan for one of the sequels to have Carnage in it, thus forcing Spidey and Venom to work together eventually.

Fuck you, Sony.