User MNM has questions about Loli and stalking

[MNM]

I got a question.
I got into a heated feud with someone last month over creators being complacent with people saying, drawing, etc disgusting stuff about their characters.
I think this discussion fits here as a lot of characters are kids, and i find it annoying how i can't enter a thread on /v/ for example about a game that just so happens to feature a little girl without it getting derailed by pedophile gooners.
Granted i didn't bring up the pedophiles then but i think it applies still.
The4 way i see, Capcom for example released Pragmata, and this has cause a lot of pedophiles to lust over the little girl character, and i doubt Capcom doesn't know about it, yet they don't do anything about it, they are complacent.
And i say that God doesn't like complacency because it lead to more sin in the world with that complacency becoming sin in and of itself.
But he says to have God's gift of creativity and to do nothing with it because others don't deserve it sin, and he says to do something about it is also sin.
I say he's twisting my words a bit and to be fair maybe i am twisting his as well.
But i wanna know your guys' thoughts on this, who's right here? Is it a sin to be complacent and let others lust over God's gift of creativity or is it sin to not use that creativity or to do something about those who damage it? If both then what's the bigger sin?
If anyone is interested in discussing this further then feel free to private message me as this full discussion cover more than the whole loli and shota stuff.

 

[Climate 4C]

I got a question.

This would be better as an off topic thread or a question in a religious thread, but since you're here I'll give my 2 cents. Evil people are gonna do evil shit no matter what. Saying that it's not worth creating anything because disgusting freaks will try to twist is illogical, that's like saying there's no point in trying to better your life because you could get cancer. Pragmata isn't exactly a good example because it's not being twisted, it was explicitly marketed towards pedos with the whole "Cryana" emoji of the child character crying, in reference to the pedo dogwhistle.I'm not christian and this isn't a religious discussion thread so I won't speak on the "Is it a sin?" aspect of the question.

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I imagine if someone does go to his house. Instead of shooting them Boogie style he's gonna Naturo run at them instead, with the amount of these cringe anime clips, he imagines himself doing with these tweets.

This fag lives in Washington and lived in Cali prior to then, there is no way he has "an entire arsenal". One of the top 10 most cucked states in the US and Mr Spic over here is challenging people to show up at his house. You can't make this shit up.

 

[007wins]

This fag lives in Washington and lived in Cali prior to then, there is no way he has "an entire arsenal". One of the top 10 most cucked states in the US and Mr Spic over here is challenging people to show up at his house. You can't make this shit up.

Yes, but have you considered he has the power of god and anime on his side.

 

[MNM]

This would be better as an off topic thread or a question in a religious thread,

OK, mind sharing a link to such threads?

but since you're here I'll give my 2 cents. Evil people are gonna do evil shit no matter what.

That doesn't have to be the case if companies actually protect their IPs and characters and put down those making a mockery of their works.
I find it ironic how people nowadays are saying things like "This AI is harming my perception of this character and franchise! This company should sue or i'm no longer supporting!" And hey, that's true, i hate AI as well, but the same logic should apply to the likes of pornography as well..

Saying that it's not worth creating anything because disgusting freaks will try to twist is illogical, that's like saying there's no point in trying to better your life because you could get cancer.

I say a better analogy is that it's irresponsible to have a baby and not properly protect and defend it from getting disrespected and perverted. And if we live in a world where that will happen no matter what (It doesn't have to be, people only think that way because too many people are complacent, but i digress.) then it'd be irresponsible to have a baby in such a world in the first place.
Jesus Himself said "Don't cast pearls before swine or else they will trample on them." so why should i cast my pearls in a world full of swines who will do nothing but trample on them? It'd be going against the words of Jesus on a worldwide scale.
And besides, wanna know what will happen if i ever make a game, cartoon, etc? I won't be complacent with the lust that would be shove onto it, i would fight back and even bring Congress into it.
So why should i work on anything creative when i can skip that and go straight into working on bringing the filth to the public attention and help put laws and regulations in place to make the world a better place?

Pragmata isn't exactly a good example because it's not being twisted, it was explicitly marketed towards pedos with the whole "Cryana" emoji of the child character crying, in reference to the pedo dogwhistle

I know of what you're referring to but even then i have to say this is some schizophrenic tier assumption right here with no real evidence or proof.
I doubt any of what you said here is true.
But since that's how ya view the game let me use another example.
What about people drawing disgusting pornographic images of characters from, off the top of my head, Avatar The Last Air Bender?
Is it not wrong for Nickelodeon and any other member of the show's crew to be complacent with that filth?

I'm not christian and this isn't a religious discussion thread so I won't speak on the "Is it a sin?" aspect of the question.

Well it's a discussion that can be had with or without any Christian involvement as it's a moral problem, a humanity issue.
I only mentioned Christianity because that was part of the discussion me and that other guy had.

 

[Climate 4C]

Well it's a discussion that can be had with or without any Christian involvement as it's a moral problem, a humanity issue.
I only mentioned Christianity because that was part of the discussion me and that other guy had.

I understand that, that's exactly why I separated from the religious aspect right away.

I know of what you're referring to but even then i have to say this is some schizophrenic tier assumption right here with no real evidence or proof.
I doubt any of what you said here is true.

Capcom received feedback to the announcement of their game, including a bunch of lolicons spamming the crying emoji and making sexualized comments about the child character. The company, despite that, created an emoji that is exactly like the crying emoji used by pedophiles, specifically lolicons. That is not schizophrenic tier assumption, that's basic pattern recognition.

My answer to all the rest is this: Individual employees working for a company do not have the legal right to sue over degenerates making drawn CSAM of their characters, only whatever company holds the copyright does. Also it seems like you're assuming that I think companies should be complacent, I do not think that. It is an individual creator or company's responsibility to handle issues involving their creation. As I said, evil people will do evil shit, that doesn't mean you shouldn't push back and it doesn't mean that you should cower and refuse to create anything. If you want to see new laws against evil behavior put in place, do something. It's the same thing Null always say: talk to your representatives and get involved with your government. I'm sure many people in this thread have done that, I know I have.

I checked your profile and I see that you seem confused about some things involving the site (whether or not there's private messaging, what MATI is, etc). I mean this in a nice way: lurk and do some reading. Check out the different sections of the site, search up people you know about and read their thread, check out the non-lolcow related parts of the forum, even go to Q&A and ask something retarded, and read through the rules and guidelines that Null has written. Whatever you do, just don't PL or do anything to give you a pink triangle.

 

[MNM]

Capcom received feedback to the announcement of their game, including a bunch of lolicons spamming the crying emoji and making sexualized comments about the child character. The company, despite that, created an emoji that is exactly like the crying emoji used by pedophiles, specifically lolicons. That is not schizophrenic tier assumption, that's basic pattern recognition.

While i don't doubt that feedback to be true i doubt the game itself was made specifically for pedophiles by pedophiles and i doubt they even know the context behind the crying emoji.

My answer to all the rest is this: Individual employees working for a company do not have the legal right to sue over degenerates making drawn CSAM of their characters, only whatever company holds the copyright does.

Those individual employees should at least be outspoken against it and the companies should put a stop to it.
I remember reading a story of when two Disney employees showed Walt him pornography of his characters on his birthday. He fired them and burned the footage. That's what every company should be doing but they're too complacent because people online nowadays throw a fit when they don't get everything they want. Like how, for example, Chibi Reviews is throwing a fit every time someone simply disagrees with him.

Also it seems like you're assuming that I think companies should be complacent, I do not think that. It is an individual creator or company's responsibility to handle issues involving their creation. As I said, evil people will do evil shit, that doesn't mean you shouldn't push back

Well then ya at least agree with me on that.

and it doesn't mean that you should cower and refuse to create anything.

No. Like i said, i refuse to do anything with God's Gift of creativity when i know people will only disrespect it. If i make something what i'll do is do what's right anyway, so like i said, why not skip the creating part right into doing something about it?
I'd rather wait for all life on earth to die and everyone who'd disrespect my work to be sent to Gehenna so i can start my creative dreams in God's Kingdom of the New Earth where everyone will have respect and no ill desires.
But until then what's wrong with passing time by doing something about it on this earth?
It's not cowering, it's protection, and either way i'm still going to go after the freaks of this world so why not?

If you want to see new laws against evil behavior put in place, do something. It's the same thing Null always say: talk to your representatives and get involved with your government.

I'm trying, but it's going to take a while, and i'm going to need good influence to make real differences and fast, so that's going to take a while as well, going to need to get the public's attention on this stuff, not only people online.
In fact i know information that can get a lot of people arrested but i am only one guy who can't even afford his own house and even telling this stuff to social workers, doctors, etc hasn't been much help.

I'm sure many people in this thread have done that, I know I have.

If multiple people have already done so yet nothing happens then what does that make this situation?
Legit question, i wanna know, because it seems like the situation is more dire and hopeless than i thought.

I checked your profile and I see that you seem confused about some things involving the site (whether or not there's private messaging, what MATI is, etc).

Yes, i admit i am new here, but i find such stalking to be creep behavior.
I would like an apology for it.

I mean this in a nice way: lurk and do some reading. Check out the different sections of the site, search up people you know about and read their thread, check out the non-lolcow related parts of the forum, even go to Q&A and ask something retarded, and read through the rules and guidelines that Null has written. Whatever you do, just don't PL or do anything to give you a pink triangle.

OK, but what's that going to do? How will that give me progress in helping there be more justice in this world, helping spread God's Will and how is anything i am doing now wrong?

Edit: I know you're trying to help and i appreciate it. I don't want their to be any negativity between us so i hope i didn't say anything to offend and i hope you don't think i am against you or anything, i simply want to express my feelings while asking real questions.
Also, know of anywhere i can speak out about personal experiences with game devs and Discord stuff?

Porn is a hell of a drug

Should have never been made legal.
The only reason why it is is because the governments around the world want people to be poisoned by it as well as making money off of it.
It's all the work of the devil and every government is being controlled it.

 

[Climate 4C]

Yes, i admit i am new here, but i find such stalking to be creep behavior.
I would like an apology for it.

Your profile is public. If you want it to be private, you have the option to do that. I will not apologize for viewing publicly available information. The main things that happen on this site are archival and discussion. If you have a problem with someone looking at public information in that way, this is most likely is not the best site for you to use.

I'm not going to participate in the topic any further. We've taken up enough space in this thread. You are not changing your mind and neither am I, and there is nothing else on the topic to discuss or flesh out that hasn't been said already. If you want to advocate for something, do it in the proper circumstances. If you want to find a piece of information or find a community that aligns to your goals, use your browser and the search functions on websites.

 

[MNM]

Your profile is public. If you want it to be private, you have the option to do that.

How do i do that?

I will not apologize for viewing publicly available information.

I never wanted anyone stalking me in the first place.

The main things that happen on this site are archival and discussion.

Sound to me like you people should be doing a lot more.

If you have a problem with someone looking at public information in that way, this is most likely is not the best site for you to use.

Ya said people have the choice to keep things private even here, you should respect that.
And besides, if i don't saty here then how am i able to progress in spreading God's Will and Justice?

I'm not going to participate in the topic any further. We've taken up enough space in this thread. You are not changing your mind and neither am I, and there is nothing else on the topic to discuss or flesh out that hasn't been said already.

You're not even going to help me by leading in the directions i asked for? Directions ya yourself said ya wanted me to go?
Either ya want me to visit more of this site or ya don't, what is it?

If you want to advocate for something, do it in the proper circumstances.

Like i said, i try, but it's harder than it sounds and it doesn't happen fast.
And ya won't even help me with it.

If you want to find a piece of information or find a community that aligns to your goals, use your browser and the search functions on websites.

I already found this place and so far literally everyone has been fine with me except ya. You're the only one who's been hatin what i'm sayin. And what i'm saying is aligning with what the majority in this thread is sayin.
But if i'm doin anything wrong, then like i said, tell me.

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Why do lolicons always try to go after children’s media in Japan!

Because Japanese character designs are a balance of anatomically correct humans with exaggerated features to make them look more kid like.
Also Japan is the country that is the most supportive of this stuff, where else do ya think this all originates from?

 

[Helping Friendly Book]

(absolute SNCA)

 

[MNM]

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[Fag Alert Major Fag Alert]

Because Japanese character designs are a balance of anatomically correct humans with exaggerated features to make them look more kid like.
Also Japan is the country that is the most supportive of this stuff, where else do ya think this all originates from?

The best advice I can give you is something like this.


You got it?

 

[FuluFuckwit]

-I'm a double posting faggot-

I'm afraid we're gonna have to take you out back and put you down like old yeller.

 

[MNM]

The best advice I can give you is something like this.

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You got it?

Thanks!

I'm afraid we're gonna have to take you out back and put you down like old yeller.

What did i do that was so wrong?

So the capcom game is basically God of War 2018 but Atreus doesn’t wear pants, for totally good lore reasons, and normal people have to pretend it’s not pedophilia and also they make stickers referencing pedophilia memes but it’s just a coincidence, the devs aren’t pedophiles?

not everyone sees things with a perverted view.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

Thanks!

What did i do that was so wrong?

not everyone sees things with a perverted view.

Do you masturbate to cartoon children?
Just curious.

 

[MNM]

Do you masturbate to cartoon children?
Just curious.

No, i came here because i am against that stuff and i want those who do such a thing to face justice for their actions.

 

[MNM]

Do you masturbate to cartoon children?
Just curious.

Can i get an apology for your false insinuation?

 

[Chan the Wizard]

Can i get an apology for your false insinuation?

No. I asked a question and received an answer.