USA should bring back slavery

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>free food.
>free place to stay.
>mandatory wife provided.
>my lineage having the right to bitch and whine about being slaves for the next 200 years until they're the ones holding the whip.

Sure, why not. Sign me up.
 
The one benefit is that you don't have to work if you're not a slave and can't be literally beaten into submission, but when your only alternative is often starvation, it's a raw deal.
You and your children are also not legally recognized as a mere extension of someone else's person hood and can't be sold at whim to someone else.
 
The slavery practiced by the bigtime Southern planters was already struggling to stay profitable due to the introduction of cheap unskilled immigrant labor in non-agrarian industries and the advent of the cotton gin. And that was with the benefit of vertical integration and economies of scale inherent to the big plantations. For the smaller slaveholders (ie 1-2 slaves), they got pushed from both ends by the general economic pressures on one hand and the profit-cutting competition of the big plantations on the other hand.
 
Hell, why not bring back the Viking thrall system again? We can even do shit like raid people and take away their freedoms, sell them for money, and for shits and giggles, sacrifice them to Odin and the Aesir every funeral! It will be great!

On the other hand, this is how Phantasy Star Universe got started.....
 
So, debtor's prison and indentured servitude, then?

I mean, every US citizen is practically born with about $65,225 of debt considering the US government debts, so in some sense that is already true.

It's a bit tough to do conversions to worth to previous times, but a slave could buy their freedom (if accepted) for about $800 in 1860, which is about $21,000 in todays money.

You're born enslaved three times over compared to slaves in 1860.

(if you wanted to buy someone in 2014 it's supposedly between $400 and $40000 depending on age and location. With exception of India and mozambique, where a girl child costs 24 dollar and 2 dollar respectively)
 
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(if you wanted to buy someone in 2014 it's supposedly between $400 and $40000 depending on age and location. With exception of India and mozambique, where a girl child costs 24 dollar and 2 dollar respectively)

You mean I can make $40k just by kidnapping some bitch? Why the fuck am I working?

EDIT: YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm flyin' to Romania!
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Why do you think there's a push to open the borders wide? We'll get a massive influx of people who'll work all day for a pack of peanuts and sleep fifteen to an apartment, plus wages will be so depressed the rest of us will have to do the same.

It's like a two-fer deal.
 
So lets take an honest look at modern slavery.

Despite the dire conditions of the developing world in terms of sweat shops and the literal lack of value to the individual human life, I do not consider those a form of slavery rather than an oppression of labor.

The simple fact if it is, is that if you didn't want the exploitative systems of labor to exist in these developing countries, then it would require hard decision which I'm not sure the average first world citizens would be prepared to make, even though in the long term it would benefit them. (Support of local industries, local jobs without the leftists or wing nut unions involvements, and being willing to pay a higher price for that T-shirt.)

That is the eradication of cheap industrial goods that are produced by that labor. There is a reason that sweat shops exist. They fuel the local economy and allow the interchange of wealth from the developed world to the undeveloped world. Unfortunately the person on the very bottom wrung of this ladder, does not see a vast amount of that wealth redistribution, and consider how many 3rd world bosses are the very epitome of avarice, they are not likely going to see grand improvements, but now they are in the system there is no place for them outside it.

They could return to subsistence farming. (Guaranteed poverty without knowledge of better farming practices.) but a lot of them have been removed from the land now for so long, that returning them to agrarian practice wouldn't work. (Cambodia under Pol Pot tried this. It was massively unsuccessful, as the mountains of human skull will attest to.)

In much the same way the industrial revolution in the west took subsistence farmers and brought them into the factories and generally out of poverty. (Despite the appalling conditions, a lot of families were able to make it.) And lead to the development of prosperity, land, and wealth that the west had only managed to destroy through two costly world wars, and several different political upsets. (The irony being, that the WWI & part of II were the creation of factory output never before seen in the scale of private industry, and actually empowered the working class enough that they created the back bone for the labor movement.)

That said it took a lot of time, ingenuity and human misery to create the situation of industrial wealth and prosperity that had reached its peak in the late 60's from there, a lot of the actual industrialized world changed from a mass exporter to mass importer and service industries and finances became the key economic sectors not industrial output, which is for the most part turned over to the developing world.

Now with the out of the way, where do many instances of modern slavery exist?

Well mainly in Africa and the Arab world in open. While it is illegal to own slaves in Saud, these so called "Servants" that exist are basically legal slaves in this regard. Amongst western countries the greatest cases of modern slavery occur in migrant populations. (Indians and Pakistani's are especially self predatory, as well as the Chinese.) Or in the sex trafficking trade, which ironically is mainly a white on white endeavor and is Eastern Europeans being used as brothel labor in the West. (Way to go Schengen zone.)

None of these contribute to the economy in a meaningful way. The guy who is working in a cheap labor job and living ten to a house is often either illegal or does not have right to abode, and therefore is not able to work in a legal capacity anyways, but instead works for this modern slave owner who is usually a landlord as well as employer.

They cover their illegal labor, by not only paying them under the market rates for labor, but as well crowding them into what are essentially flop houses and charging them rental rates which is usually taken out of their pay, so their already paltry fee is essentially reduced.

What money they do have, they usually send home, though even in some of these cases the boss acts as a banker, because the employee can't get a bank account, so again it's rife for abuse.

Aside from sales taxes on the minimal amount of money, this person will be spending, they're essentially a vampire on the economy, because they are using the infrastructures in place, without paying any meaningful form or tax, and neither is the employer, or not in a way that isn't being fudged, laundered and used to fund sweatshops back home.

And it doesn't matter if the employees get seized, because with loose border controls, and a toothless police service there is no way for there to ever be a run off of cheap desperate labor that will be predated upon by their countrymen in the guise of doing them a moral good.

Same rules apply for North America though it's often Mexicans or Somali's or other imports that can get traded out.

And why do people allow it to happen? I think it's partially because it's not actually brought to the fore of everyone's attentions and why would it? The media is sympathetic towards the idea of globalism and economic migrants, and so unless it's a truly tantalizing story they aren't going to write something that contradicts their agreed narratives.

At the same time anyone who tries to point out the fact that they undervalue the market is either labelled as xenophobic or a racist, or anti-capitalist, despite the legitimate business being at a disadvantage because it's following the laws that the country had created, rather than just doing it's own thing.

Finally the major disappointment I find is in the lack of common sense thinking on behalf of the consumers/citizens of the products produced.

Whether that is cheap clothing, cheap labor, cheap food. Everyone is primed to obsess about some perceived form of deal, versus real world value. And I understand that the counter argument to this is that people need these cheap consumer goods in order to be able to function in these high cost high living standards countries they live in, but it's a lie.

People devalue their labor markets, flooding the lower and middle tier ends with cheap easily replaceable labor then complain about low and stagnant wages. In places where the industries are already moving towards an automation/technician style labor force.

They complain about the failure of native industries, yet buy bulk cheap goods from other countries because of a price differential. Despite the fact that the more expensive native brands will last longer and perform better over a longer period of time.

They complain about affordable housing, social program costs, and failing infrastructure, while allowing their governments, left wing organisations, and major business players to push through waves of hundreds of thousands of people who will become a strain on these services and compete and in most cases outbid the same group of poor people that the programs were originally created to protect.

They push their children to get semi-useless degrees in colleges and amass large amounts of debt in the process which the degree itself won't likely pay for, while ceding traditional industries to the new immigrant classes who end up becoming so embedded in these industries that they in time come to dominate them and can further push out any native labor.
 
The one benefit is that you don't have to work if you're not a slave and can't be literally beaten into submission, but when your only alternative is often starvation, it's a raw deal.

you do as there is no true ownership anymore. Owning a house in US, you only "own" it as long as you pay taxes and town doesn't take back, same as with everything else, your freedom, your other possessions. You can only keep them if you pay somehow protection money.

'Tis called mass incarceration and prison labour.

Masters worldwide recognize that it's much more profitable to inslave productive members of society, who can actually perform more sophisticated work, create new things. All of them are tagged with numbers, IDs, diplomas. They are NOT free to go, to disappear or free of constantly paying protection money to one master or another. In addition there are emotional chains of guilt and constructs like duty, patriotism etc.
 
Masters worldwide recognize that it's much more profitable to inslave productive members of society, who can actually perform more sophisticated work, create new things. All of them are tagged with numbers, IDs, diplomas. They are NOT free to go, to disappear or free of constantly paying protection money to one master or another. In addition there are emotional chains of guilt and constructs like duty, patriotism etc.

The real reason suicide or attempted suicide is considered a crime in most places these days: damaging government property has always been a crime, the definition of "government property" just expanded.

If you are in debt (some more than others, but most everyone is by now when you look at the details) you have had a value ascribed to your life and your labor. Someone's figured out what you're worth to your betters and they've got a plan to wring as much out of you as possible. You are another animal on their farm, there to have resources extracted from you. You will be fed a steady diet of junk news, commercials, and other misinfo to keep you as stupid as possible and as productive as possible. Your "elected representatives" are there to make you think your concerns are being heard and addressed, your police are there to make you think you're being protected, but it is all an illusion. The representatives do not serve you, they serve whoever cuts them the biggest checks - and that isn't you. The police have no duty whatsoever to protect you, they're there to make sure you don't become terribly inconvenient for your betters' plans. You are free only to mill about in your designated pen, to consume your designated media, to indulge in whatever designated vices are allowed to you, and even if you break out of your pen where will you go? To what corner of the earth will you flee? Where can you possibly hope to escape the eyes of countries with networks of satellites capable of reading license plates from low earth orbit? Where can you possibly hope to go that none of these countries' bullyboys can't find you and bring you to heel? You can flee from one pen to another, a new pen with new rules and new masters, but you will never be free. Your predecessors traded that away for comfort, and got what they deserved.
 
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People devalue their labor markets, flooding the lower and middle tier ends with cheap easily replaceable labor then complain about low and stagnant wages. In places where the industries are already moving towards an automation/technician style labor force.

You need to separate "they" into groups. There are dumb people, there are people who are trapped by dumb people in the crowd, there are few that actually benefit.

I and my friends never bought cheap Chink tools, but we are drowned in the sea of dumbassery who can't tell cheap shit from quality. Buy once, cry once. Now it's almost impossible to fnd good quality tools as most brands succumb to the trend of cost cutting and temporary gain for the bottom line.

Same is with labor, who was the biggest advocate that we need to expand HB1 visas to bring in lower labor. Sure as fuck it wasn't US labor, it was bigger businesses with enough lobby power to get this shit happen.

You don't have too many people, peons, who can look far enough into the future and make long term decisions. Population is getting dumber and ways to manipulate them are made more efficient. It's slavery in all but name.
 
You need to separate "they" into groups. There are dumb people, there are people who are trapped by dumb people in the crowd, there are few that actually benefit.

I and my friends never bought cheap Chink tools, but we are drowned in the sea of dumbassery who can't tell cheap shit from quality. Buy once, cry once. Now it's almost impossible to fnd good quality tools as most brands succumb to the trend of cost cutting and temporary gain for the bottom line.

Same is with labor, who was the biggest advocate that we need to expand HB1 visas to bring in lower labor. Sure as fuck it wasn't US labor, it was bigger businesses with enough lobby power to get this shit happen.

You don't have too many people, peons, who can look far enough into the future and make long term decisions. Population is getting dumber and ways to manipulate them are made more efficient. It's slavery in all but name.

Fair enough. I mentioned big business, and didn't make a distinction. I genuinely feel for the average middle class tradesman in the US, mainly because it's your working middle classes that are the civic lifeblood of the nation. Not the wealthy and not the poor. Cheap labor has really hit them hard, especially in most of the border states, and yeah finding quality tool crafts is difficult. It's the same for parts of Europe where the industry was gutted.
 
The importation of African slaves was one of the first of many bad decisions made on the North American continent, followed by allowing people to vote in the first place, letting more and more people vote, and letting the country be ruled by Episcopalians instead of the Lutheran Church.
 
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