Using US Courts to Burn Money, for Free, Forever

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

@Null What can you explain to us the mechanics of getting attorney's fees from Greer? How much does it cost? How much could you take? What does Greer have (I know he's got some sort of unskilled job and he frequently uses that to pay for hookers)?

 

[vlcsr]

If they file in different states it will be a lot easier to get their cases dismissed due to lack of jurisdiction.

Honestly Josh’s best bet now is getting a law degree and representing himself. He’d still need help from other lawyers in states he’s not licensed in but he could do a lot of the work himself.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

bullied by ralph into writing a limpdick water treading article, what a pity

Gunted so much, all you can do is guard your precious sharting princess from everyone, even if said princess wasn't even mentioned anywhere

 

[John Furrman]

Good read, and you're developing a good writing style

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Most of Melinda's nutcase lawsuits were dismissed effectively by judges that did their job without needing to force the defendant to spend thousands of dollars. Then the last one didn't and it sucks that the only party in this that faces actual monetary losses is the one that was clearly correct.

Options that could avoid this in civil cases:
1) Per se plaintiffs must submit property or bond sufficient to cover the initial phase of a lawsuit
2) Those who cannot do 1, including but not limited to those filing IFP must submit their case for actual review by a judicial authority to determine that each claim passes the lowest bar possible. Russell Greer should not have been able to file his ridiculous lawsuit unless it was pruned of everything but the copyright claim. Melinda should be laughed out of every court she tries to step into.
3) Claims such as initial certification of service should also face basic review. The "trust me" system doesn't work if there's little or no recourse for lying or being wrong as there is for lawyers.
4) If plaintiff passes 2 and 3 but the claims are thrown out (failure to state a claim, etc) because the judicial reviewer didn't do his job, the court covers reasonable attorney's costs for the defendant and can then try to recover those costs from the plaintiff using all methods at its disposal.

This would place more labor on the court but might get it to actually do something so that individuals can't be sued into the ground by insane people. I don't hold out much hope for changes, though. Not many people face this problem because the typical targets for frivolous lawsuits are wealthy people- like Taylor Swift- who can squash them like a bug without worrying about the costs.

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[FunPosting101]

People really shouldn't be able to file frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit, but much like the case of the practically unchecked power of the courts in our system, nobody has a good solution to the problem.

 

[Jarolleon]

As the Spiffing Brit would say, the US legal system is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Am I the only one concerned that by posting this you may just be giving other cows ideas on how to cause problems for the site that they otherwise would not have been aware of? If it really is as easy as this in America to frivolously sue someone, I'd personally be of the opinion that less visibility would be the more sensible method of prevention, regardless of how frustrating the reality of all this may be.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I am surprised that Melinda nd Russell are not arrested after what is basically harassmen to exceptiona levels.

I wonder if Mel could actually be charged with harassment under Virginia Law? It would be delicious irony to turn things back on her.

 

[Trig.Point]

This is what happens when the asylums are closed. Both Greer and Melinda should've been involuntarily committed a long time ago.

This is an argument for a well run welfare state. If Greer and Melinda were in some sort of Nordic style institution, they'd get a room, 3 meals a day, and someone to nod and listen to their shit.

 

[Meiwaku]

Read the article. VA doesn't but even if I got her penalized she's already promised to refile in FL where she'd not be a Vex.

is this statement not evidence that she is indeed a litigious shitigant?

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

is this statement not evidence that she is indeed a litigious shitigant?

To a normal person, yes. However, US law is structured to ensure that it's as difficult as possible to remove a person's ability to take someone to court. While obviously this is done with the best of intentions (i.e., give a normal person means to go after a more powerful target), it does leave the system ripe for abuse. That statement could be presented as evidence that she's doing this maliciously, though.

 

[Pill Cosby]

I hope Null takes everything he can from Greer, including Yo Yovanna. That would be funny.

If I owned that song and it’s rights I would cut out the retard that talks at the end.

 

[WendyClitlock]

Put up shitty banner porn ads. Or Raid shadow legends banner ads lol.

I imagine people like Russ are the type that will unironically click on "Hot singles in YOUR AREA want to meet!"

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

Even if you can't actually get anything from Melinda suing her for damages would probably scare her off from continuing to do this. Hell, only going after Russell would maybe be enough to scare her away, at least for a while.

 

[datura_binge]

My course of action would be to report her to the agencies giving her public funds, tbh. Show that she is spending their time and their money to do these things rather than to help herself in any meaningful way or provide for the kids.

 

[Alba gu brath]

You're in a shite place Josh, if you stop fighting and standing on the hill, free speech takes a battering, if you stand on the hill waving the flag like a mad man, you gain nothing but ethical purity that most on the left and right don't give two shites about the moment it doesn't favour their cause. Dinnae envy your position, but damn sure am I happy someone has the mad, crazy balls to even try. If nothing else, at least ya can stand on the metaphorical mount top, middle fingers raised in the air to all these daft weirdos who cannae take folk laughing at what they put out for all to see and shudder at.

 

[Null]

is this statement not evidence that she is indeed a litigious shitigant?

Many of her statements are and there's nothing I can do about it.

 

[Гиджет]

This is an argument for a well run welfare state. If Greer and Melinda were in some sort of Nordic style institution, they'd get a room, 3 meals a day, and someone to nod and listen to their shit.

And video game consoles, televisions, DVD players, electronic typewriters, newspapers and exercise machines. Maybe for Mel they’ll throw in a breast milking pump for her six retards.

 

[lolnah]

@Null this is nitpicky, and you're going to fucking hate me for this, but any time you have punctuation near quotation marks, whether or not the punctuation is part of the original quote, the punctuation goes inside the quotes. For example:

Melinda Scott is "the dumbest person, possibly ever." Regardless of whether the original quote ended there or not, if it's the end of the sentence the punctuation still goes inside the quotations. Should you have a sentence where you're using quotation marks to delineate/highlight/be snarky about something - like, for example, saying Ethan Ralph is a "journalist," the comma goes inside those quotes as well.

Your writing is excellent, and I deeply enjoy reading it.